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Nice summary of breathtaking during meditation.

here is what i think about breathing in meditation.i hope you wont mind sharing these thoughts here.

in my earlier days, when i started this technique as taught by sant mat in general and radhasoami in specific, this was a huge problem.They say Surat needs to ascend from third eye to higher regions.
Breathing is exactly stopper to that.

its like moving into two different directions. either you go up but breath will stop.i thought at that time there must be someway. i tried simran, but problem with simran is one gets stuck at simran only.it gets boring very fast. it becomes difficult to do simran even for 10 minutes.

Then i thought maybe i should skip simran and do Bhajan. closing both ears certainly helped but sound never got louder.it remained near to physical senses.

in both cases breathing was problem. attention goes back to breathing as soon as you try to ascend.

Then i though lets try Dhyan directly. Maybe sound will come later.

here i got lucky. i started remembering close time spent with my Master. initially there was nothing . i was simply siting there trying to do nothing(even though mind is constantly blabbering), i took a step back,observed mind and then i completed dhyan.


continuing with my earlier comment...

Then complete darkness in front of eyes come.Master's role is over. Now is the time to expect things.if one is expecting things before this threshold, you will remain stuck there. now if you do dhyan of Master, Master the Master because if you wont, you will never reach Truth.

it doesn't mean that it is a disrespect to your Master But if you are spiritually strength-ful enough, you can do dhyan of any diety or local God. Its like open playground.

One thing is that its all illusion inside also. Not only outside is illusion inside is also illusion. But to crack outside illusion you dont need cracking up of inside illusion. if you have awakened outside (through whatever means) inside ilussion melts and all the things said about inside regions loses its meaning. You are already there.


Oxygen is to the brain what food is to the body.

@abetterway,.,you just confirmed why RSSB Masters teach their Initiates to NOT do breathing exercises, or the old Yogi Pranayama breathing exercises known as what Paramahansa Yoganada’s taught , that he referred to as “Kriya Yoga.” Heavy breathing does increase Oxygen intake, and holding it in, disperses Oxygen through out the body, which the knotted mind/soul IN THE BODY, where Kirpal Singh always taught his Initiates to “Rise ABOVE body consciousness”, which is to the 3rd eye.

I practiced Pranayama for long enough to know it always kept me in the body, below the 3rd eye, where the actual Spiritual Path BEGINS, as Charan taught.

Practicing the Technique I was taught by Thakar and Charan, produces the Light & Sound which is the verification that we are connected to The “Lord” , as Charan referred to, of which I have come to believe is actually our Higher Self/Causal body.

Why? Because all Lights, Sounds, Visuals and Audables cease in Anami Purush.

Jim Sutherland

In the UK there is an organisation – Breathworks UK. Sounds similar to the Washington Post story.

Breathworks courses teach a highly adaptable system of understanding, teaching, and practising mindfulness and meditation. It includes:

*The importance of body-based practices, including the body scan and mindful movement
*How mindfulness and compassion practices can be profoundly life-changing and transformative for those suffering from chronic pain and health conditions
*Learning to switch from ‘doing mode’ into ‘being mode’ - learning the difference between thinking about experience and being directly aware of it
*Understanding the key difference between Primary Suffering (e.g. a pain in your leg) and Secondary Suffering (e.g. worrying about what the pain could be, whether it will get worse, etc. etc.)
*The essential role of compassion and kindness - towards others and towards yourself
*How to incorporate mindfulness into daily life.

As it’s a secular movement and not tainted with any aspirational religious/spiritual approach, it’s something I might try if ever I felt the need.

Meet the Guy who lives on air.

https://www.vice.com/en/article/nicolas-pilartz-breatharian-diet-interview/

Jim Sutherland

One hour in explains the mechanism of breath work and breathing in meditation. https://youtu.be/QQIwZ41Ro1w?si=EGkii9JZ_3iavSme The design of the body is fascinating.

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