Photos of Gurinder Singh Dhillon, the RSSB guru, with rich and political people

Below I've shared twenty photos of the guru of Radha Soami Satsang Beas, Gurinder Singh Dhillon, that were sent to me by someone who said:

Hello Brian, I want to put your attention on one matter that effects on the heart of common satsangi, the matter is Why do Baba Gurinder Singh Dhillon and his intern Baba Gill like to visit only the houses of rich and political people and get photographed with them? Whereas none of them is a follower of Radhaswami cult and most of them are corrupt, jail inmates, non vegetarian, heavy drinker. Many of them are involved in drug business and have gone to jail.

I'm sending you few of photographs of GSD with rich and privileged people who are mostly corrupted and indulged in business which are dubious in nature. Plz make an article blog on this email with your effective writing which could convey the real message to common people. When even saints and sages, Baba start jumping around to meet rich people and politicians, then understand that the power is in authority, not in God. Thanx

 

I agree that the guru's propensity to associate with the rich, famous, and well-connected is at odds with a longstanding Radha Soami Satsang Beas principle that the main purpose of human life, as exemplified by the RSSB gurus, is God-realization, with worldly pursuits being secondary.

 

It sure looks like that principle now is for RSSB disciples to follow, while Gurinder Singh Dhillon is exempt from it. The captions below each photo are from the person who shared them with me.

 

Baba Gurinder Singh Dhillon bowing before the photo of Om Parkash Chautala, former Chief Minister of Haryana State, who was arrested on charges of smuggling and spent the last years of his life in jail on corruption charges.

With chief minister of rajasthan bhajan lal sharma.

With ex minister of punjab state Anil joshi

 

With chief minister of Jharkhand state Hemant Soren

 

With governor of punjab state gulab chand kataria

With chief minister of haryana state nayab singh saini

With bollywood actor Shaheed kapoor

 

With minister of punjab aman arora and baba gurinder and apprentice baba gill paid visit minister home

 

With Abhay singh chautala , ex opposition leader of haryana state , son of ex chief minister of haryana , and grand son of deputy prime minister of india Devi lal 

With Ashwani kumar chopra , owner and chief editor of oldest and leading newspaper of punjab state Punjab Kesari

 

With Ex chief minister of jammu and kashmir Farooq abdullah and with current chief minister of state jammu and kashmir Umar abdullah and both are known for non vegetarian

With ex minister of punjab state Rana gurmit singh sodhi 

 

With ex minister of punjab sunil jakhar and current head of BJP party in punjab 

Visiting home of minister of punjab aman arora's house

 

With ex minister of punjab state bikram singh majithia, grand son in law of maharaj charan singh, who spent time in jail in charges of drug rackets and drug trafficking and give shelters to drug mafia of punjab

 

Attending the party of ex deputy chief minister of Punjab's daughter wedding

Visiting house of minister of punjab aman arora

 

Doing Orthodox hindu rituals Agni prajvalit at the moment of visiting home of punjab minister with intern baba gill

 

With ex minister of punjab pratap singh bajwa

 

With bollywood actress, model  shehnaz kaur gill and her family

 

I'll also share a photo that I found, as I was curious about whether Gurinder Singh Dhillon had ever met with the prime minister of India, Narendra Modi. Turns out that he did.

 

Comments

[Donald]

It makes the senile sage look lofty.

[sant64]

"Another notable controversy involving Om Parkash Chautala was his detention in 1978 at the Delhi airport for allegedly smuggling a large number of wristwatches into the country."

Nothing wrong with that. Satsangis did the same for Charan Singh.

This is what Grok has to say on the question of Gurinder's contact with political leaders:

Gurinder Singh Dhillon, who succeeded him in 1990, brought a different flavor to the role. Born in 1954 into a Punjab family already steeped in RSSB traditions, he was educated at Lawrence School, Sanawar, and Panjab University, Chandigarh, and worked in Spain before taking on the mantle. Under his leadership, RSSB has expanded further, with centers in over 90 countries and a following estimated in the millions. Unlike Charan Singh, Gurinder has faced a more complex modern landscape—globalization, media scrutiny, and Punjab’s volatile political scene. His tenure has also been marked by personal and organizational controversies, which might fuel perceptions of a “different path.”

