Here's the latest development in the financial fraud saga involving the Singh brothers (Malvinder and Shivinder) and their relative, Gurinder Singh Dhillon, the guru of Radha Soami Satsang Beas.
Today a story in India's The Economic Times says that Dhillon has told the Delhi High Court that he wants to be exempted from producing his personal income tax returns.
Since Malvinder Singh has said that the RSSB guru and his family ended up with most, or all, of the money illegally siphoned from Religare, a public corporation, obviously it is important for investigators to see the Dhillon tax returns.
If Dhillon truly is innocent, as he claims, why doesn't he make his tax returns available to the High Court? His secrecy points to guilt, not innocence.
Or maybe the RSSB guru considers that he is God in Human Form and doesn't have to comply with worldly laws.
Gosh, I wonder where he could have gotten that idea. Oh, yes, that is a fundamental part of the Radha Soami Satsang Beas teachings. So that's how Dhillon would have come to think he is godly.
RSSB chief seeks not to put ITR on record
The chief of Radha Soami Satsang Beas (RSSB), Gurinder Singh Dhillon, has sought exception from filing income tax returns (ITR), telling the Delhi High Court that it contained 'personal information' and that this was not an 'appropriate stage' to produce such documents.
New Delhi: The chief of Radha Soami Satsang Beas (RSSB), Gurinder Singh Dhillon, has sought exception from filing income tax returns (ITR), telling the Delhi High Court that it contained 'personal information' and that this was not an 'appropriate stage' to produce such documents.
The court had earlier asked Dhillon and his family members to file ITRs, after he denied of having any liability towards RHC Holdings, a company promoted by Malvinder and Shivinder Singh. The Singh brothers, who had previously controlled Religare Enterprises and Ranbaxy LaboratoriesNSE 5.63 %, are facing probes by various agencies for alleged financial irregularities.
They were also ordered to pay Rs 3,500 crore to Daiichi Sankyo under an arbitration award over the sale of Ranbaxy to the Japanese company. In an affidavit filed before the court, Dhillon said being individuals, his family members and he did not “maintain balance sheets” and filing ITR would cause “severe prejudice” to them. Dhillon had earlier admitted of his financial dealings with the Singh brothers by annexing copies of bank statements.
UPDATE: Someone just sent me a photo the print version of the story. It has some content that wasn't in the online story.
Trump in Sach Khand: "Americans don't care about Gurinder's tax returns, just reporters."
Posted by: anami | March 12, 2020 at 10:21 AM
Trump in Sach Khand: "He'll release them when Hillary releases her emails."
Posted by: anami | March 12, 2020 at 10:23 AM
Trump in Sach Khand: "He can't release them, because he's under audit."
Posted by: anami | March 12, 2020 at 10:24 AM
Ah Brian Ji.
Just when I was hoping never to have to read any more on this subject, Baba Ji understandably is now exercising his right to avoid incriminating himself with evidence that is in fact, even by his own admission, incriminating.
He had in the past openly acknowledged that many people moved lots of money through his accounts. But his claim was that what they moved in they also moved out.
But tax evasion no one can escape.
His claim here is that he didn't keep good records. He could be accused of keeping most of that money.
And it's his right to avoid testifying against himself, even to Incriminate himself with what is incriminating.
The wheels of fate are proceeding towards the unavoidable and inevitable result.
Wouldn't it be nice if everything just stopped?
But that's not how justice works.
Posted by: Spence Tepper | March 12, 2020 at 10:31 AM
Not "the appropriate stage" to reveal his tax returns? How many more of Gurinder's followers need to go to prison while he remains mum on using them for shady financial deals?
Anyway, I thought Gurinder has retired from business life long ago and, as he told us, was just "living off the money his family gave him."
Posted by: j | March 12, 2020 at 12:08 PM
Brian in Sach Khand: "I still write blogs about Gurinder"
Posted by: Marko | March 12, 2020 at 12:09 PM
@ Today a story in India's The Economic Times says that Dhillon has told the Delhi
@ High Court that he wants to be exempted from producing his personal income
@ tax returns.
