The Salem (Oregon) Chamber of Commerce and a member of its Executive Committee, Mark Shipman, need to get their facts straight. People are tired of organizations, politicians, and lobbyists who will say anything to defeat a proposal that benefits the general public rather than special interests.
The Chamber opposes a citizen initiative that would increase the number of Marion County commissioners from three to five, elect them by district, and change the county charter to "home rule."
(For more info, check out Have a Voice Everyone.)
After reading a list of the Chamber's objections to Marion County Measure 24-292, which will be voted on in May, and a commentary on the measure by Shipman that appeared in his law firm's newsletter, I'm struck by how misleading are these reasons for sticking with a "business as usual" approach to county government.
Download OfficialPositionMCCharter
Download Shipman Commentary
Fictions have to be countered with facts. Here goes...
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Fiction: Adding two county commissioners will increase costs.
Fact: The commissioners set their own salary/benefits, and hire their own staff. The current commissioners each have a high-paid personal "policy advisor" who makes more money than the commissioners do. If five commissioners tighten their budgetary belt, like almost everyone else has to these days, the cost to the taxpayer won't change when Measure 24-292 is approved. Presently the commissioners pay themselves about as much as the Governor gets, over $100,000 in salary/benefits.
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Fiction: Electing commissioners by district will reduce access to local elected officials.
Fact: Currently the three partisan commissioners are elected countywide, so each represents over 300,000 citizens. Measure 24-292 will elect five non-partisan commissioners by district, so each will represent about 60,000 citizens. Strangely, it's argued that the charter change would mean that people "will only have access to the commissioner in their own district, not the entire Board." Obviously this is untrue. Does any local elected official only talk to people in his or her own district? (If so, their closed-mindedness shows they should be voted out of office.)
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Fiction: The proposed charter violates the Oregon Constitution.
Fact: The Marion County Clerk and Marion County Legal Counsel reviewed Measure 24-292 and concluded that it meets constitutional standards. So has Bob Cannon, a local government lawyer for 30 years who is a former Marion County Counsel and currently serves on the Salem City Council. He notes that the proposed charter is modeled after the one used in Lane County, which has worked well. See page 9 of Cannon's excellent summary of reasons to vote "yes" on the charter change.
Download Cannon remarks on Marion County charter change
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Fiction: If Measure 24-292 passes, you will not see growth in Marion County for some time.
Fact: This is a ridiculous scare tactic, plain and simple. Nothing in the proposed charter changes the county's land use policies. Nor does anything in the proposed charter make it "more difficult for existing businesses to grow and flourish." These are more than fictions. They are purposeful distortions. Mark Shipman also claims that urban growth boundaries won't be expanded if the Measure passes, but there is nothing, zilch, nada in Measure 24-292 about this.
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Fiction: If Measure 24-292 passes, Marion County will need to hold a special election immediately to elect two new commissioners at a cost of $100,000 to $250,000.
Fact: Wow. Shipman really got this one wrong. The proposed Charter says in Section 12 (vii) that the new county commissioners will be elected at the next November general election. So there won't be any special election or additional costs. Shouldn't people read the Home Rule Charter before they start to criticize it?
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Bottom line: Marion County voters, don't let yourselves be taken in by the fictions being spread by opponents of Measure 24-292. It's time to change our county for the better.
For too long, special interests and career politicians have done their best (often quite successfully, unfortunately) to control local government. This Measure will help make our county commissioners more accountable to citizens by electing them by district.
It also will improve county decision-making, since currently it takes only two people of a like-mind to control the Board of Commissioners.
With five commissioners -- which is the norm in Oregon's more populous counties -- there will be more deliberative give and take before policies are decided on, which is what Marion County needs.
In May vote YES on Measure 24-292.
Good analysis. I think we need to stress that these are non-partisan positions. If you are fed up with the failure of partisan officials to do the public's work, this alone should be reason to vote for the charter.