On the question of politicians: Gurinder Singh doesn’t seem to have actively sought out political engagement as a core part of his mission, but his prominence and the Dera’s influence in Punjab have made him a magnet for political figures. Punjab’s deras—spiritual communities like RSSB—command massive followings, often translating into vote banks, so politicians naturally gravitate toward them, especially during elections. High-profile visits to the Dera in Beas have included figures like Prime Minister Narendra Modi, who reportedly met Gurinder in 2014, and Home Minister Amit Shah, who visited a massive COVID-19 care facility set up by RSSB in Delhi in 2020. Senior BJP leader L.K. Advani, as well as Congress leaders Sonia and Rahul Gandhi, have also been noted as occasional visitors to Beas or to Gurinder’s Delhi satsangs. These interactions, however, appear more opportunistic on the politicians’ part—seeking blessings or visibility—than evidence of Gurinder spending “undue time” with them.

RSSB’s official stance remains apolitical. Gurinder, like his predecessors, doesn’t endorse candidates or parties, and the organization frames itself as focused solely on spiritual growth. But his visibility has grown compared to Charan Singh’s era, partly due to the Dera’s scale—housing thousands, running charitable projects—and partly due to his own profile. Critics point to his Z-Plus security cover, granted by the Punjab government, as a sign of political closeness, though that could equally reflect his safety needs given Punjab’s history of unrest and his following’s size.
Has he taken a different path? Yes, in style and context. Charan Singh operated in a quieter, less connected world, while Gurinder navigates a media-saturated, politically charged one. His personal life—tied to financial scandals involving the Singh brothers (Malvinder and Shivinder) and their business empire—has also drawn scrutiny, contrasting with Charan Singh’s unblemished simplicity. The Singh brothers, once followers, loaned billions to Gurinder’s family, sparking legal battles and allegations of influence, though he’s not been convicted of wrongdoing. This saga, unfolding in the 2010s, thrust him into secular headlines in a way Charan Singh never was.
“Undue time” with politicians, though? There’s no hard evidence he’s prioritizing them over his spiritual duties. Satsangs remain his mainstay—delivered regularly at Beas and abroad—while political visits seem incidental, not orchestrated. Still, the perception of a shift exists: Gurinder’s era feels less cloistered, more entangled with the world, whether by choice or circumstance. Charan Singh’s path was monastic; Gurinder’s, willingly or not, is more public-facing. Whether that’s “undue” depends on how you weigh spiritual purity against modern realities. What do you think—does this visibility cross a line for you?

[um]

Did he and his organisation changed the world
or
the world changed and he and his organisation with it?

Would the anybody have seen these pictures and known about the events before the globalisation of data?

Is his association with the elite the first and only time i9n history that a guru lived in close contact with the ruling class?

Did his predecessor, by many seen as an example, have no contact with the ruling class, royal families etc etc?

Those that go to church, mosque and temple to pray for the welfare of themselves, their near and dear and the world at large, what have they to do with the possible luixury, corruption and god nows what crimes, of those that make it possible that they have a place to pray?

IF ...IF ...there is a god, would he not listen to the lament of an pious soul BECAUSE of the misbehaviour of the clergy?

Jus for one moment, look into the mirror and ask yourself WHY am I so interested in making somebody else seen in the way I intend!
Just for your own sake, just once forget about him and face yourself, your own intentions and do not hide behind something outside yourself.
WHY did you asked these pictures to be published?
What is in in it for YOU ..for YOU alone.

I do not need that answer, nor is there any necessity to answer it in public ... just ask your self, about your own motivation, be resposible to yourself.

[um]

@ Sant64

If I put together your message and mine, I am simple reminded of something I came to understand decades ago ... that those that address gurus and use the word "MY" before it and the "I am" before the word satsangi do whatever they can to transform what is not theirs to their liking.

Not so strange, psychological seen, as humans are married with their wishes, their desires, and couple with the conditioned idea that everything originates outside them ...to begin with their food, offered to them by their mother....and later ... by learning language and being educated in order to participate in something outside themselves.

As in real marriage they make their partner responsible for delivering what they want and if it is not according their liking they start to fight and eventually divorce.

Now listen to the questions asked at interviews, the content of the discussions her ... they all center around the idea that the guru does not function according their perception, liking, desires, expectations etc

The guru and the organisation shoul be there for ..THEM

Hahahaha ..the try all sorts of trics to emotionally and intellectually manipulate him ... in vain ...as they are realy.... FREE ..F R E E ...If anybody of you think that he can psychotically be manipulates as they did at home, their family, or their friend or the their colleagues at work they have understood nothing ..matbe due to lack of drinking enough coffee.

Hahahaha you cannot manipulate him as your partner .. he is immune
and .. you can understand if you only think for a moment but that is not what you want as you are married to your desires.