GSD is requesting... requesting. I suspect there's concern about
personal info unrelated to the probe leaking to the tabloids. NO,
you say, from a High Court.... never!
After all, the public has a RIGHT, a god-given right, to that info.
Down to the smallest financial detail and every iota of dirt that
can be gleaned from it. No, not just the forensic accountants in
a secure setting to examine relevant portions. All of us dammit...
so we can adjudicate his guilt. We're trained to do it, trust us.
We, the knowing, demand access. The Baba is clearly corrupt and
the posse is hot on his trail. You know... the posse... the illumined
few on the CofC blog, the envious, the haters, the rabble from every
street corner. They should have a chance to sift through, weigh in,
opine, pen op-eds, wave placards, demand he be jailed.
Why, you ask. Because He's guilty! The charges: masterminding a
criminal conspiracy, tax evasion, greed, wealth (obscene, god awful
amounts of it), uttering RSSB heresies, land grabbing, selling tainted
medicines to children. Oh, I almost forgot... making death threats too.
Wait, here comes the verdict. The court has ruled. The Kangaroo gavel
just slammed down. Hang him... or, if the condemned one so chooses,
he will be burned at the stake. We'll add the tax returns to funeral pyre.
Posted by: Dungeness | March 12, 2020 at 04:38 PM
What happened to RSSB's much-trumpeted heritage of being the most ethical religion on the planet?
For decades RSSB has portrayed itself as the religion known for "honest living." Almost every RSSB books point out that the RSSB guru isn't like all the other gurus and religious leaders. He doesn't live off his followers. He doesn't receive gifts. He's in all ways a solid, peerlessly honest, straight dealing, law-abiding citizen.
Speaking of honesty, let's all examine our motives for taking initiation. How many of us took RSSB initiation in part because we were impressed by the claims it made for the guru's integrity? I'm not an RSSB initiate myself, but I have to admit that the rhetoric about the guru's impeccable honesty did have a significant effect on my opinion of this him and this religion.
RSSB advertised itself as the only ethical religion left on the planet. I don't think that's an exaggeration. Charan's talks and RSSB books had nothing good to say about any other religions or even other sant mat gurus, and everything good to say about the other gurus in his line, and by extension, himself.
And the biggest claim that the RSSB gurus make, aside from being God? That they "live off their own earnings." That may have been true in the days of Sawan and Jagat Singh, but since they departed this world 70 years ago, the odds that the RSSB guru is self-supporting seem thinner than a 2 cent chapati.
Now we come to this financial scandal. I've given Gurinder the benefit of the doubt and have waited a long time for him to do or say something that suggests he's above suspicion of chicanery. But every time Gurinder is called upon to help straighten this matter out...he comes up with a flimsy excuse. When he's called upon by the Sangat to say something to clarify matters, he said to make smart remarks.
Moreover, Gurinder refuses to go to court because he says his diabetes prevents him from leaving home.
Gurinder refuses to let the court see his tax records, even though he stated that the only income he has is money his family gives him.
Gurinder is being sued for borrowing over 1M from a non-satsangi and not paying it back.
3 of Gurinder's followers are in prison right now for a scheme that involved moving money through accounts connected to Dhillion family members -- who btw were paid a salary for taking part in money laundering, but are apparently getting off scot-free.
1 of those followers is adamant that Gurinder was involved in ordering these movements of funds.
OK, let's take all that together: Is it really unreasonable to suggest that Gurinder is less than honest?
Some of us have been saying from the outset that the truth behind this scandal, and Gurinder's guilt or innocence, will be discerned by the courts. I said that and still believe it.
But when I said it, I kind of expected the Gurinder to at least cooperate with the courts. I didn't expect him to embark on a strategy of stonewalling India's legal system with BS excuses, and that's exactly what the present Guru of Beas is doing.
