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September 03, 2020

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Guilty or not. This should be an eyeopener for all these RSSB followers. Is this living a moral life? Sending crores to your family members while half of india starves. Pathetic. Almost like the trump of india.

Unfortunately, it has felt like we’ve been going around in circles for 2+ years now however, hopefully, this is now the beginning of the end for the culprits

“Let Justice Be Done, Though the Heavens May Fall“

And here we go again. A lesson for us all that Radha Soami is nothing more than a despicable and radical cult which thrives on lies, manipulation and deception. Gurinder dhillion has been exposed again and his acting career is finally over, you can drop the act now. He is nothing more than a self proclaimed selfish manipulating weak god man with ulterior motives in mind and no human values whatsoever. Scotland Yard and the CBI needs to fully investigate the suspicious circumstances leading to the mysterious death of his wife Shabnam Dhillion.This Fraud case of the Missing Millions of Malvinder would be a perfect case for the Rebuplic T.Vs host Arnab Goswami he would tear GSD apart in no time and expose the truth to the world to behold. Looks like the fat lady is about to sing anyway and now it's finally time for GSD to do some pay back for all his henious crimes, stop being so shy and face the heavenly music. Rumour has it GSD is in hiding at Haynes Park in the U.K and probably going to play the poor little me cronovirus card soon, but your date with destiny still stands at Delhi High Court and is well overdue, I'm sure you would agree. Home sweet Home is a calling, come on Home GSD justice finally needs to be served!

He’s not in hiding. He just did a Q&A at Dera yesterday.

Malvinder’s millions?? We don’t know whose money it was.

Don’t think there is enough evidence to arrest GSD...Malvinder gave this money to GSD and family. At best, GSD will be asked to return the money back which he will if faced with jail time but there is no criminal allegation against GSD that can get him arrested. What do you guys think?

The road to hell is paved with good intentions.

Nick,
You’re right they didn’t even require GSD to come to court so not as serious as ppl are making out.

Gurinder the shy dhillan has all the money in his account, and he even admits to it. I don't call this honest living - the fraudster is living a billionaire life style traveling in private jets while poor sangat walk for miles, to donate everything they have to the dera. Hes a crook disguised as a guru to fool the masses. Hes now summoned to Dehli high court as they obviously see suspicious activity. Why doesnt he go and prove his innocence? And for gods sake pay your taxes like everyone else does, or have you something to hide?

RSSB is not a small organisation, before taking money they must have calculated all the combinations and way to bust the combinations. Last resort - to return the money. It can do that also.

A handicapped man has been fighting in Indian Courts for 10 years to recover his farming land taken over by Dera Beas. Small farmers from surrounding villages have seen their farming land disappear to re-routed Beas river, roads get dug up and electricity switched off to blackmail people to sell their lands to Dera Beas at knockdown prices, all with the help of Government and police.Some honest police officers say openly that they are being made to help Dera Beas.Nobody in India is allowed to own more than 10 acres of farming land but this law does not apply to trustee(GSD) of Dera Beas.

Both Akali and Congress parties in Punjab are in the pockets of Dera Beas.Main man who handled the dodgy money at Dera Beas was found dead on railway line,official report said suicide but others say he knew too much and politicians arranged to got rid of him.

@Really

You’re right they didn’t even require GSD to come to court so not as serious as ppl are making out.

Are you from planet earth Really?

GSD has been asked numerous times to appear before the Delhi High Court even his whole family has, but as usual he plays the please feel sorry for me as I'm a poor Cancer patient blah blah blah...pathetically pathetic GSD
Even knocked of his wife at the time of the court date, so she wouldn't cause him any embarrassment by ending up behind bars. A Selfish physcotic Baba with no human values let alone godly.

Planet earth to Really is anybody in?
Highly unlikely coming from the brainwashed Radha Soami Radicalised Cult. Nothing new to learn here, they are already know it all's

@ manoj

If the facts and the legal system doesn't do the job you want to be done, do you think your adjectives will do?

@UM

I see you have a soft spot for criminalized babas. Just dont start promoting drugs too. Not something to be proud of but you wouldn't know that, would you? Looney Tunes

the agents of radha swami that operate here have not got a leg to stand on. You cannot see beyond your brainwashed perspective as you are way to close to GSD and the path. What is it that dehli high court see that the agents of rssb don't see. Stop burying your heads in the sand and wake up to the fact that GSD is a crook, that is related to crooks, and has close friends all over the world that are crooks. Shabnams death needs to be independently investigated as it has happened in very suspicious circumstances, to the benefit of the so called guru

@ Manoj

If the food served in a restaurant I used to go, is no longer to my liking, I just will take leave, not to return again.

