OK, we don't actually have a Nissan Leaf or Mitsubishi i yet. But I've finally been able to reserve a place in line to buy one of these cool electric cars, something that wasn't possible until recently.
While we were on a Maui vacation last month I read in the Honolulu paper about how Hawaii was going to be one of the first states where the Mitsubishi i MiEV would be introduced.
(This car is just called the "i," a strike against it. Anything that costs almost $30,000 should have more than one letter in its name. Plus, "i" doesn't sound green. And doesn't Apple control every use of a lower case "i" when it comes to selling a high tech product?)
Wondering what the other early introduction states would be, I leaped online and learned that California, Oregon, Washington, and Hawaii (a.k.a. the environmentally with-it states) would see the Mitsubishi i in early 2012.
Further, that it was possible to reserve one of the cars via a refundable $299 deposit. I did just that from our Maui condo's patio, having learned my lesson when I looked into the availability of the Chevrolet Volt and Nissan Leaf a few months ago.
The web sites of both car manufacturers basically told me tough luck.
They'd taken orders for all the Volts and Leafs they could sell for a while and said that later in 2011 prospective buyers would be graced with the opportunity to ask permission to fork out money for a car.
I found this irritating.
I sent emails to both Chevrolet and Nissan asking how serious they were about entering the electric (or quasi-electric, in the case of the Volt) car market, since they didn't seem like they wanted to make it easy for Prius owners like my wife and me to move up to a higher level of greenness.
So when I saw that Mitsubishi was inviting people to reserve a car now, I figured it made sense to make a $299 PayPal payment just in case the i (really Mitsubishi, you need a better name) turned out to be a winner.
I'm not convinced that an electric car is right for us.
But since we're a three car family now, after a Mini Cooper S entered my life and we kept our Toyota hybrids (Prius and Highlander), I figured that if we traded the Prius for an i or Leaf, short trips could be made on electricity and longer ones with our two gas guzzlers -- even if my wife and I needed to each separately drive over the 80-100 mile electric car range.
That's an optimistic range, by the way, from what I've been reading in various reviews. It assumes driving at a fairly low speed on level ground without much use of the heater or air conditioner.
But we live almost six miles from the Salem city limits, with some pretty large hills between us and our in-town errands. So before we buy an electric car, I'll need to do some testing to see how much range we've got at our disposal once we get into Salem (regenerative braking on downhill parts of Liberty Road could help with recharging).
I like the looks of the Mitsubishi i, but it's a bit too cute for my taste. And at first web site glance my wife thought it looked too small for her needs. The 80 mile claimed range also wasn't as appealing as the Nissan Leaf's supposed 100 mile range.
Thus I was thrilled to see an email from Nissan pop up in my inbox this morning. It was an invitation to reserve and order a Leaf that was being offered to "limited registered customers in launch markets." (I'd registered after learning that I couldn't reserve a Leaf earlier this year.)
Within a few minutes another fully refundable $99 had been added to our VISA balance. It's interesting that even though the Nissan Leaf is more expensive than the Mitsubishi i, the reservation charge is one-third as much.
That's one nice thing about the Leaf. The longer range is another thing. All in all, the Leaf looks like a more appealing electric car than the i -- albeit quite a bit pricier. Next we'll get a quote from a local dealer and hopefully be able to test drive a Leaf.
I really like the idea of an electric car. Not having to worry about the price of gas, the availability of Middle Eastern oil, or how we're contributing to global warming even with our two hybrid vehicles is deeply appealing.
Along with the current Oregon/federal tax credit incentives (I believe these are $7,500 federal and $750 Oregon.) These bring the price of a Leaf or i down to the merely "wildly high" range. We'd almost certainly lease an electric car, of course, given how quickly the technology likely will advance during the next few years.
So, the electric adventure begins. Until we actually drive a Leaf or i we can't be sure that one will meet our rural south Salem driving needs. But there's a good chance that we'll be filling up on Portland General Electric "fuel" before too long.
I'm saving up for a Jag C-X75:
http://www.jaguar.com/gl/en/#/about_jaguar/project_c-x75/
It's a nip at £700,000, but it's the coolest way to go green.
Posted by: Suzanne Foxton | May 11, 2011 at 12:13 AM
Oh Brian, Brian, Brian......there is nothing "green" about electric cars. The electricity to power these vehicles will be made with fossil fuels for the next hundred years. Economies of scale will translate into slightly lower operating costs over time, but the initial outlay of money to buy the electric vehicles is for pollution already produced in the manufacture of the vehicles themselves. To use a worn-out and boring cliche: we are rearranging the deck chairs on the Titanic.
But have fun with your overgrown golf cart when you eventually receive it. No harm in that!