Looking at them, interacting with the audience and in other ways of communication, is a real feast of human behavior

BEFORE ..you ever think of spirituality, think of human behavior first as they too wear the human cloth,

[um]

AND ..for good order, i have to add:

What I wrote has NOTHING, but realy NOTHING to do with them being guru's or not and what gurudom is all about, spiritual seen ...NOTHING ...and what I wrote is solely related to the psychology of man..

If you accept to sit on that throne, in order to survive mentally, you HAVE to set yourself ..mentally FREE ..and yes, some are better in it than others and yes some are more gracious, charismatic than others ..but that has nothing to do with spirituality.

THAT cannot be figured out based upon their behaviour.

[Human]

Baba Ji often says in his satsang and in response to questions that everyone is equal for him, but this is not reflections by his claim. On one hand, Baba Ji gets his photographs taken with rich and influential people, on the other hand, common satsangis are prohibited from clicking photographs of Baba Ji. If they try to do so, their cameras are snatched away and they are humiliated. Getting a photograph taken with Baba Ji is a distant dream for a common satsangi; it is like getting a photograph taken with Modi for a poor Indian. But if you are rich and in power, Baba Ji will come to your home to get a photograph taken with you.

[um]

@ Human

Why would you love to be photographed with him and/or have yourself made one?

[Human]

@um
Why is it necessary for you to reply to every comment?

[Ram Singh]

G. D. S. (Gurinder Derangement Syndrome) Ha! ha! ha!

T. D. S. (Trump Derangement Syndrome)

One of my mentors -- a woman saint -- used to say: " Some people are SO good, 'they're good for nothing'."

I would rather spend my life among sinners than the moral gatekeepers that think they are better than others... You Are Not... but keep it up... your time will come...and it won't be pleasant!

Small petty little people they are!

PS: Nice post um

Ram Singh

[Ram Singh]

I will say that I like the company of ordinary people, over the rich and connected.

That said the "Guru" has to go through his karma just like anyone else...
including interacting with certain people.

Many of them are probably Spiritual seekers.

Being rich or famous does not disqualify one from walking on the spiritual path.

Ram Singh

[In Search of]

How about a picture of GSD hugging a poor satsangi follower invited into his palatial home for tea?
Or photos of genuine conversations occurring with his followers? Even the Pope touches and converses with his followers.
I see this increased exposure in meeting with these highly political and public personalities, including an audience with the Pope, as an effort to project mainstream legitimacy and relevance in a social media obsessed society.
Unless you actually go to India to sit in satsang, you'll never hear GSD giving a discourse. Q&A sessions are all you'll ever get outside of India. An hour and a half of stupid questions that don't get answered with any kind of canned response. If you're lucky, you'll hear a couple of well articulated questions and hopefully a decent response.
Do your meditation and ignore the dog and pony show.

[Karim W. Rahmaan]

"Plz make an article blog on this email with your effective writing which could convey the real message to common people. When even saints and sages, Baba start jumping around to meet rich people and politicians, then understand that the power is in authority, not in God."

There's an explanation for this!

I thought I made it clear before;
King David, and King Solomon were both men of God. So it's not the wealth which makes one evil, it's what one does to accumulate or liquidate it. By investing in shares of a company, then selling. Charan said that wasn't the actual dealings of say a Meat Company. Because the investors don't run the business. Or chop up the hot dogs. So karma for a paper instrument carries much less karmic debt.

And as I read the reports, Baba Ki was supposed to make much more off that investment. So, he took a loss in all actually. And wasn't his wife from a prominent family, so why blame Gurinder Singh just for keeping up with familial get togethers, funerals, or other community duty or obligation?

I bet it's ok for you to have social gatherings, but my Guru HAS to be some traveling vagabond, or Acetic with only a diaper on for you to accept it.

Get off your own horses, no?

[Kranvir]

I challenge the RSSB sangat for a moment to step out of their feelings and look at the pictures and think logically and what you can see right infront of you in the pictures above - you have to completely remove all bias. What you will see is just a fat old man with a turban trying to be bigger than he is. I see a man mentally ill, trying hard to suck up to so called important people to inflate his own soulless empty ego and deflect peoples attention away from what gurinder really is - which is a nobody. He is desperate, shifty and trying to hide his true nature from the public - something which must be equal and opposite to the image he likes others to perceive. The reality is that he is the pure essence of evil. I see gurinder running away from the reality of what he is with shame and embarrassment , desperately trying to re-engineer his image with what ever and who ever just happens to be around or comes in his muddled up confused mind. Hence pictures with drug traffickers, murderers and crooks. From the pictures gurinder very quickly prostitutes himself out to any religion, for self gain. I would like to refer to his embarrassing visit to the pope and pictures and videos of him kissing the popes hand - the real mafia boss of beas crooks. Wake up sangat , gurinder is kaal in human form, and he has you in a trap where he controls your feelings and perceptions - you believe everything this fraudster crook says, yet you ignore your parents. This is why you flock to his deras and stare at him while he talks "nothings" on stage and you inflate his own ego. Only kaal (gurinder and co) wants himself to be above god and wants to destroy god. He is extremely jealous of him. But Gurinder you can run, but cannot hide from god as it's game over. Your karma will be served.