No need to walk the street day in day out, calling upon the by passers not to enter the restaurant.
But if you see it as your duty and find pleasure in it ... make it your day and enjoy.

Manoj wrote,

A lesson for us all that Radha Soami is nothing more than a despicable and radical cult which thrives on lies, manipulation and deception. Gurinder dhillion has been exposed again and his acting career is finally over, you can drop the act now.

…. I think all cult leaders are same. He is no different than other Babas in this trade, on the contrary he seems to be much better and well organized than the others and of course much more powerful as well in all aspects and his acting career is still far away from coming to an end.
Regarding investigations by the Delhi Police or complaints or proof of wrongdoings etc. by Malvinder, or summons issued by the court would only create noise.
This is a normal process and Baba and his team are very capable of handling these issues. Normally these cases go on for decades without any conclusion and then would be filed after the death of the persons involved in them, if it is not different this time.
One thing is very clear that Baba Gurinder has wiped out Charans family from RSSB and the next probable successor to the throne would be from Dhillons family.

Well, it is possible that GSD and his sons will go to prison if that is the lords will. It could be. Sometimes we have to experience what seems to be unfair. Perhaps GSD will go to jail to test the faith of satsangis.

A true saint could be content under any circumstance. Just look at St. Paul. He was imprisoned and chained day and night but he wrote in Philippians 4:11-13:

(New International Version)
11 I am not saying this because I am in need, for I have learned to be content(A) whatever the circumstances. 12 I know what it is to be in need, and I know what it is to have plenty. I have learned the secret of being content in any and every situation, whether well fed or hungry,(B) whether living in plenty or in want.(C) 13 I can do all this through him who gives me strength.(D)

I’m sure GSD would be content and easily able to do God’s will whether he was in prison or not. I don’t think GSD is worried in the very least whether he gets sentenced or not. A true saint doesn’t worry about these things. They put everything in the hands of the Lord.

The question is, could you?

Historically, the more famous a Saint is the more likely they are to be a martyr. Not an enviable position by worldly standards.

Why u guys so busy hating on baba ji. Why dont u mind ur business n worship om gods then. Get in touch with kal n his family chakras if babaji aint showin up. Cut it out what do u get by slanderin n humilating babajis name? Do u get merits n points. Theres many 3rd eye chakras go somewhere else. Jai jai kal niranjan. Om. 🕉

The6thdon,

I wasn’t “hating on baba ji” in the very least. If that’s how you interpreted what I said then you were mistaken and didn’t understand what I was saying.

Sonia, I can see you are already busily laying out the groundwork for justifying the Baba’s potential criminality/wrongdoing being confirmed by implying there’s a higher meaning to it.
There isn’t. It’s simply pure, unadulterated Greed. Hundreds of millions of dollars have disappeared and obviously a significant amount of that money has travelled through the Baba & his family’s bank accounts. There’s absolutely nothing noble about that. Just a petty crook at work.
The one-eyed nature of GSD’s fans is utterly embarrassing at times

Sonia @I’m sure GSD would be content and easily able to do God’s will whether he was in prison or not. I don’t think GSD is worried in the very least whether he gets sentenced or not. A true saint doesn’t worry about these things. They put everything in the hands of the Lord.

So you really are completely deluded , just like Rahm Rahim followers still think their guru is innocent even though he is a convicted murderer. You have lost touch with reality, and fallen for the bait. He probably gave you some confirmation on the inside,
dream or a vision, that he is god and right in some form of poetry or song, but you fail to see this manipulation. You fail to see the facts in front of you. And yes GSD would definitely mind being in jail, after all he loves the like light, and charan will be whooping his ass for single handedly destroying the rssb path. Good job, he has damaged it as the path is fake, just as the cult leader. Well done GSD your lust for greed, and hypocrisy has brought you down.

Perhaps they will work out a payment plan.

Sonia @I’m sure GSD would be content and easily able to do God’s will whether he was in prison or not. I don’t think GSD is worried in the very least whether he gets sentenced or not. A true saint doesn’t worry about these things. They put everything in the hands of the Lord.

