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Hi Um
You wrote, quite beautifully
"On asking what happens to those bricks in the foundation … he, on a low voice said, that the whole building remains part and parcel of the creator.

" Since that day all worries about why some are called and others not have gone.

"Some saints are here to have this creation going, set examples of doing good, make life more comfortable for fellow human beings and others show the path how to leave it all behind."

The True Saints are the ones keeping it going, nearly invisibly. And they are the only path home that actually works.

But they refuse any titles at all. The flags waving at the tops of the building attract many people. We all want to be there at the top.

We pass so many along the bottom who wield the entire power of creation every day. They are literally power, yet appear powerless, transparent.

And they are the true path back. But to see them, to befriend one, we sometimes need teachers to point the way. Because we have lost our intuitive capacity, because we desire things and resonate now with those things, having lost our capacity to resonate with love itself.

So we go to a play about God, and listen to actors on a stage. And we think the play is real and the actors are real. With the actor of King Lear parcels out his Kingdom to his daughters we think mistakenly that if we become friends of the actor, we too can get some of his kingdom.

But he's just an actor. He doesn't have that kingdom.

We look to authority, to good stage actors, though they wield no power themselves.

At some point we must understand the reality of the lesson and separate that from the actor.

Usually that is after we have met a true Saint. They become our standard. But that can only happen after we meet them. Until then we can be receptive.

The ones at the bottom are already home. They work here but they don't live here. They are one with the divine 24/7. Their simple lives are a clue. Their consistancy, reliability, is a tell.

And when they are done, when they leave their shell here, they are already there with God, eigth region.

They are the ones with the power to take anyone back, and the only true gateway. Or more precisely, the ones who can help us go through that gate within ourselves.

Because of their humility and their near invisibility, we may not see or understand the true Saints, and so we need stage actors to learn from, to praise. We May go through several different teachers, Gurus, schools of meditation.

At some point we get a real Saint as a true friend. But they aren't a formal teacher and have no school. Our true Friend, might actually point us to a Guru, we might be directed to go see a play and the stage actor as part of our development. A true Saint may have done that for our own progress.

But at some point we realize who the True Saint actually is.

It's March 8, 2020. Tomorrow did come. Proof of calendars.

Hi Trevor
You wrote
"And being alive today, tomorrow or until one such moment being just a consequence/effect."

But what is the cause? And what is the effect?

If the effect is that you marvel at the incredible awesomeness of reality, then life is not a curse for you at all.

You wrote
" when life is a curse and for humans also an opportunity."

Why only an opportunity for humans?

What system of belief do you operate from?

What is your chosen reality?

Posted by: Spence Tepper | March 08, 2020 at 07:09 AM

@spence, Hi

Is your system of belief really the Santmat path for honestly while you claim it to be most of your utterances makes me doubt you understand it.

Btw Santmat explicitly provides clarity on what you seek from me.


I like the idea of unicorns. 😊

🦄🦄🦄

Posted by: Sonia | March 07, 2020 at 09:01 PM

The Lernaean Hydra is so much better.

And in real life the spider and it's web.

Nice chakra entanglement

https://www.facebook.com/thesaltoftheearthcogic/videos/547260022574321/?v=547260022574321

Humans have so many enticement possibilities

777

🦄. T Y. Sonya

We are ALL. The Almighty
doing whatever HE wants

777

ps
Spence
The Mauj has changed

@spence

You say "Rather than attempt to mind read or project your own approach onto me, may I suggest you would be better served taking an inquisitive strategy?"

I am a firm believer in karma theory. So no free even if it's unsolicited advice for me. Get the picture?

But maybe you are right in your classifications. After all it's the modesty of the transformed you (because of your association with some who you categorize as True Saints) that prevents you from claiming that your categorization carries God's approval.

Jerks like me do extremely well spiritually (cant divulge details)associating with stage actors like Hazur and GSD and that beautiful swindler (in your words) a.k.a. Sawan Singhji. So hey its best you hold on to your views and do enjoy your Sunday.

@ Trevor,

You say to @Spence "Maybe there is are a couple of lessons to learn for you in your search."

Maybe one worthy lesson that hopefully will be picked up is - repeating a ridiculous notion ad nauseam doesn't even make it sound plausible.

sd/-

Sath_Path

@ Spence

Prof. B sitting next to one of what you call "stage actors", said"
The pull must come from within and if it is not there it is just not there and there is nothing you can do.

wise words

Within the framework of teachings of the saints as they come to us through books of those who are honored as such …. in their own days all what you call "stage actors" …. there is nothing to be found that supports your point of view on saints, and what they are here for.

Nothing of what you say, I ever came across when reading Kabir, Nanak or Mevlana Rumi, peace be upon him.

That doesn't mean you are wrong, or that it is not there, but I never found it.

Your way is the way of doing good to fellow human beings … that is what I have heard in churches, and public debates applauding Mother Theresa.

Go brain dead is it? Is that the solution? 🤣🤣
Posted by: Trevor Smith | March 07, 2020 at 07:43 PM

Tou know what I ment. - Thinking - Stop it at will
Easy. with Love!

777

Hi Um
It isn't expected that everyone would find a true Saint. The stage actors have their role to play. And their followers are happy to bow before them, to bow low, and the lower they bow, the prouder they are. Proud to serve the King on the stage. Proud to claim they have God in their pocket. With each public cry "I am nothing!" before their costumed actor on the stage, grows their pride. The height of the stage, the decibels of the speakers the measure of their pride.

But the True Saint has no authority over you. It is they who prostrate themselves before you. They give you nothing to be proud of. Just love.