Posted by: Red Cloud | March 17, 2010 at 06:24 PM
Right on! And on top of this is the fact that the opposition assertion that passing home rule charter would result in less representation for rural parts of the County overlooks a critical fact: they are under-represented now!
Posted by: Ben Williams | March 22, 2010 at 09:07 PM
Let us not fix what isn’t broke. In my lifetime home rule charters have been referred to Marion County voters three times and all three times it was defeated. The creators of measure 24-292 have brought this issue to voters because of differences in opinions on land use planning.
The real issue is control. With three commissioners, each is elected by and is a representative for the entire county. Proponents of Measure 24-292 have suggested that having five commissioners instead of three will allow the board to be more “collaborative.” A glass of wine after work and private meetings behind closed doors two by two by two by two is not my idea of more “collaborative.”
You may remember this type of decision making happened with a rather large decision in Multnomah County. The decision made by this type of back door “collaborative” system required by law the issuance of marriage licenses to same-sex couples. No notice. No citizen testimony. No public meetings.
This same type home charter process has Lane County, the proponents model for success, in a lawsuit for breaking Oregon’s public meeting law. This is not how Marion County does business.
Marion County Commissioner’s office has an administrative budget of $1.9 million. Lane County Commissioner’s office has an administrative budget of$ 3.1 million. Saying that Measure 24-292 won’t cost tax payers more is a bad joke.
In a recessionary climate we need job creation and transparency in government. The last thing we need is a law that protects secrecy and encourages back room deals. We were smart enough to vote “no” the last three times this politically disguised collaborative system was proposed. Let’s make sure we are smart enough to vote “no” again.
Posted by: Concerned Citizen | April 06, 2010 at 03:15 PM
Concerned Citizen, I don't see what you're concerned about. Virtually every governmental or elected body has more than three members. The U.S. Senate has 100, the U.S. House of Representatives has 435. The Oregon Senate has 30, the Oregon House has 60. The Salem City Council also has more than three members. Three is by far the exception, not the rule.
These other bodies do just fine with "two by two" (or whatever) conversations between decision-makers. It's ridiculous to claim that only a deliberative body with a maximum of three people can make open, fair, and transparent decisions.
In the case of the commissioners, their assistants have to do the negotiating, since two commissioners can't talk to each other about an issue due to Oregon's open meeting law. So now unelected staff assistants have big roles in decisions, which is the sort of hidden government most Oregonians don't want.
Posted by: Brian Hines | April 11, 2010 at 04:49 PM
Blogger Brian:
You missed the point. When there are five commissioners, meeting two by two, can be extremely effective. When you have 30 or 60 or 100, it is not.
Going to five commissioners is a set-up for back-room deals. Right now the commissioners cannot meet without it being open to the public. Should this measure pass, then two of them can meet, and talk about whatever they want, policies included. Then, they can go to another commissioner and talk, in twos, and the public doesn't have to be informed.
Not only that, saying this form of government is "more representative" is a lie. I live in South Salem and right now, I get a say in ALL three Marion County Commissioners. If we go to five, I only get a say in ONE elected commissioner. That is LESS representation, regardless of how it's spun.
This is a bad measure.
Posted by: No On Home Rule Charter | April 19, 2010 at 10:37 AM
No, I consider that it is you, not me, who has missed the point. In any Oregon governmental body the public meeting law allows any number of members short of a quorum to get together and discuss a policy issue.
In a five member body, that allows two members to meet. In a nine member body, that allows four members to meet. Every governmental body allows this, other than an archaic three member board like Marion County has -- where the members have to hire high-paid assistants to do their getting together for them in order to avoid running afoul of the public meeting law.
The Keizertimes has endorsed Measure 24-292, offering up some great reasons for voting "Yes." Read them here:
http://keizertimes.net/?p=685
Excerpt:
"Making the ballot non-partisan will not remove the influence of party politics, nor will it transform the local political scene to more resemble Multnomah than Marion County.
What it will do is give voters more choices, a wider palette of ideas for where our county should go. County commissioners’ political sensibilities should reflect the voters in their area.