[All Saint]

Investing in shares, wife being related to a prominent family, it is not something that you get a notice from Delhi High Court and you file a false affidavit.

In Indian saint society, a saint's participation in social gatherings is similar to a Supreme Court judge's participation in political gatherings. And this conduct is considered contrary to the dignity of his position.

How would you see it if a Supreme Court judge attends a family function of a corrupt politician with whom he has no family relation.

[Jimmy]

Jurgen Ziewe has a new video out based on his experiences.

[Socialist]

Considering the poverty and helplessness of Indians, such display of magnificence by a saint, very well highlights the spiritual and mental state of Indian Baba's.

[Karim W. Rahmaan]

"..In Indian saint society, a saint's participation in social gatherings is similar to a Supreme Court judge's participation in political gatherings. And this conduct is considered contrary to the dignity of his position.

How would you see it if a Supreme Court judge attends a family function of a corrupt politician with whom he has no family relation."

Posted by: All Saint | February 24, 2025 at 05:37 PM

Ram Ram,

Usually in America, "All Cellphones Off in a Courtroom". I think SAME if you read Spiritual Perspectives, or want to learn anything about Charan Maharaj Ji's teachings. Like my own father used to tell me; turn off the TV, no talking to friends, nor any outdoor play until 1st you finish your homework & chores.

Hahaha, sometimes I wonder if you guys ever got the paddle? Your petty accusations and disrespect would have got you far worse in my household. Can't take a picture, hell no. Not while you're to be studying on Spiritual Work?

Must be kidding, kid. Let's hope The Father isn't looking down from Heaven, Ram forgive us!

[Trez]

A photo says a thousand words, but these photographs say all you need to ever know
about Gurinder Singh Dhillon

Being with these high and mighty people shows us Gurinder is all about filling his ego up and not being humble and meek like a real God man should be.

Even as A Satsangi you should now Open your closed eyes and digest the ugly truth that is Gurinder Singh Dhilion

Disgusting and revolting the way Gurinder lives a shameful way of life which these photographs show us all what he really is, and not the lies he plays out on stage

He is a perfect example of a dogy Baba who is living a dishonest life and enjoying the money and lifestyle of a sold out Baba.
Who handed himself over to the Devil for his worlds lavish livings. Soldout $$$$$$$$

God would never go near such a horrendous and horrible person who's motive is dishonesty and deception against humanity.

No shame No morals No ethics
Sums up Gurinders life as he approaches retirement which is something never to be proud off

Such a disgraceful individual who is such a Coward and Liar who will be Punished endlessly by God for eternity

Thank God his Will , WIll be done!

[um]

@ Trez

These pictures presented here I was already wondering where your and Kranvir's reaction would remain. ...hahaha .. but there it is.

anyway

Trez ... FYI .. there is no God, not even your god, that cares about what humans are doing, not even those that point the way to him.

[um]

and trez ..what goes in and out your mouth is only affection YOU .. in case you should not know

Nothing wrong with junk food ..as long as you do not eat it. The same is with what gets out you ... if it is junk ... it will affect you and nobody else.

A wise men once said to me that if you would realize what anger does to the body you would never do it again.. Same is with all other negative emotions etc.

[um]

Trez for you and all like you:

If an person stands in a pillory on the central market ...the public media ....and is accused of this or that crime ... NOBODY is forced to come to that "market" to shout and yell at him.

Those who do are responsible for what they do ..THEIR leaving THEIR house , THEY going to the market , THEY yelling abusive language.

They need no, tthey are not asked, they are not forced ... THEY chose to do so for their own reasons, reasons they cannot justify with whatever crime was conducted..

And If you believe in Karma just sit down and think what the sages in India had to say about.

[Brian Hines]

um, I can't help but notice that you like to criticize commenters when they criticize someone else, like the RSSB guru. Don't you recognize your own hypocrisy? To paraphrase your previous comment addressed to Trez "and all like you," NOBODY is forced to shout and yell at them. Yet you do shout and yell at other commenters.

Maybe you should look in the mirror and realize that the advice you love to give others applies equally to you. But the way I see it, that advice doesn't make sense, neither for yourself nor for anyone else. It is natural to want to discuss subjects in an open manner where some people disagree with each other and some people agree with each other.

