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April 23, 2015

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I think that, rather than calling him a purveyor of the big lie, we should just note that the Bednarz mile is very different than the mile that the rest of us to use. We could figure the average backup distance at its peak and define that as a BM, for Bednarz Mile, and then we could note some important distances in BMs, such as how many BMs traffic would have to back up to equal a conventional mile, and we could mark that spot on Marion Street, and we could also mark the Bednarz Mile point on Marion and note what fraction of a conventional it is as well.

We could start giving the length of the Bridgasaurus Boondogglus in BMs too, just for fun.

Walker, excellent idea. It's akin to relativity theory, where time and space vary according to the observer.

In this case, they vary during rush hours (or rush minutes) depending on how much an elected official kowtows to the Sprawl Lobby, the Chamber of Commerce, and other special interests in regard to spending half a billion dollars on an unneeded Third Bridge.

Along that line (sort of), this is a comment I just left on my Strange Up Salem posting about this issue:
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We've got to remember that there are slowdowns all over Salem during the rush hours. Or, rush minutes. I find that far south Commercial is slowed. Kuebler is slowed. Heading north into downtown on Liberty is slowed.

Nobody is talking about building new roads because these and other streets have some slowdowns during certain times of the day. Plus, as others have noted, and I've been told by Third Bridge consultants, the problems with crossing the river at certain times of the day are the approaches, not the two current bridges.

Fixing the approaches would cost way less than building a new bridge, as would adding a lane or two to the current bridges. There simply is no good reason to spend half a billion dollars on a Third Bridge. None at all.

I'll go for number 3, the Chamber of Commerce implant.

Why do they want to build a new bridge so badly when it is not needed?

My guess is that it is at the behest of developers and the chamber of commerce, who want to cash in on all of that undeveloped land north of West Salem.

This land becomes much much more attractive if people living there do not have to backtrack all the way south through West Salem to cross the bridge to get to I-5, or go through downtown to get to big box stores in North Salem/Keiser.

It just seems like this new bridge wont do much (if anything) for people living in Salem now, but they will get the "privilege" of paying for it.

Salemander, great analysis. You're absolutely right. The Third Bridge is a way for vehicles to bypass Salem, though, as you said, Salemians will be expected to pay for much or most of it.

A bridge planner told me at a forum/meeting that a big plus of the bridge will be speeding goods from Monmouth, Independence, and thereabouts up to I-5 and thence to points north.

Likewise, trucks will be able to get to the coast more quickly with a bridge that begins close to the end of the Salem Parkway.

So the argument that the bridge is needed to alleviate local rush hour congestion is a scam, as is the Bridge That Should Go Nowhere itself.

What person working downtown and living in West Salem will want to drive quite a ways north, then take a long bridge that leaves them still north of Wallace Road, instead of taking the current bridges? Which are fine, since it is the approaches that cause congestion.

We already have three bridges! I jog across bridge #3 all the time. Now a third vehicle bridge is what they are after. That being said, I think the bridge would be great for: Transport businesses that carry goods from north of west Salem to I-5 corridor, People living in Polk County needing to access Keizer station, people in a hurry that hate waiting in traffic for 5 whole minutes to cross the bridge out of/into West Salem, and of course developers of the land north of West Salem hoping for a shorter commute to Salem proper. In short, it seems that the primary beneficiaries of the proposed bridge are not the citizens of Salem. Have them draw up a proposal where Polk and Marion county pay for most of it, and charge a toll for people to use it. That way, the people deriving benefit from said bridge will be paying for it, not the people of Salem who do not particularly need or want to pay for it. My 2 cents.

Jay, right on!

You've seen through the duplicity of the Third Bridge advocates. They think Salemians are too stupid to recognize their ruse -- passing off a regional bridge as an (unneeded) local bridge, but citizens won't fall for this.

"You pay, others will benefit" isn't a great selling point for the Third Bridge.

But like you said, this is exactly what the Salem Mayor, City Council majority (aside from Tom Andersen) and other elected officials bought and paid for by special interest money are trying to foist on us.

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