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Doing Nothing yet get the things done is essential part of any spiritual practice.More so in meditation.
its very hard to learn "doing nothing" yet doing things all the time.its paradox every individual has to solve on his/her spiritual path.

when i started ,i tried hard doing meditation, but this doing requires 'do nothing ' to succeed.
Repeating the five words is 'doing' of the mind. yet doing this thing make things complicated. when i resigned /surrender to higher power this 'doing' converts into actual doing.They cal it "sahaj" way of meditation.

only after surrendering to "let it do whatever" real spiritual benefits starts coming.

most of sant mat followers fall into this trap of doing simian,bhajan or dhyan. As long as we try to 'do', mind's unsupported layer blocks spiritual progress.

its better to "love" than 'doing'. Love doesn't require doing(Effort).When you Love,you 'Love' without any effort.

its effortless. That's why 'love' is most essential thing in sant mat philosophy.
people spend years in sant mat practice never realizing that doing nothing is the secret to progress on this spiritual path. when we get tired of this doing, only then we realize the full potential of sahaj way of doing things.

doing everything yet doing nothing.

Just close your eyes and see everything at third eye unfold. Repeat the five words and try to catch light/sound while maintaining the Love of Guru all the time.

progress is very fast this way(sahaj way) and one doesn't get bored of this mediation practice.

In a way its related to Free will. As long as we 'will', there is no free will.Underlying Script is not in our control and hence there is no free will. After surrender, we get to see "free will" as part of spiritual "free will" and one becomes part of this whole spiritual cosmos game being played in front of our eyes.


He has a point. When I reflect on the me, I find it's the same as it was when I was 6. The same flavor me, and all the books and gurus and, yes, spiritual experiences didn't change that me.

I think this is why the Dalai Lama is adamant hat enlightenment is impossible without development of bodichitta. the compassionate aspiration to attain enlightenment not just for oneself but for the benefit of all sentient beings. It’s often described as the "mind of awakening" or "heart of enlightenment," combining wisdom and altruism.

For the theistically minded, agape. Love for others. This isn't optional.

Many of us wanted to be like Shiv Dayal or Ramana Maharshi, and find contentment gazing into our 3rd eye navels. It's never going to happen. There has to be love.

Halfway through Douthat's Believe. One of the major cases he makes for institutional religionsis that they offer protection from malign entities. Demons if you will. Clearly Douthat, a Catholic, is referring here to the Catholic church and its emphasis (in some quarters) on demonology as a very real thing.

The takeaway here is that unless one is a Catholic with requisite baptism and a scapular for good measure, the universe is chock full of unseen Pazusus who prey on the dilettante unaffiliated spiritual seeker. Or Mormons. Or the housewife taking a yoga class. No St. Michael the Archangel to defend them.

Having studied this subject of demonic possession a bit, I'm disappointed in Douthat's argument. Evil does exist, but entities taking hold of someone's soul because they aren't in the correct church is the worst argument for becoming a Christian that I know of. Douthat should know that all these stories about demonic possession have fallen apart upon inquiry, such as the one that spawned the Exorcist. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Exorcism_of_Roland_Doe

That aside, there's the broader question of whether membership in a mainstream religion offers a depth of wisdom that one could hardly learn on their own.

Let's take Christianity. Aside from learning basic moral precepts and theology, I don't see what else there is to learn. If one is a Catholic, they can learn the rosary and pray it repeatedly. Perhaps even read the Bible. But there isn't much "technical" knowledge available or even necessary to further one's faith and spiritual development. The Christian does good works, keeps holy the sabbath, and is assured of salvation success if he "continues to the end." To put it a bit cynically, the path of the Christian is to daily reaffirm their belief that a miracle took place 2000 years ago.

By contrast, in Buddhism one finds a more evolved technology of spiritual development. A dissection of the cause of suffering that doesn't involve a snake and an apple, and its remedy, through techniques to effect a change of consciousness. An example of that here: https://escaping-samsara.com/ajahn-achalo-a-generous-talk-with-thai-forest-monk/

Harrison: - “...We are in need not of a new ideology but of the intention and the integrity to look directly at the structures of mind already in existence.” This just about sums it up in my opinion. I’d add, that the only thing we might need is a nudge to look into the phenomenon of mind and self; either the nudge could be a person, lines in a book or a life situation.

Harrison underlines the difficulties: - “Understanding that we cannot escape, we try to change. We try drugs. We try psychotherapy, meditation, yoga, religion. We try to become something that is free from pain.” And such escapes can be enormous fun with its association with lovely groups, psychic experiences and so forth, some of which give the feeling of ‘having arrived’.

But it’s all in the grasp of the self, the me or seeker: - “Without the grasping of the seeker, there is no solution. Without a solution, the nature of the problem fundamentally changes.” Of course, when the mind and self are seen as the useful yet basically structures maintained by thought, then their apparent importance can no longer dominate our thinking and actions.

We are maybe afraid of putting the mind/self aside, it feels scary and empty without the master called ‘me’. but as Harrison points out: - “...This emptiness does not negate the reality of thought and the cognition of thought. The world does not disappear in this emptiness, it occurs in this emptiness, and it is transformed by the recognition of this emptiness.”

'Doing Nothing' sounds good. Have ordered book to see how he talks about 'this'.

The problem with "doing nothing" as a spiritual path is, it's too much hard work.

The furtive action on this blog and comments section being a case in point.

Nobody has the time to do nothing!

@Manjit
"Nobody has the time to do nothing!"
Love this line.

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