I don't read all of your comments, but my impression is that you are quite judgmental. Worse, you often tell other commenters, either directly or indirectly, that they shouldn't be expressing an opinion on certain subjects, even though you love to express your own opinion in the many comments you share.

[All Saint]

Can't take a picture, hell no. Not while you're to be studying on Spiritual Work?

Must be kidding, kid. Let's hope The Father isn't looking down from Heaven, Ram forgive us!

Posted by: Karim W. Rahmaan

salaam vaalekum,
it seems that all these pictures of GSD are with those people who have completed their studies or spiritual work. The sky above has stars and planets, not heaven, you did not know this even while living in America "uncle".

[Socialist]

The luxury life of Baba's and preaches to give up worldly desires, are well known.

[um]

@ Brian

Ach Brian .. in older days I would call your answer an "double bind",

[um]

I don't read all of your comments Brian,
but my impression is that you are quite judgmental.
Worse, you often tell commenters, either directly or indirectly, that they shouldn't be expressing an opinion on certain subjects, even though you love to express your own opinion in the many blogposts you share. and you have no problem in selectively delete their message.in order to silence them

You see brian how simple it is.

The question is who needs who for what ... hahaha

[NGO]

You can defeat 40 scholars with one fact but you cannot defeat one fool with 40 facts.

[Kranvir]

I can remember many years ago, gurinder was very camera shy. No one was allowed to take any pictures. Still to this day you are not allowed to record gurinder barking nothings on stage. The question was why was he hiding then ? And why didn't he want his words recorded? No photos because he did not want to draw attention to his criminal life style - indirectly involved in fraud , money laundering , exploiting the opposite sex , and even murders. But now that he has realised that he has been exposed as a crooked bent baba, he has lost the plot and can't get enough of being in the line light - the egotistical baba wanna be world famous baba.

[Karim W. Rahmaan]

"..seems that all these pictures of GSD are with those people who have completed their studies or spiritual work.."

Posted by: All Saint | February 25, 2025 at 09:38 PM

Dunno, working on my own but I did meet Ronald Reagan, but does it make me a corrupt politician? It was a school social event. All I wanted was my next hot pizza pocket lunch.

Many here must have met a celebrity before but what does that got to do with you or me? If they've done bad things in life doesn't make me an accomplice. And how many people in yall families may be hectically a brutish lout, or dysfunctional? Or possibly you're the most violent of your bunch. But until the cops can piece together your serial snuff outs, you can still post here online.

Be truthful, you're using another's actions, ritual festivities, a funeral, and a marriage ceremony etc. to build a vexatious venomous vile trumped up case against Baba Ji.

[All Saint]

You should think carefully before trusting anything you hear because no one will tell you the part of the story where he himself was wrong.

India does not need religion, spirituality and Baba's, india needs bread and employment. Indians ask for bread and employment from them but they are giving them religion, spirituality and Baba's.

You cannot even buy a bicycle with the blessings of a Baba. But with the donation given by you, he buys a luxury car.

Nothing wrong to have pictures with celebrity and politician but it's obvious discrimination with privileged and common poor satsangi's. Earlier politicians used to go to Babas for blessings. Now Babas go to the houses of politicians to meet them. There is a clear reason behind this.

[Karim W. Rahmaan]

All Saint [as a truthful name],

You said,
"..Now Babas go to the houses of politicians to meet them.."

But if you carefully read the Thread above, by the Prime Minister Modi pic, if you click the link..

The TITLE of that article:

PM Modi visits Radha Soami Satsang Beas in Punjab, meets Baba Dhillon

https://www.indianarrative.com/india-news/pm-modi-visits-radha-soami-satsang-beas-in-punjab-meets-baba-dhillon-68611.html

Did you see pm Modi VISITS part?

So you're not thinking carefully just now.

[Kranvir]

Gurinder singh dhillon has created himself as a baba, in a man made circus called RSSB, and abusing his position to gain access to political leaders. He is litterally living his best life , prancing around around taking pictures with the stars, living lavishly with his fraudulent money, while his sangat suffer a misery of life trying to make ends meet. In satsangs the donkey dog dhillon has nothing to say anymore, and doesn't even give satsangs anymore - which was nothing to do with truth in the first place. This baba is nothing but a clueless clown, and now training jasdeep in the art of delusion , lies and mass manipulation without guilt or a heart. Gurinder, your days are numbered

[All Saint]

So you're not thinking carefully just now.

Posted by: Karim W. Rahmaan | February 28, 2025 at 11:49 AM

https://chandigarhmedia.com/news/23506/

You are not thinking carefully

[Trez]

Bowing down to criminals and corupt ministers whatever is Gurinder Singh Dhilion up to ?