A very smart person reminded us recently, there’s no such thing as a Republican or Democratic pothole. It’s just a pothole that needs to be fixed.
To extend the metaphor, this isn’t a Democratic or Republican issue. In the end, it’s a lack of local accountability or representation, and a lack of ballot access, that needs to be fixed. It’s for that reason we support Measure 24-292."
Posted by: Brian Hines | April 19, 2010 at 10:50 AM
Back door deals will happen if the commission goes to five. It happened in Multnomah County and it is happening in Lane County (which is being sued for illegal meetings).
When has expanding government ever cost less? Never. This will cost more money, especially when they "cut" those advisory positions, then realize how much work there is, and have to hire people back. In addition, when they cut the treasurer's position, that work will have to go some place, right? Someone has to be accountable for a $300 million-plus budget. You don't just plop that down on anyone's lap.
And finally, one of the worst things about this charter is if passed, commissioners can raise taxes without voter approval. Currently, they cannot do that.
This is a bad, bad measure.
Posted by: No On Home Rule Charter | April 19, 2010 at 11:25 AM
No, it sounds like you think government is working just fine, and doesn't need any changing to make politicians more accountable to voters/taxpayers.
Well, you're welcome to your opinion. But you're in the minority. Polls show that most people are mad as hell at how government -- county, state, federal -- is kowtowing to special interests and has forgotten how to work for the people who elected them.
Measure 24-292 will allow Marion County voters to elect non-partisan commissioners by district, which will help assure that the commissioners are accountable to regular citizens rather than the Chamber of Commerce types who are leading the fight against the Measure.
Posted by: Brian Hines | April 19, 2010 at 11:38 AM
No, what this measure will do is cater to special-interest groups who have commissioners in their back pockets and allow the citizens of Marion County to get taxed even more ... without having a say.
Government is NOT working fine right now. Look at the White House. Look at Congress. Look at the Oregon Legislature. All of them think raising taxes in a down economy is a GOOD thing. Just what we need ... more government ...
Posted by: No On Home Rule Charter | April 19, 2010 at 12:05 PM
No, I guess we'll just have to agree to disagree. The voters will decide.
When you refer to special-interest groups who have commissioners in their back pockets, I assume you mean the large businesses who control the Salem Chamber of Commerce -- which is the main group opposed to this initiative.
But the Measure is trying to bring more accountability to ordinary citizens into county government. So this is why special interests like the Chamber of Commerce are opposed to it. To my mind that's a fine reason to vote for the Measure.
Since you're a believer in open government, why don't you share your real name and background, like I do? That would help me and others understand "where you're coming from," as the saying goes.
Posted by: Brian Hines | April 19, 2010 at 12:50 PM
Blogger Brian is your name and displays your background?
You keep referring to the Chamber of Commerce ... but what about the special interest groups who support the measure? League of Women Voters, Audubon Society?
This charter was brought to the voters by land-use activists. Plain and simple.
And there is no accountability in the new form of goverment ... they can meet in private, and I, as a voter, can only have a say in one of the commissioners, not all three like I currently do. Any way you try and spin it, that is less say.
Posted by: No On Home Rule Charter | April 19, 2010 at 02:11 PM
My name is Brian Hines. It's on my blog, in the left sidebar. You can visit my website and learn all about me.
Obviously you're strongly interested in Measure 24-292. Why don't you share your name and background, as I have?
Several of your comments decried the supposed secrecy that the Measure would bring to Board of Commissioners deliberations, yet you seem reluctant to be open about your own motivations for opposing the Measure.
I believe in openness and transparency. That's one of the reasons I support the Measure, since it will bring more accountability to county government.
If you feel the same way, I assume you won't mind using your real name and sharing some personal details about yourself so others who read this post will be able to know who has been having this comment conversation.
Posted by: Brian Hines | April 19, 2010 at 02:23 PM
It's not about me - it's about the charter.
There is no "supposed secrecy" - look at the Lane County lawsuit.