Posted by: j | March 12, 2020 at 10:30 PM
Well... what happens in India is just going to have to stay in India because I’m more worried about the impending quarantine. We’re going to be Little America after they take Draconian measures here. Big sigh...
Posted by: Sonia | March 12, 2020 at 11:24 PM
@ But when I said it, I kind of expected the Gurinder to at least cooperate with the
@ courts. I didn't expect him to embark on a strategy of stonewalling India's legal
@ system with BS excuses, and that's exactly what the present Guru of Beas is doing.
I disagree. His requests -both personal and medical- are not
unreasonable at all. Concern for the loss of financial privacy
is a reasonable objection. The entire family should insist on its
safeguard if there's a risk of exposure to the press. So is the
concern for his health... unless you've now chosen to ascribe
perfect health and "superpowers" to him.
Again those are only his requests. He has the right to make them.
The courts of course can deny them.
Posted by: Dungeness | March 13, 2020 at 12:48 AM
Life is not easy at the moment.
Climat change,ilness ,uncertainty
Dera's closed..
Now this.!
.it must be difficult for lots of Satsangi's..
Posted by: s* | March 13, 2020 at 01:11 AM
When you lose all
sense of self,
the bonds of a thousands
chains will vanish.
Lose yourself completely return to the root of
the root of the
root of your own soul
Rumi
<3
Posted by: s* | March 13, 2020 at 01:19 AM
Let’s hope justice prevails in the end!
Posted by: Nick | March 13, 2020 at 05:42 AM
"So is the concern for his health... unless you've now chosen to ascribe
perfect health and "superpowers" to him."
From what I understand from the official RSSB website, Gurinder is still actively participating in giving public satsangs in not only in Beas, but in Mumbai, Raipur, Indore, etc.
https://www.rssb.org/satsang_schedules.html
But according to Gurinder's lawyer, the Guru is far too frail to attend court and explain his part in a financial scandal. After all, the lawyer says, diabetics need their special meals.
Does a diabetic's need for special meals mean they can't show up for court? That's what Gurinder is claiming through his lawyer. Is that really true? I know of a diabetic who had his leg cut off and still got around town with riding the bus and a wheelchair. Perhaps he was a perfect master.
This is a financial scandal where we know considerable sums of money went into accounts controlled by the guru's family members and accounts associated with the guru himself. Yet the guru is refusing to step up in the most basic of ways to clear things up.
No, I'm sure not suggesting that Gurinder is Perfect. Far from it. I'm suggesting he's far from perfect. That is, far from being as honest as the average person.
As for Gurinder's personal finances and his tax statements, RSSB says right there on its website that Gurinder is retired and living off the money his family gives him. According to people who attend Gurinder events, Gurinder also says, boasts really, that he is innocent of any financial skullduggery because he only gets money his family gives him.
In other words, Gurinder has chosen to make his financial status public. He's claimed that his financial affairs are an open book. He's declared he's not a businessman and is simply living off the charity given him by his apparently wealthy family.
But now that Gurinder is called to prove that precious contention, he balks before the court with another empty excuse. All while the people he'd "advised" molder in prison.
This makes twice that Gurinder has refused to cooperate with India's legal system. On both occasions, his justifications for non-cooperation are transparently bogus. I think it's indefensible.
Posted by: j | March 13, 2020 at 06:57 AM
@S°
Each day it's easier for devoties
with The_Simran_of_Love_4the_Giver
to do exactly what Rumi said
Thank U so much
Only Love can stop our stupid thoughts
777
Posted by: 🌜🌞💥 WOW 💥🌞🌜 | March 13, 2020 at 07:33 AM
Are there any sources that say he is too frail for court? Because if thats true, its absolutely a disgusting tactic.
Also forget legality, is there any moral reason to not reveal your tax returns? I've always said that these babas are getting arrested left and right in India, what makes people think RSSB is so special...
Posted by: Neon | March 13, 2020 at 09:13 AM
The case had abeen put off until February 5th, 2020.