Its the way of the back handers for Gurinder goody two shoes.

Crime pays Gurinders, a proven fact of a idiot on the loose out for Power and the glory of greed and name and fame, always a child hood dream of Gurinders Finally plays out for us to all laugh at and see the blind truth he has become today.

A talk of the town and an Exposed fool who played a god man and became the laughing stock of the world in a life of pictures

Shame has no Shame on the Unashameful Gurinder Singh Dhilion

[Kranvir]

For those who are brainwashed by Gurimder and still see him as God ( which is totally laughable) you easily get triggered or feel that any negative information is disrespectful and you shut it off. But take a look at those pictures and you will see what is hidden in plain site - a fraudster, a criminal, a liar , and pure ego. A desperate man, that has lost the plot.

[Neil Tessler]

Charan Singh and Succession (Understanding the context of Gurinder Singh and what is to come):
In 1990 several months prior to Charan Singh’s passing, a book titled Treasure Beyond Measure was published under his supervision, drawing heavily on his personal diaries and letters. The chapters which pertain to the events of his succession offer a compelling, poignant account of a man who had been caught in a terrible and unwanted trap that meant the absolute end of his autonomous existence.
In the first instance, it becomes very clear that Charan Singh had no idea in the lifetime of S.B. Jagat Singh, that he would be selected as his successor. He realized his position only after arriving at Dera Beas during the cremation of his predecessor, October 23, 1951, when various individuals began to approach him and bow at his feet. Soon he was directly informed that he had been named Jagat Singh’s successor in his last will. The shock all but tore him apart.
His feelings were recorded in a personal diary: “I hardly knew what to do. I never felt so bad and so ashamed as I felt then. I was feeling as if I had committed some heinous crime of my life and I had been punished with the sentence of death and people have just surrounded me to see my execution. It was terrible for me to spend three hours there. Destiny could hardly play a worse joke than this. I knew I was not what I was taken to be and yet, I could not find any way out of this (my emphasis).”
Indeed, when the will was actually read to him and he was certain of his nomination as the next Master,“he refused point blank.”
That night he attempted to escape the Dera unnoticed, but was stopped by several watchful devotees. Soon after he was taken to the family farm at Sirsa, where a profound inner struggle
Charan Singh at the ceremony marking his ascension as guru at Beas, Novermber 4, 1951.
ensued. From a personal letter:
“..I have been declared dead minus existence. Destiny has played the biggest joke with me.....I have been surrounded, captured, and imprisoned....I am at war within myself and can hardly decide anything.”
Six days later he seems reconciled to the situation, revealing his reasoning in a personal letter dated October 30:
“The news took me as the greatest surprise of my life and nature perhaps could not give me worse shock than this. As for not accepting this, there is nothing in my hand now to accept or reject it; my rejection will not make any difference for the satsangis and I would be haunted anywhere I go. I cannot go underground even, as after I come back the position will be the same.”
The crisis resolved, Charan Singh was installed in a ceremony held November 4, 1951. In his acceptance speech he referred to his anguished indecision and apologized for his absence from the Dera. He then said, “I wish to tell the sangat quite frankly that I do not make any claims whatsoever to spiritual attainments.” He reiterates that the order for his succession was communicated to him after S.B. Jagat Singh’s demise. He ends his speech with a startling comment, “...I have submitted myself to the sangat, and the sangat can do as they see fit.” This follows directly from his conclusions described in the letter of October 30 that he could not escape the sangat.
In one letter Charan Singh remarks, “Anyhow, My ‘execution’ took place on November 4th.”
Taken together these various statements are disarmingly, painfully honest. What does David Lane, a disciple of Charan Singh, make of all this in his analysis of these same facts? He notes Charan Singh’s “exceptionally modest attitude toward his position”, suggesting that this was due to his young age (he was in his mid-thirties) and “clear transference of office entitlement.” As discussed early on, Lane asserts that the spiritual authenticity of the succeeding Guru is implicit in the position he inherits. Lane concludes, “Hence, Charan Singh’s disavowal of personal inward attainment is consistent with established office authority: the more established the office, the less need there is to stress inward, spiritual development.”
Due to the strength of his position politically, it is true that he need not stress inward spiritual development, and yet there was certainly nothing compelling him to disavow them so emphatically. Given his position, it might have been more prudent to say little or nothing on the subject, as has been the precedent. Was this an expression of humility, as necessarily interpreted by Beas and promoted by Lane? That is plainly a stretch, if not a classic example of dissonance reduction. Lane’s attempt to apply Charan Singh’s words in support of his social theory of guru rhetoric here has a hollow ring. In his private diaries and letters, along with his public statements, Charan Singh is not merely under emphasizing his personal inward attainment, or showing exceptional modesty about it, rather, Charan Singh is frankly, emphatically denying having any spiritual attainments at the time of his ascension to the Beas guru gaddi. In emphasizing and rationalizing the modesty of his words while ignoring consideration of their potential significance, Lane is writing as a disciple, not as a social scientist.