Posted by: Willie R | May 11, 2011 at 07:39 AM
Willie R, most electricity in the Pacific Northwest comes from renewable hydropower. We've also got an increasing number of wind turbines spinning away. Electricity is cheap compared to the rest of the country.
You're right -- a lot of energy goes into making an electric car. But they're the wave (electromagnetic) of the future. Evolution isn't making any more oil, or at least not quickly enough to be of use to us humans.
Also, I'm old enough to clearly remember the gas lines of the 1970s, when happiness was a full tank. Briefly, until you needed to fill up again. I see a good chance that something crazy will happen again in the middle East that'll disrupt our dependence on foreign oil, which I think is even higher now than it was in the '70s.
Posted by: Blogger Brian | May 11, 2011 at 09:03 AM
Hi Brian,
It is so cool that you are getting an EV. I am getting a Leaf (scheduled to arrive on the 23rd of this month). We have solar panels on our house so it will be truly zero emission and energy independent.
If you want to keep up with the electric vehicle going-ons in Oregon, check out the Oregon Electric Vehicle Association. The website is http://oeva.org/ and they are on facebook and twitter too.
Posted by: Patrick | May 11, 2011 at 09:23 PM
I agree with everything you say about EV's Brian. They are the wave of the future, and they do make a lot of sense in ways that are not completely obvious - that's why they are being produced in the first place!
My only point is that enthusiasm for electric vehicles and hybrids and hydrogen fuel cells and the like needs to be tempered with an awareness that fossil fuel consumption will not, under any circumstances, stop until the supply is exhausted.
The production of Patrick's Leaf has already caused the equivalent greenhouse gas emissions into the atmosphere that would have come out of the Leaf's non-existent tailpipe over the life of the vehicle. Ditto with the solar panels, which will never be able to produce enough electricity to charge the Leaf.
The two words "energy independence" may be the ultimate oxymoron.
Posted by: Willie R | May 12, 2011 at 12:04 PM
Willie R. You are wrong. The solar panels that I have had on my house since 2007 produce 3.8MWh per year. That is enough to drive 15,000 miles per year. I will only drive about 8,000 miles per year. So they produce nearly twice as much as I need for driving my (soon to be here) Leaf.
As for the greenhouse gases from the production of my EV, you are wrong again. The carbon footprint from making a Leaf is only about 15% more than a similar sized gas car. For a gas car about 80% of its greenhouse gases come from the fuel it burns and 20% from its production. So even counting the production costs and using today's grid power, an EV has a much smaller carbon footprint.
As for your final point "fossil fuel consumption will not ... stop until the supply is exhausted", I sure hope you are wrong about that one too. The stone age did not end because we ran out of rocks. We can do better than digging stuff up just to burn it.
Posted by: Patrick | May 13, 2011 at 10:07 PM
Patrick, I'm curious... did you drive a Leaf before you bought yours? A few days ago I talked with a salesman at Salem Nissan. He told me that Nissan isn't allocating any cars to dealers that could be used for test drives. Supposedly Nissan wants all available cars going to customers.
The salesman didn't like that policy. I told him that I didn't either. I'm not going to spend $30,000 or so on a car that I've never seen, and never driven. He sympathized, and offered to ask someone local who already has a Leaf if he'd be willing to show us his. So far I haven't heard from the Leaf owner; hopefully I will.
I realize that very early adopters are so enthusiastic, they will buy an electric car sight-unseen and undriven. But my wife and I are potentially part of the next wave -- long time Prius owners (we've on our second Prius) who are interested in going electric but have some questions that need resolving before we're ready to jump into the Leaf (or other electric car) buying pool.
Posted by: Blogger Brian | May 13, 2011 at 10:29 PM
Yes, my wife and I both test drove one at the Leaf tour event when they stopped in Hillsboro last November and I just had one for a week that we got when I dropped my Prius off for some body work. The shop I took it to is using Leafs for their loaner cars. Here is a story about that body shop: http://goo.gl/XuFI2
I don't know if you have any cars that need any work or paint, but if you do, that is one idea.
Posted by: Patrick | May 13, 2011 at 10:44 PM
Patrick - I knew exactly how you would respond to my comments - that is why I made the comments in the first place.
I hope that you enjoy your Leaf when it finally arrives. Everything balances out in the end.
Posted by: Willie R | May 14, 2011 at 05:03 AM
Hello, New Leaf owner here in Florida. Where I bought my Leaf. They have Leaf demo"s. All seems well, very nice driving. I charge at home using 110 outlet. It draws 12 amps and I can check the progress on my computer or look out the window at the blinking lights on the dash. I only drive 10 miles per day and I plug in when I am down to 20 miles and charge to 100 % in 14 hours. I am an old fart and I love the upgrade from the 1978 city-car. I thank Nissan for going all the way with my EV. LOVE IT--tom
Posted by: Tom I. | January 31, 2012 at 07:58 PM