So you really are completely deluded , just like Rahm Rahim followers still think their guru is innocent even though he is a convicted murderer. You have lost touch with reality, and fallen for the bait. He probably gave you some confirmation on the inside,
dream or a vision, that he is god and right in some form of poetry or song, but you fail to see this manipulation. You fail to see the facts in front of you. And yes GSD would definitely mind being in jail, after all he loves the like light, and charan will be whooping his ass for single handedly destroying the rssb path. Good job, he has damaged it as the path is fake, just as the cult leader. Well done GSD your lust for greed, and hypocrisy has brought you down.

Posted by: Dragon slayer | September 07, 2020 at 09:02 AM

I’m not deluded. I don’t think GSD is perfect. He makes mistakes just like the rest of us. He couldn’t have cancer or diabetes if he didn’t have karma. He’s no different from the rest of us other than he’s playing a role that Charan assigned to him.

I’m just saying there are things about that I like and things I don’t agree with but I don’t think he’s a criminal mastermind.

I’ve been back and forth on this whole scandal thing. I honestly don’t know who did what. Clearly mistakes were made in judgement. Perhaps not going into business with people who have a long history of criminal activity would have been a good start. Regardless, his family and his financial problems really don’t have anything to do with us.

I’m not against Sant Mat. I don’t subscribe to a lot of its teachings, but some of the teachings resonate. I don’t hate RSSB. They’re really no different than most well organized religions. Most of the people mean well and try to live a good life. That’s commendable.

I don’t care how much the teachings have changed or not. I don’t believe in half of it. However, there are certain teachings I do agree with. A lot of what I learned from Sant Mat/RSSB got me to where I am now.

Even if he was guilty, how does that affect me personally? I’ve just simply decided not to personalize this anymore.


Karma isn’t all “mystical”. It just means we suffer from limited perception. Sometimes we take on too much and we get sick. Sometimes we inadvertently hurt others feelings and get a strong reaction. Sometimes we intentionally attack others and the effect of that comes right back to us in some form. Karma is just cause and effect, but I don’t believe in the “exactness” of it. I’m not even sure what that means, “a seed in a neighbors field”. Please, I can’t even...

I think we make ourselves sick at some level when we try to be judge and jury of someone or something when we have no personal involvement or intimate understanding of the situation. If we were personally involved in this then sure, judge away.

If you’re an ex-satsangi why should you care? Why hold on? Why does it matter to us. It’s like breaking up with someone and 15 years later you’re still complaining about your ex. It takes time to get over a break-up, but if I’m complaining about it 15 years from now, then I need help.

This isn’t the President of the US where his actions actually do effect our lives. This is a situation that has no baring on any of us personally.

I’m 100% certain no court would allow any of us here to be jurors on this case.

Sonia, good question... "If you’re an ex-satsangi why should you care? Why hold on? Why does it matter to us."

When I read about Gurinder's problems I wonder why ex-satsangis even care. Why does it even matter anymore. Okay I understand this is Brian's blog and he likes to share any news about the Dera and in many ways this blog has changed my mind and made a huge difference in my thoughts and understandings and I appreciate it very much.

"One of the biggest hallmarks of critical thinking is the capacity for independent thought. It's easy to believe or agree without consideration. Nevertheless, when we choose to think independently, we exercise a right we have as humans, and a responsibility we have as global citizens. 
Independent thought requires effort and work, but the payoff is immeasurable. For one thing, it introduces different perspectives and viewpoints, which can be educational in nature. Another aspect of independent thought is that it leads us to carry our convictions with courage and to have faith in our ability to decide what is best for ourselves."
.....................
"Consider also that curiosity is like exercise for the brain, combatting boredom and stagnation by making the brain more active and energized. By being curious, we seek out possibilities and perceive things we normally wouldn't see. Or, we end up seeing them in a completely different light."

https://wabisabilearning.com/blogs/critical-thinking/powerful-critical-thinking-quotes

Hi Jen,

Interesting article full of great quotes. :)

Yes, curiosity is an effective remedy to boredom. But at the end of the day I think we’re all ruled by our emotions whether we want to believe it or not. People either surround themselves with other people who already think the way they do, OR they eventually start thinking like the people they’re around.

We’re not truly objective as human beings. Close relationships cannot be truly transactional. Look at marriage—an arranged marriage is a transactional almost business type of relationship that is supposed to work because there’s less emotion. But that’s BS. It doesn’t matter what your motivation is for being with someone because either way you’re both going to end up making huge compromises that ultimately have an affect on the way you perceive the world. And the reason we make those compromises is to preserve our sanity.