The current status of this case is found below:
https://www.financialexpress.com/industry/daiichi-payment-plan-former-ranbaxy-promoter-singh-brothers-get-sc-time-till-march-6/1886851
March, 16, is the new date for further proceedings
Posted by: Karim W. Rahmaan | March 13, 2020 at 11:36 AM
When you lose all
sense of self,
the bonds of a thousands
chains will vanish.
Lose yourself completely return to the root of
the root of the
root of your own soul
Rumi
<3
Posted by: s* | March 13, 2020 at 01:19 AM
Losing all sense of self is the most difficult, almost impossible thing one can attempt to do. But it’s a beautiful quote from Rumi. Far more comforting that the endless bad news we are receiving from the media. The media controls the minds of the masses.
Posted by: Sonia | March 13, 2020 at 11:39 AM
S not difficult at all. Atleast I can speak for myself. With the king of kings by your side what’s the difficulty?
Sonia what bad news??
Posted by: Jen from Austin Texas | March 13, 2020 at 04:41 PM
S not difficult at all. Atleast I can speak for myself. With the king of kings by your side what’s the difficulty?
Sonia what bad news??
Posted by: Jen from Austin Texas | March 13, 2020 at 04:41 PM
-corona virus
-stock market
-closures and cancellations
-travel
-financial implications of this pandemic
-when will we ever be able to travel safely again
-death toll
I do not want to live through such another time... and this is just the beginning. It won't get better till it gets much worse.
Posted by: Sonia | March 13, 2020 at 07:47 PM
S not difficult at all. Atleast I can speak for myself. With the king of kings by your side what’s the difficulty?
Sonia what bad news??
Posted by: Jen from Austin Texas | March 13, 2020 at 04:41 PM
I'm answering the other half of this on Open Thread
Posted by: Sonia | March 13, 2020 at 07:54 PM
Doesn't India have some sort of contempt of court laws that make mocking the legal system with these sorts of excuses punishable?
"sorry bro, I really can't follow the law because I have a bunch of reasons and stuff that like, you wouldn't understand" isn't very convincing to me personally. But then again, I didn't study at an Ivy League law school so mabye "dude, like, it's not the right time for me to like comply and stuff" just goes over my head. I must admit, it is a very byzantine argument he's put forth and one needs to read it a number of times to grasp such dense legalese.
Posted by: Jesse | March 14, 2020 at 07:42 AM
"RSSB guru wants to keep his tax returns secret"
Dear Brian, as a mere mortal encumbered by the constraints of the human intellect, logic, values & morals etc, you clearly do not understand that the Pooran Sant Satguru Maharaj of the entire multi-verse, who has manifested in our local locale of pinda as Gurinder Singh, is a vast and incomprehensible store-house of Divine grace, power and knowledge, so much so that it overfloweth even unto His Sacred Tax Return (that's at least 3 more rounds of chaurasi for you just for not capitalising His Sacred Tax Return btw. Tut tut, will you never learn the objective mechanics of the universe?). The Esoteric Tax Return is kept secret because if mere mortals like you were to glance upon It you would be blinded by waves of Divine Light. Hazur Pooran Sant Satguru Maharaj Baba Gurinder Singh Ji Maharaj in His Infinite Grace is trying to protect you thankless, insolent, foolish mortals. Brian, do not become the next Icarus by prying open and glancing upon the Holiest of Holies Tax Return!!
Actually, I've been reading some of the comments here and over at the newly formed (?) "Radhasoamistudies" group (now apparently no longer on Yahoo!, but here: https://groups.io/g/RadhasoamiStudies ) recently, and in my personal opinion found there to be deep and immense levels of confusion, contradiction and dissonance with reality/actuality in almost all the comments I read.
And I think to myself "I would like to add to that".
