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February 10, 2008

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Democrat super delegates who ignore the will of the majority-- whichever way it goes-- can count on wrath in the election for their party. People are already disgusted with democrats for how they haven't done anything since '06 about anything they promised. If they add to this a backroom deal to give the nomination to whoever didn't win it, they will see the results in the House in November and any Senators up for election. I have been watching this too and agree with what you said-- they should keep their mouths shut for now!

Heard Hooley on OPB this morning talking about her retirement and other topics.

Turns out she's a Super Delegate who already "gave her word" to vote for Clinton unless she's "released" by the candidate. WHUH? Thanks for waiting to find out what WE wanted.
I don't know which is worse- winner-take-all or this Super Delegate nonsense.

Then again, Oregon doesn't have an open primary, so I don't get a voice anyway. ;)

-Mike

I would like to know why, Brian, Obama is your "man".

This is not intended as a challenge or to bait you, I am just interested in why people think he is "the one". What has he demonstrated that indicates he can handle the difficulties facing America? What philosophical values does he hold which you feel are better than his remaining competitors, McCain and Hillary?

He certainly is an excellent speaker, far more articulate than Bush, which I feel is a prerequisite for a national leader and the lack of this talent is part of the reason for Bush's downfall, but all I hear from Obama is glowing rhetoric about change and a new, better America. What do you believe he can accomplish that others haven't/couldn't? Why? He seems to be a nice, smart guy, but I see his following as a cult of personality rather than substance.

Why should I vote for him?

Condor, excellent questions. Here's why I strongly tilt toward Obama.

First, on "60 Minutes" last Sunday he said that a big difference between him and Clinton is that he wants to change the rules of the game, while she doesn't.

This rings true to me. I confess to nostalgia for the "change the world" optimism of the '60s. We thought that things could be different.

Not quantitatively, so to speak (more health care, more income equality), but qualitatively -- a fresh way people relate to each other.

Obama would be much better at reducing the divisions in this country between black and white, red and blue states, progressives and conservatives, and so on. That appeals to me a lot.

Further, and related to the above, it seems clear that Obama is more electable than Clinton. Moderates and independents are attracted more to him than to her. McCain will appeal to these people, in the absence of Obama. I don't want another Republican administration.

Policy wise, there isn't a whole lot of differnce between Obama and Clinton. Yes, she speaks in more detail than he does. But Obama clearly is capable of also being a policy "wonk."

On 60 Minutes he talked about this, saying that early in the campaign he was criticized for going on and on about policy details, boring people to death. Now he's being criticized for being all inspiration and no depth. Can't win.

Finally, he's simply more appealing to me than Clinton is. I like his sense of humor, his naturalness, his seeming humility. Clinton strikes me as someone who always relates through a facade, much as Bush does.

I'm tired of that. I'm ready for Obama.

"he wants to change the rules of the game, while she doesn't."....

Sounds good. Would be tough to do.

"We thought that things could be different."....

and found out otherwise.

"more health care, more income equality"....

Somebody's got to pay for it and when the government's involved, it's usually less efficient.

"Obama would be much better at reducing the divisions in this country between black and white"....

This would be a good thing. No more excuses about white oppression. The slavery thing is over..history. It doesn't play anymore. Jesse and Al would have to get another gig and quit playing the race card. Black president, black secretary of state, black defense secretary, black supreme court justice, black general, black billionaires, CEO's, doctors, judges, professors, scientists, geniuses and the list goes on. You can do more than jump, so pull yourself up by your boot-straps and make something out of your life. If they can do it, you can do it too. The American Dream is now realistically yours as well.

"Obama is more electable than Clinton."....

I think so too, but still may not have quite enough to beat McCain which is OK with me because McCain understands the fanatic islamic threat is real. I don't think Obama does. National security is most important to me and trumps everything else. Unfortunately, McCain is liberal about the border like Obama although McCain's trying to back-peddle off that stance now to gain conservatives' confidence. I'm not fooled. However, better 1-2 than 0-2 in my view.

"But Obama clearly is capable of also being a policy "wonk."....

Let's hear it, but I'm cringing.

"Now he's being criticized for being all inspiration and no depth. Can't win."...

Yes, unfortunately perception is in the hands of the media. They could give him a good shot at the office. I think they will.

"Finally, he's simply more appealing to me than Clinton is. I like his sense of humor, his naturalness, his seeming humility. Clinton strikes me as someone who always relates through a facade, much as Bush does."....

I agree, except I think Bush is misunderstood. Still, Bush blew it and now because of him even a good republican candidate will have a tougher row to hoe. McCain needs to remind Bush haters.."Hey, I'm not him."

"I'm ready for Obama."....

I'm not ready for any of them.


I'm for Obama also. McCain scares me. He's too eager to find war as a solution and seems to keep forgetting who attacked us vs who he is attacking. There should be a correlation. What I like about Obama is he is not saying he has all the answers. He's saying he would work with others to find them and apply them. He's not daddy. He's a partner leading the way. I don't want a president who has promised us the moon. I want one who's willing to work and use practical solutions to solve real problems. I think that person is Obama.

The super delegate system is a travesty to democracy. Our vote must be heard! We can not have our nominee selected for us!

I have made a protest site here:

http://www.popularprimaryvotenow.com

Please add your comments to this page. I will print them all out and hand them to the democratic national committee!

Rain--"What I like about Obama is he is not saying he has all the answers. He's saying he would work with others to find them and apply them."....

They all say that, for as long as I've been aware of presidential candidates. What Obama is saying is nothing new or original. Just the same old campaign rhetoric. All presidents have advisors, cabinets, committees and intelligence to help them make decisions. Don't be fooled. He has his ideology and will try to enact it.

Rain--"I don't want a president who has promised us the moon."....

Again, they all do that. Obama promises to change the way things work in Washington, and that is promising the moon. In fact, I think I'd bet on him delivering the moon before he delivers a change in the way things work in Washington.

Yeah, I'm a cynic, but I have good reason to be.

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