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J. Krishnamurti spoke consciousness is its contents and awareness as purely being a moment of observing without evaluating. According to J. K., our fears, anxieties, thoughts, pleasures and constant efforts of bettering etc. etc., comprise the content of human consciousness. Thus, our seeing or listening, or any action primarily comes from the contents of consciousness and awareness can come only when we vacate the consciousness with its content.

Primarily, it's necessary to recognise what he means by the 'contents of consciousness'. Where we often see consciousness as something external to us, 'contents' is simply the information that is the mind. The mind being full of knowledge effectively ensuring we experience only via its 'store' of information. Neuroscience tells us that such memory (retrieving information) is constructed in the brain from billions of neurons.

I also have some sympathy with Sri Nisargadatta’s take on awareness and consciousness: - “Awareness is primordial; it is the original state, beginning-less, endless, uncaused, unsupported, without parts, without change. Consciousness is on contact, a reflection against a surface, a state of duality. There can be no consciousness without awareness, but there can be awareness without consciousness, as in deep sleep. Awareness is absolute, consciousness is relative to its content; consciousness is always of something”.

Is there then a distinction between consciousness and awareness? Could it be that what we call awareness is a quality inherent in every living cell which is felt by the whole organism and 'recognised by a brain? I wouldn't go as far as to embrace panpsychism but could non-sentient life forms (plants etc.) and even inorganic matter have something akin to awareness?

Perhaps awareness is the same as the Buddhist emptiness. The buddha taught that your true nature is emptiness and when this true nature is realized, the divine states of loving-kindness, compassion, em-pathetic joy, and equanimity emerge.

Does the Buddhas message above point to a mind that is empty of conscious content, revealing the true nature of being just awareness? I can see that the contents (our conditioning) of consciousness can prevent loving-kindness, compassion, empathetic joy and equanimity – such contents being the building blocks of the separative self structure.

Ever watched the TV series "The Good Doctor"? I think Dr. Shaun Murphy is what a modern-day Ramana Maharshi would be like. He even sort of looks like Ramana.

Kindly in an obligatory way, but completely detached from emotion and empathy, and also apparently bereft of sensuality.

Leading me to wonder, what is the difference between Advaita and autism.

, without a teacher you cannot learn
People, without a perfect master
enlightenment no, master perfect is he who is perfect and needs no inspection , it's easy just as easy as seeing sun in morning,

Meeting him trails behind our luck ,which on all it depends,

Hey Ron
Cool post. I enjoy reading what you write. I find your words generally practical, pragmatic and informed without shutting the ‘door’ so to speak, evidenced by your reference to two of my all time favourites when it comes to this discussion of consciousness and awareness: Jiddu Krishnamurti and Sri Nisargadatta. These days I see it as they describe it. Add in Tollifson (who cites both of them in her list) and one could argue they’re all more or less on the same page. I even recall (hopefully accurately), Rupert Spira saying that whilst he was under anaesthetic, there was loss of consciousness but no loss of awareness….
What remains interesting is where Sant Mat fits with all this. Is the shabd the sound of ‘consciousness’? I also recall in ‘I am That’ Nisargadatta talks of the ‘soundless sound’, though I can’t remember the context. Further, and as far as I can tell none of these dudes rarely, if not at all, mention the Third Eye and its importance, please correct me if they do/have. What I’m getting at here is to ask the question again - is Sant Mat some sort of spiritual outlier, that takes folks on a different trip?
Back to consciousness - I was thinking about Descartes famous dictum the other day - ‘I think therefor I am’, maybe he’s not telling the whole story. It could be reworded to say ‘I am, therefor I think’ which puts existence/being (the essence of awareness?) as primary, and consciousness after the fact, aligned with activity of the body/mind. This is one way to look at it.

"God/Jesus= imagination which is implanted(crucified) in the skull(Golgotha) of every human."
-Neville Goddard

Hi Tim. You must be as old as I am to remember J.K. and Nissrgadata. I'm not familiar with Sant Mat, more familiar with the Chan/Zen way of approaching consciousness, self etc. and throw in a bit of the Sufi way. More or less anything along the lines of the non-duallity brigade.

Yes my sort of meditation too..in this period of time.
Sometimes one can use some mantra in fact to come to this ´still place´ Awareness..
(only when the mind is not quiet..)
Just being still..is <3
Sometimes I tell myself ´Everything is exactely how it IS´
´Isness¨

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