So here is a little primer on Radhasoami Mat, for those who may be new to the subject, or those who are not quite confused enough yet:
1) First of all, we must understand Radhasoami Mat (henceforth RS) is NOT a religion. It is a living genuine spiritual path that has nothing whatsoever to do with religious beliefs. Even if without a single exception RS followers quack like a duck, walk like a duck, and their religion's lawyer's successfully claim in court that they are indeed ducks, they are not ducks. That is a trick of maya. They are simply the only real, truly chosen ones:
"RSSB's head in Australia is Michael Cooke, a retired corporate lawyer from Perth. "Having our status as a religion was not something we expected," he says "but we are delighted with the final result".
https://hinessight.blogs.com/church_of_the_churchless/2018/10/radha-soami-satsang-beas-admits-it-is-a-religion.html
2) Secondly, RS Mat is a science, not a blind belief to be accepted as if we are accepting the fairy tale story of Sant Claus. Science. Get it? Furthermore, it is also the only genuine Science of the Soul, as all other paths are of the mind, of course. This fact remains true despite the appearance of the somewhat inconvenient truth that almost every single other major religion, meditation or practice has indeed been scientifically tested to quite some degree, from Christian , Islamic & Jewish contemplatives, to a whole variety of Buddhist meditation techniques, Tibetan Buddhism and Dalai Lama giving unqualified access to their longest & most accomplished meditators to teams of independent scientists, TM meditation, 3HO meditation, the list of religious and "spiritual" meditation practices that have submitted their most accomplished meditators to independent scientific scrutiny is endless.
Well, actually, it does indeed end. Right at Radhasoami Mat's door, the "Science of the Soul". The only meditation practice on the planet that has never, once, had any sort of scientific, biological examination of it's members, let alone Pooran Sant Satgurus, yes those harbingers of Cosmic Truth. But don't let that stop anyone claiming to "die whilst living", or being the One True Science of the Soul. Being the very Emissaries of Truth, whatever any Satsangi says, ever, it become the very Truth itself. Even if it's untrue.
3) Ahh, but the real "science" of this Supreme Method is the "inner confirmation". Because there never has been any other Guru, or meditation method, that has provided such incontrovertible scientific evidence of the veracity and validity of it's path, from inner experiences and narratives that "simply must be true", to mind blowing synchronicities that cannot be put down to mere chance.....Proof positive that my path and guru is absolutely true, and that doubters do not understand how these experiences prove my guru and path is the one, true path and guru whilst all others, such as the nefarious Mr Singh, are mere pretenders*
(*Please substitute "my guru and path" with whatever guru and path you may be following, and "nefarious Mr Singh" with whichever guru you don't like, the essence and truth of the point remains completely unchanged.)
4) You cannot use the mind to discern, judge or understand in any way who or what a Sant is, or how they may behave. They can commit whatever crime they want, act as abhorrently and dishonestly as they wish etc, our mere mortal minds cannot understand their mysterious ways. However, my mere mortal mind can discern, judge and understand that the turbaned guru who's religion I happen to be born into/following for 40 years with no "realisation of the ultimate goal, not by a longshot", IS indeed the One True Satguru in the entire multi-verse, and that His path is the one true one. That's just common mind-sense.
5) Satgurus can be discerned only by their headgear, family heritage, and title of their global organisation. Turban? Check. Related to Sawan? Check. RSSB? Check. That's all the evidence I need! Bring on whomever shall be the next Pooran Sant Satguru Maharaj of the Entire Universe.......It's gotta be Shivender Singh hasn't it? Got Guru written all over him, that one! He'll have no problem facing up to Kal in his Court....plenty of experience!
6) The Guru doesn't claim to be "God" uniquely, He has just realised His Oneness and inseparability from God, whereas the rest of the us still have the delusion of separation and individuality. However, if you also realise your inseparability from God, but not whilst wearing a turban and sitting on a stage, you are
are just delusionally egotistical, and probably one of those neo-advaitic bullshitters. We are all One, but some are apparently more One than others.