Having glimpsed Charan Singh’s thoughts as expressed in his private diaries and letters, his firm disavowal “of any claims whatsoever to spiritual attainments”, at the time of his installation as guru, seems clear and straightforward. Yet no one seems prepared to take Charan Singh’s powerful statements simply as candid expressions of his actual position and then consider the implications.

How did Charan Singh eventually reconcile himself to his situation after Jagat Singh’s passing. This is based less on the orders of his predecessor, but as described in his letter of October 30, 1951, quoted above, more by the fact that he cannot escape the sangat. He emphasizes the passivity of his position when he states during his acceptance speech, “I feel like a stone idol in a temple. According to their notions of love, some bathe it with cold water, some with hot water, and some deck it in fine clothes; but still it is an idol all the same.” This is, in some respects, a striking analogy for what we see in the rationalizations of his followers. In the closing words of his speech he carries this point further, casting the final responsibility for his enthronement on the sangat and with an edge of helplessness, saying that they may “do as they see fit.” However, this turns Sant Mat teachings on its head, for it is not the sangat that makes the guru, but the guru that makes the sangat. In emphasizing the responsibility of the sangat, Charan Singh is clearly positioning himself as guru by designation, as guru by circumstance, as the new leader of a community, but not as a guru by virtue of spiritual authenticity (which he specifically disavows), however much this may be implied by his office.

Charan Singh’s reaction to his succession is given further context by a number of statements he has made about his background. Charan Singh has stated that he was unfamiliar with details of Sant Mat theory even into the early period of his guruship. Daryai Lal Kapur tells us that Charan Singh on various occasions would say, “Up till the time I was forced (my emphasis) to assume the Mastership, I never read a single Sant Mat book. For me, Huzur Maharaj Ji himself was Sant Mat.”Although referring to his succession as “forced” suggests again that Charan Singh maintained a somewhat bitter view of his position, it is also notable that up until age 35, after he assumed the gaddi, Charan Singh had not read Gurmat Sidhant, Sar Bachan, Path of the Masters, or any other of the basic literature of the Path.
One might presume that he would have had little need for literature, as he would have inculcated Sant Mat teachings through attendance at satsang from his early youth, as well as through his close association with Baba Sawan Singh. However, this apparently is not the case. Explaining why he did not conduct satsang for a number of months after becoming the Beas Guru, Charan Singh admits: “...I knew nothing about Sant Mat teachings. I never attentively heard Sardar Bahadur Ji’s or Great Master’s satsangs, though I used to enjoy them. I never even noticed which shabd (scripture) was taken. I only knew one thing--how to be steadfast on the three principles and how to meditate.”
The fact that he was unable to conduct satsang due to a scant knowledge of Sant Mat led eventually to a number of books being presented for his study by Babu Gulab Singh along with tutoring sessions. “Ultimately, I started understanding from him the various aspects of the teachings. Meanwhile, Prof. Jagmohan Lal gave me a copy of The Path of the Masters to read.... It also helped me to understand the philosophy of Sant Mat.”
We are here left to conclude that Sant Mat is a philosophy learned from books, rather then one born of spiritual realization. However, we should not be surprised by this inference. Though he was initiated in his late teens and therefore “knew…how to meditate” as he mentioned above, it seems that Charan Singh showed little disposition towards meditation practice, the means through which spiritual realization occurs.
When asked about whether he meditated in his college days, Charan Singh replies, “Let me tell you in confidence: I did it only casually, except for 60 days when I did it regularly. In 1936, when I was studying in intermediate, I was engaged but did not want to marry the girl I was engaged too. I went to Bibi Ralli and requested her to convey to the Great Master that I did not want to marry.” His request was ignored despite many entreaties on his behalf. However, “In 1941, when I was in Law College, Bibi Ralli again pleaded for me very strongly. The Master said, ‘Well, I will break the engagement if he sits regularly in bhajan (meditation) for one hour for sixty days.’” Although the usual prescription of the Sant Mat gurus was for their disciples to meditate a minimum of two and one half hours daily, in this anecdote we learn that Baba Sawan Singh induced Charan Singh to meditate one hour a day by offering him the achievement of a worldly goal.
As an intelligent and dutiful oldest grandson, Charan Singh may have been happy to participate in the religious and social life of his family and to serve his illustrious grandfather, but there is nothing in his biography to suggest a passion for the inner life. Had this been the case one could reasonably expect that he would show some interest in the literature, and if not this, perhaps in the satsangs, and if not these, at least the inner practices. However, it is plain that none of these held much interest for him prior to his ascension to the guruship at Beas. This certainly provides context for his vehement reaction to being named successor after the demise of Sardar Bahadur Jagat Singh.