It's funny, but you keep saying the same things over and over ... and yet don't want to address the concerns I have brought up.
That sounds exactly like the proponents.
Posted by: No On Home Rule Charter | April 19, 2010 at 02:35 PM
Your concerns don't make sense, so how can I address them? If a child is afraid of the Boogie Man under the bed, all an adult can say is "there's no one there; your imagination is making him up."
Same applies to the untruths being spread by Dick Withnell, Mark Shipman, and other Salem Chamber of Commerce types. They're trying to scare Marion County citizens into voting "no" on the Measure because they don't have any good arguments to use against the measure.
I've debunked those boogie man myths in several posts:
http://hinessight.blogs.com/hinessight/2010/04/no-on-measure-24292-letter-is-full-of-untruths.html
http://hinessight.blogs.com/hinessight/2010/04/marion-county-charter-change-desperation-breeds-deception.html
And here's a Keizertimes editorial in favor the Measure that offers up further reasons to vote "yes."
http://keizertimes.net/?p=685
Posted by: Brian Hines | April 19, 2010 at 02:47 PM
Here, be specific (I won't hold my breath):
More representation? How is only getting to vote for one commissioner, as opposed to all of them, better for the county?
Taxation. How is allowing commissioners to tax the people of Marion County without voter approval a good thing?
How is being able to circumvent public meeting laws a good thing for Marion County and its people?
Why is it that those in favor of the measure talk about groups who endorse it, yet when a group opposes it, it's a "special interest" group? Seems hypocritical to me.
Great for the Keizer Times. I believe the paper in Woodburn came out against it, didn't it? Let me guess: the Keizer paper is full of "truths" because it spoke in favor of it, but the paper that spoke out against it was full of "untruths" - right?
The bottom line is more government has never, in the history of this country, or state, cost less.
Posted by: No On Home Rule Charter | April 19, 2010 at 03:54 PM
No, here's some responses:
You say: "More representation? How is only getting to vote for one commissioner, as opposed to all of them, better for the county?"
I say: This is exactly how representation works at the city (Salem), state (Oregon), and national (United States) levels. We elect people who represent us at a "district" level. I don't want every state representative to be elected statewide, just as I don't want every county commissioner to be elected countywide. You want a lot of distance between elected officals and the people they represent; I want less distance.
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You say: "Taxation. How is allowing commissioners to tax the people of Marion County without voter approval a good thing?"
I say: Show me how this can happen under the proposed Charter.
The HAVE website addresses this myth:
http://www.haveavoiceeveryone.org/web-content/pages/myth12.html
"There is nothing in the Charter that allows this (raising taxes without a vote of the people).
ORS 203.055 Referral or revenue related ordinance.
Any ordinance, adopted by a county governing body under ORS 203.035 and imposing, or providing and exemption from, taxation shall receive the approval of the electors of the county before taking effect. [1973 c.282 §6; 1975 c.736 §3]"
Why do you make stuff up? It's amazing how the opponents of the Measure are so willing to fabricate deceptive untruths. People are fed up with this sort of political game-playing.
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You say: "How is being able to circumvent public meeting laws a good thing for Marion County and its people?"
I say: This is an utter falsehood. The Charter doesn't change Oregon's public meeting law. Again, stop spreading lies.
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You say: "Why is it that those in favor of the measure talk about groups who endorse it, yet when a group opposes it, it's a "special interest" group? Seems hypocritical to me."
I say: I call the Chamber of Commerce a special interest group, because it represents the interests of a narrow subset of county residents. If you disagree, that's fine.
I'll agree, though, that every group, and every individual, has unique interests. The question is how general these are, how much they reflect the interests of the citizenry at large, versus a few.
I used to belong to the downtown Salem Rotary Club, which was open to a wide variety of people -- including business owners, who I enjoyed meeting and talking with.
But I couldn't belong to the Salem Chamber of Commerce, because it is a much narrower organization. That's why I call it a more special "special interest" than other groups with broader public representation.
Posted by: Brian Hines | April 19, 2010 at 08:22 PM