7) In RS mat we spend our entire lives striving to escape the suffering of the masses in creation, and spend eternity in the bliss of Sach Khand, cuddling up to Sat Purush. Unfortunately, the suffering of the masses in creation is itself merely an expression, an outpouring of the timeless Sat Purush, and completely inseparable from "It", so we never really escaped the mindless masses and their suffering, but dived right back into it. Bit of a wasted journey, some might say. It's okay though, not a single RS Satsangi has ever completed the journey anyway!
8) The only person capable of giving good, helpful and wise advice is (my) Pooran Sant Satguru. Failing that, as it is nigh on impossible to actually get personal advice from (my) Pooran Sant Satguru, you may go to one of (my) Satguru's devoted disciples for advice. Advice from anyone else is motivated by ego and will result in bad fortune. If advice from (my) Satguru results in ceaseless bad fortune, it is because you do not understand his wise and mysterious ways. I'm sure there's a sufi teaching myth that supports this mindless assertion, so mindlessly believe it. Anyone who asserts otherwise is one of Kal's henchmen. On a positive note, Kal is himself one of Sat Purush's henchmen, so really they're just sub-contracting for Sat Purush!
9) (My) Satguru has collected huge, obscene amounts of money. Despite there being vast and overwhelming evidence that suggests this money was accumulated fraudulently, that is untrue. Everybody surrounding the guru, including his family and closest friends, is a deeply dishonest agent of Kal. All their money was evidently the proceeds of fraud. However, there is no proof that my Satguru accumulated his vast hordes of personal money fraudulently. In fact, it is abundantly clear this unemployed Master of the Universe accumulated hundreds of millions of dollars in cash and assets merely by putting kal in his place and reminding him who exactly is the Lord of the Entire Universe. Kal immediately Western Unioned the cash over. This isn't fraud, numbskulls, this is Mastery of the Entire Universe.
10) The reason (my) Satguru Maharaj accumulated such vast and obscene amounts of money, was for a very secret and Holy reason you mere mortals cannot understand. I can though; He was preparing for the floods, at which time the Great and Merciful Master was going to open up all his accumulated global real estate to the satsangis, where everyone would gather round and sing "kum-bay-yah my Satguru, kum-bay-yah" whilst the world around them disintegrates and floods. Confusing attitude to take, for those whose "True Home" is meant to be far, far away, you might say. I would ignore you though.
11) The reason (my) Satguru has now apparently lost all his obscene wealth and his assets threatened, is because the "Mauj has changed". For all you younguns who don't understand what this means, here is a definition:
"Mauj Has Changed - a term used in Radhasoami which can be used interchangeably with "I was completely wrong" or "I changed my mind", without the actual meaning or message being imparted being altered in any pragmatically discernible way by us mere mortals."
This definition comes from a wonderful RS Glossary created by a NPR that is still being added to (please help yourselves!):
https://groups.io/g/RadhasoamiStudies/message/199329
https://groups.io/g/RadhasoamiStudies/topic/39396269
12) (My) Satguru has created coronavirous to teach the world many lessons. He has hidden this in the hithertofore unrevealed secret; carnivorous is the only possible anagram of coronavirous. It is clear coronavirous is basically a trailer for one of RS's tenets that has gone viral.
13) As a Satsangi of Truth, I do not like to read long-winded treatise posts of critics, sceptics or indeed anyone or anything else. We prefer to only read ling-winded treatise posts of basically the same basic RS theology a child can understand in 1 hour, repeated endlessly and ad nauseum in satsangs, tapes, books and by my Perfect Master. Over and over again, the same, basic, one-dimensional satsang. Our method of debate or discourse with those who have alternative views, experiences and insights, is to repeat those same basic dogmas as if they have not heard them countless times or do not understand them, much like an Englishman who goes to a foreign country and thinks speaking in the local language is merely to speak their English, slower, louder and more condescendingly, usually to the bemusement of the listener.
If somebody does post a long treatise post which criticises or questions my interpretation of RS dogma, and one that I have no coherent or informative rebuttal too, beyond re-regurgitating RS dogma, I will make a point of ungraciously critically commenting on the length of a post, rather than just ignoring and not reading it like a mature adult. And thereby belying my actual obsession with it.