Did Charan Singh then attain the perfect spiritual realization described by the Sant Mat tradition at some time during the early period of his guruship? In a talk with Western disciples in the late 1970's, Charan Singh, called Maharaji by his disciples, offered further candid insight:
“Question: Maharaji, someone asked me if you have ever battled with meditation.
Charan Singh: I battle every day.”
......A discussion on other topics then ensues in which Charan Singh mentions that at night he is locked into his room from outside, and three outer rooms are also locked, so that he is entirely locked in the house, unable to get out until someone opens the four locks each morning at about eight. The conversation then drifted back to his unsettling response to the previous question.
“Question: And you still battle with meditation?
Charan Singh: The whole night is spent in battling. With four locks, how can you do otherwise? You cannot open four locks; so whether with sleep or with meditation, you have to battle with yourself.”
Leaving aside the interesting question of why he was locked in his room every night, this is an astonishing statement that seems to contradict the most basic notions of spiritual mastery in Sant Mat or any other mystic tradition. Peace and control of the mind are essential attributes of advanced spiritual realization. If one is battling with oneself, not having attained perfect concentration, then one is yet on the way. A Master may sit with closed eyes, but it would have no trace of the struggling process the average disciple experiences, a struggle plainly revealed here.
Nor would the Master know sleep in the usual definition as fits of unconsciousness punctuated by dreams. The battles of sleep and meditation are considered basic to the phase of discipleship. In the highest states of God realization who is left to struggle, who is left to dream?

When I was, God was not;
Now that God is,
I am no more.
The dark shadows
of I-ness vanished
When I came
Face to face with the lamp.
Only the One remains,
The other has vanished-
the wave has merged in the Sea.

If the “Master” is still battling with himself, what shall be the fate of the poor disciple.
Says Kabir: I’ll sleep no more,
For God, the precious jewel,
I have found within my own body.

ON THE TRANSMISSION OF SPIRITUAL AUTHORITY
An aspect of Charan Singh’s succession that is of great significance but has received little or no discussion is the fact that he was entirely uninformed of his destined role prior to Sardar Bahadur Jagat Singh’s passing. This has now taken on something of the character of a tradition with his own succession by Gurinder Singh, who was similarly uninformed.In both these instances a legal document was the sole vehicle of succession. In other words, there is not even a suggestion of prior verbal authorization or spiritual transmission from the living guru to the successor.
It must be emphasized that it is apparent from Charan Singh’s account that not only was he uninformed by Jagat Singh, but he also had received no inward, spiritual forewarning. This has important implications for our understanding of Sant Mat and succession, particularly as framed through this specific lineage.
Is it assumed by Beas that some successors can travel all or most of their inner spiritual journey after their succession? Is it possible to be God-realized and unaware of one’s destiny? Would the truth be veiled from one who is supposed to be, or soon become, an incarnation of truth? What advantage would fall to Jagat Singh or later Charan Singh in leaving the scene without at least conveying their intentions regarding succession to the individual concerned? There could be no question of a gurumukh refusing his guru’s order. On the other hand, it would certainly be rather awkward for the previous guru to justify his designation to his successor who has little, if any, spiritual advancement.
Let us recall that first-hand spiritual experience under the direct, unmediated guidance of an advanced and hopefully fully realized living adept is the very essence of Sant Mat discipleship, if not mysticism generally. A succession based entirely on a will is at odds with this in a similar way to religious doctrines based entirely on the scriptural records of spiritual adepts of the past; both are divorced from their living roots in the living Master. Documents can be forged or falsified. They are inherently tainted by the uncertainty of second-hand evidence. If the successor has not had verbal instructions and advanced spiritual experience during the lifetime of his guru, if his entire authority is derived from a document, how then does such a succession accord with the mysticism of Sant Mat?

[All Saints]

Look how GSD and his security stopping common satsangi's from taking the pictures. Big no for poor people but love to have photographed with influence people.

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[Scientist]

Just like there are different brands of dope available in the market for physical addiction, in the same way there are different Babas and Gods available for mental addiction.