When we’re in a room by ourselves we can think critically. When we’re with other people we can try to think critically and it will work for a while but eventually both will be affected by the other person’s opinions, ideas and beliefs.

Gurinder’s relationship with his nephews was transactional—I’m sure it made logical sense to do business with family. In that culture going into business with family is considered very practical decision. But eventually it blew up because people are innately irrational.


https://m.economictimes.com/news/politics-and-nation/delhi-hc-dismisses-rssb-chief-gurinder-singh-dhillons-application-seeking-not-to-put-itr-on-record/articleshow/78075787.cms

Game. On.

All, this charlatans crimes DO matter, whether you’re part of this cult or not, because good, decent people shouldn’t look the other way when undesirable’s commit repugnant crimes

From my perspective, most of my dad’s family are ardent, overly zealous RS believers and, me, believing in live & let live, married a RS believer from a more moderate RS family

To me, it’s absolutely obvious that Ram Rahim, Sai Baba & this Buffon GSD are nothing more than conmen, and the sooner their exposed for the nasty, greedy criminals they are, the better for ALL of society

I am just waiting for the day that GSD is banged up so I can go on a Ludoo round, to my relatives houses and remind them of their RS-inspired snobbery

Sonia: "When we’re in a room by ourselves we can think critically. When we’re with other people we can try to think critically and it will work for a while but eventually both will be affected by the other person’s opinions, ideas and beliefs."

So true. This is probably why I spend so much time on my own. I want to just be the observer. But, the mind never stops. Watching and thinking all the time about what is this world? Why am I here? What happens after death? I try to meditate and just fall asleep. In Sant Mat we are told the mind is Kal, the negative power. Is there a higher power than Kal? There is no answer. There is no proof. There are only queries and we believe what we want to believe in.

It never ends...

"The key critical thinking skills are: analysis, interpretation, inference, explanation, self-regulation, open-mindedness, and problem-solving."

@ Jen

Somewhere in Santmat books I read of a teacher journeying in one of the so called VOIDS and finding no end to it returned from his journey.

Something the like did happen with my understanding of the Internet. Surfing had become a great pleasure, whatever i was interested in, was to be found. Then it suddenly became clear that there was "no end to what could be known" and with it the realization "that i was not born to know everything that can be known on the Internet".

Later it became clear that what holds for the internet holds for many other things especially things related to thoughts about the meaning of life etc.

The next step was the understanding that much what is in my mind has come there as it was put before it without my asking .... the education by parents and schools combined with the desire to be normal like all others. The understanding that there is a difference between stilling hunger and satisfying appetite.
That there was very little in my mind that found its origin there.

During that process it became clear that in never had an calling for religious matters, that there was never an "pull from within" and that if nobody had ever spoken to me about God, inner worlds and experiences, i would never have known about it.

So little by little I try to declutter my mind and keep there like that Japanese lady advises only those things that are natural and pleasant.

So I am not born to be and achieve what OTHERS say that life is all for, no need to walk in THEIR shoes, go where they go and with that understanding much of what you wrote "The key critical thinking skills are: analysis, interpretation, inference, explanation, self-regulation, open-mindedness, and problem-solving." .... just ends

@um

I like what you shared, “the realization "that i was not born to know everything that can be known on the Internet".

And just think, the internet that most of us see (the surface internet) is only about 10% of the internet. 90% is the deep web and the dark web.

We DON’T WANT TO KNOW all there is to know. If we did, it’s literally impossible...

@ Sonia

Over the years if found that the sayings of MCS used in a particular situation could easily and successfully transfered to other situations he never addressed.

So, the story of a teacher telling his student, to visit him each and everyday and after objecting by the student that he was not able to do so, told him in the end to visit him at least once a year.
That reasoning, advice can also be used for all sorts of situations .... even holidays .... if one has not the possibility to go three times a year due to circumstances, one can go twice, or once and even just one day.

So the word "Internet" can easily be replaced biy, words like religion, meditation techniques, spiritual teachers etc etc.

Or in short ...I was not born to drink in and make to my own whatever the culture I was born in had to offer ... let alone what other cultures have to offer.

That realization sets one free in a sense .... to find out what it means to live a natural life in a natural way.
Hope there will be time enough .... that it is not to late to find out.

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