14) Well, there's just so, so much more confusion I can share, but we must draw a line somewhere!!
For more misinformation, please reread the above.
Posted by: manjit | March 14, 2020 at 07:59 AM
@ Does a diabetic's need for special meals mean they can't show up for court? That's
@ what Gurinder is claiming through his lawyer. Is that really true? I know of a diabetic
@ who had his leg cut off and still got around town with riding the bus and a
@ wheelchair. Perhaps he was a perfect master.
I certainly think GSD could bring his lunch but that's not the
point. GSD is not on trial. The Court could depose him out
of court under oath and not necessitate the fraught circus-
spectacle of a "Baba in court".
He does have travel Satsangs scheduled and they're arguably
even more important to him and his followers than a personal
appearance in court when he could easily be deposed in lieu
of it. But the concern for the welfare of those incarcerated he's
"advised" is truly touching.
As I stated and others seem to have missed in the zeal to render
a verdict and a gratuitously scathing denunciation, is that those
were GSD's requests to the Court. As far as I'm aware, the Court
can compel his attendance.
Posted by: Dungeness | March 14, 2020 at 11:06 AM
Not "the appropriate stage" to reveal his tax returns?
Posted by: j | March 12, 2020 at 12:08 PM
@spence, what's your advice to GSD (the stage actor) on what's the appropriate 'stage' to present these documents?
Posted by: Trevor Smith | March 14, 2020 at 12:04 PM
Doesn't India have some sort of contempt of court laws that make mocking the legal system with these sorts of excuses punishable?
Posted by: Jesse | March 14, 2020 at 07:42 AM
Don't you know that of all the people ( part of an elite group for not many in India like to invite the wrath of High/Supreme Court of India) it's the Singh brothers who face contempt of court charges
Posted by: Trevor Smith | March 14, 2020 at 12:09 PM
Stop calling RSSB a science!!
Posted by: Neon | March 15, 2020 at 03:58 AM
I Trevor
To put asked
"@spence, what's your advice to GSD (the stage actor) on what's the appropriate 'stage' to present these documents?"
We love you and want to help. Please let us do so.
Posted by: Spence Tepper | March 15, 2020 at 09:37 AM
Did you hear the one about the bearded baba who shaved off the face fuzz and sported a moustache instead. However, he got fed up with the handlebar style and went for something trendier. Henceforth a rumour then spread by blind believers saying that the ‘Mou’ had changed.
But more seriously wouldn’t it be good if GSD just fronted to either legally clear his name and this on going saga up or take the rap. I tend to agree with what j wrote. One small part of me still hangs on to the idea that he’s somehow innocent. This thought helps me to partly reconcile i.e. justify all the years spent following RSSB. Yet a bigger part of me considers GSD really has dropped the ball and with it a great deal of credibility around the fundamentals of an organisation I really did once feel part of but now believe to be flawed. It all comes from the top.
Posted by: Tim Rimmer | March 15, 2020 at 08:09 PM
When rationality meets mythology, the latter becomes untenable.
When the guru hyperbole meets reality, the turban becomes untied.
When the disciple realizes it is his/her projection, he/she become liberated.
Any path is good only to the degree that it is transparent to its mistakes.
Gurinder Singh has consistently talked about retiring early.
His tax returns going public will assure that.
Posted by: gurinderisplanningonretiring | March 15, 2020 at 09:57 PM
Gurinder Singh has consistently talked about retiring early.
His tax returns going public will assure that.
Posted by: gurinderisplanningonretiring | March 15, 2020 at 09:57 PM
Some seem to have a lot of faith in tax returns. This is a country where less than 5% of population file tax returns and many of those filed often riddled with underreporting.
Anyways, the most illogical part is the belief that GSD needs a reason (his tax returns for example) to retire.
Sd/-
Sath_Path
Posted by: 🌜🌞💥💖🦸🦂🐸🤶😈 | March 15, 2020 at 10:41 PM
Not "the appropriate stage" to reveal his tax returns?
Posted by: j | March 12, 2020 at 12:08 PM
@spence, what's your advice to GSD (the stage actor) on what's the appropriate 'stage' to present these documents?"
Posted by: Trevor Smith | March 14, 2020 at 12:04 PM
We love you and want to help. Please let us do so.
Posted by: Spence Tepper | March 15, 2020 at 09:37 AM
A commenter recently stated - it appears some 'satsangis' argue for the sake of arguing. To add to this I say - some reply for the sake of replying.
Maybe they believe a reply indicates some sort of ability/competency. Doesn't matter even if the reply is irrelevant and completely out of context.
Sd/-
Sath_Path
Posted by: 🌜🌞💥💖🦸🦂🐸🤶😈 | March 15, 2020 at 11:28 PM
India's Country time zone is much earlier than in North America.
I just Googled: https://www.google.com/search?q=daiichi+case&client=ms-android-americamovil-us-revc&prmd=nsiv&source=lnms&tbm=nws&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwjC_sHlm6DoAhWKpp4KHZEADrkQ_AUoAXoECAwQAQ
And Binged: https://www.bing.com/news/search?q=diiachi+case&FORM=HDRSC4
For the News results for the March 16th, 2020 Daiichi Case proceedings. Nothing but this article: Delhi HC orders RSSB chief Dhillon & family, Singh brothers, Ghodhwanis to be present in court on November 14 – Business Today.
It states posted 5 days ago yet, when I click the article it's dated for the year 2019.
Posted by: Karim W. Rahmaan | March 16, 2020 at 05:36 PM
The case had abeen put off until February 5th, 2020.
The current status of this case is found below:
https://www.financialexpress.com/industry/daiichi-payment-plan-former-ranbaxy-promoter-singh-brothers-get-sc-time-till-march-6/1886851
March, 16, is the new date for further proceedings
Posted by: Karim W. Rahmaan | March 13, 2020 at 11:36 AM
Karim,
The Supreme Court is now attending to only urgent matters (due to Covid). And I doubt this case qualifies as urgent.
Sd/-
Sath_Path
Posted by: 🌜🌞💥💖🦸🦂🐸🤶😈 | March 16, 2020 at 11:27 PM
The RSSB head has sought exemption from filing his tax returns on grounds
that this was not an 'appropriate stage' to produce such documents.
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Why isn't this a reasonably smart strategy when it's known that the Singh brothers may have already filed in the Supreme Court a 'definite' payment plan to discharge their Rs3500 crores liability to Daiichi. They were to have filed it by 6th March.
And why wouldn't this 'definite' repayment plan by the otherwise supposedly penniless brothers make an interesting read and have a bearing on other litigations that Singh brothers have dragged others (including the RSSB head) into.
Posted by: 🌜🌞💥💖🦸🦂🐸🤶😈 | March 16, 2020 at 11:37 PM
Why isn't this a reasonably smart strategy when it's known that the Singh brothers may have already filed in the Supreme Court a 'definite' payment plan to discharge their Rs3500 crores liability to Daiichi. They were to have filed it by 6th March.
And why wouldn't this 'definite' repayment plan by the otherwise supposedly penniless brothers make an interesting read and have a bearing on other litigations that Singh brothers have dragged others (including the RSSB head) into.
Posted by: 🌜🌞💥💖🦸🦂🐸🤶😈 | March 16, 2020 at 11:37 PM
Interesting point you make. A definite plan, 'concrete' is how it's positioned as, should not in my view have contingencies like for example we will pay up only after we receive monies from say XYZ.
But hey we dealing with the crooked Singh brothers here and I don't put it past them to submit a 'concrete repayment plan' which is full of such contingencies.
The plan if submitted should be interesting.
Posted by: Trevor Smith | March 17, 2020 at 09:57 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lCm1b-uOB3g&t=48s
Posted by: ankita | April 15, 2020 at 04:29 PM