"Brother, I’ve seen some
Astonishing sights:
A lion keeping watch
Over pasturing cows;
A mother delivered
After her son was;
A guru prostrated
Before his disciple;
Fish spawning
On treetops;
A cat carrying away
A dog;
A gunny-sack
Driving a bullock-cart;
A buffalo going out to graze,
Sitting on a horse;
A tree with its branches in the earth,
Its roots in the sky;
A tree with flowering roots.

This verse, says Kabir,
Is your key to the universe.
If you can figure it out."
Kabir

When there is an actor, everyone then becomes an actor.

there is nothing you can do.

We go where or heart is!

But if by chance you cross the Saint's Path
HE CAN CHANGE THAT

Rumi
"The Kings Falcon , without a reason; has landed on Your Shoulder"

777

Mother Theresa.

Posted by: Um | March 08, 2020 at 12:01 PM

You referred to Theresa. She is actually Saint Theresa having been given that TITLE by none other than the HEAD of the Church and SOVEREIGN of the Vatican City State. What's also fantastic is that she turns saint after she is dead. LoL.

Oh Lord please forgive me for belittling atleast two True Saints in my post. LoL

Hi Trevor
You write
"Btw Santmat explicitly provides clarity on what you seek from me."

You misunderstand. I wasn't asking about Sant Mat mythology, but yours.

Are you saying your are an RSSB Satsangi?

Mother Theresa......

Posted by: Um | March 08, 2020 at 12:01 PM

You referred to Theresa. She is actually Saint Theresa having been given that TITLE by none other than the HEAD of the Church and SOVEREIGN of the Vatican City State. What's also fantastic is that she turns saint after she is dead. LoL.

Oh Lord please forgive me for belittling atleast two True Saints in my post. LoL

Posted by: Trevor Smith | Mar 8, 2020 1:22:37 PM

This comment caught my interest...
"The Mauj has changed
Posted by: 🦄 7🦄"

Such is life...

"Mauj is an Urdu word, it means “wave, surge, enjoyment, ecstasy, caprice, plenty” in English."

“One day your life will flash before your eyes. Make sure it’s worth watching.”
– Unknown

@ Trevor,

You say to @Spence "Maybe there is are a couple of lessons to learn for you in your search."

Maybe one worthy lesson that hopefully will be picked up is - repeating a ridiculous notion ad nauseam doesn't even make it sound plausible.

sd/-

Sath_Path

Posted by: 🌜🌞💥💖🦸🦂🐸🤶😈 | March 08, 2020 at 10:58 AM

@Sath_Path, Hi

Are you a mind reader too? for it can't be just a coincidence that you strike a bullseye about the lesson to learn I had in mind Creepy this is.

When there is an actor, everyone then becomes an actor.

Posted by: Spence Tepper | March 08, 2020 at 01:15 PM

Bang on.....As an actor I go by the name Shahrukh Khan. Google me if you wish

Posted by: 🌜🌞💥💖🦸🦂🐸🤶😈 | March 08, 2020 at 10:58 AM

@Sath_Path, Hi

Are you a mind reader too? for it can't be just a coincidence that you strike a bullseye about the lesson to learn I had in mind Creepy this is.

Posted by: Trevor Smith | March 08, 2020 at 01:48 PM

Yes, 🌜🌞💥💖🦸🦂🐸🤶😈 is a mind reader. He is bewitching, beguiling and very dangerous indeed.

He’s like an orb spider on LSD. Don’t underestimate his abilities.

😉

Can you pleeeeez explain this —————> 🌜🌞💥💖🦸🦂🐸🤶😈

BTW, my husband said that at Satsang the NRI who attended February’s session said that GSD was all serious fire and brimstone.

Very fitting. It is the end of days...

What is Swami without Radha?

You misunderstand. I wasn't asking about Sant Mat mythology, but yours.

Are you saying your are an RSSB Satsangi?

Posted by: Spence Tepper | March 08, 2020 at 01:23 PM

@spence, Hi

I follow Satsukrit. It's a sublime(but surely absolute mythology for you). Only a handful privileged ordained to have it revealed to them. Don't bother to look it up. The revelation in the present time isn't through written text, spoken languages, some physical initiation etc.

Santmat mythology!!!!!!! Interesting you refer to it as a myth.. Probably explains your abysmal understanding of your Master, his predecessors and successor.

Good night.

@ When there is an actor, everyone then becomes an actor.

Do you mean "The play's the thing" ?

(A ruse by an actor to elicit truth or something else)

Can you pleeeeez explain this —————> 🌜🌞💥💖🦸🦂🐸🤶😈

BTW, my husband said that at Satsang the NRI who attended February’s session said that GSD was all serious fire and brimstone.

Very fitting. It is the end of days...

Posted by: Sonia | March 08, 2020 at 11:36 PM

@Sonia, Hi

SATSANGS:
At Satsangs he is always serious. Atleast in India. So nothing new ya. The degree varies from dead serious to super dead serious when he decides to hammer us all for not attending to our meditation and highlight how ungrateful we all are to that Almighty. Not one satsang of his where I havent had to hang my head in shame. You see I am an initiate of the worst kind. Maybe this NRI begins to realise this now.

Q&A:
Yes he has been sober during the Q&A's since his wife's demise. But that's on expected lines. This kind of stands out for his behavior / responses during Q&A bordered on over-indulgence. A shocking transformation in personality from satsangs earlier in the day. Hopefully he will be back to it soon.

And;
Honestly can't remember why I came up with 🌜🌞💥💖🦸🦂🐸🤶😈. But it was somehow connected with your posts then.

Sd/-

Sath_Path

What is Swami without Radha?

Posted by: Sonia | March 08, 2020 at 11:37 PM

@Sonia, Hi.

Not a worrisome question at all. Instead Radha should be shitting bricks on - What is Radha without Swami. As per Santmat - Radha is incomplete; even akin to a widow.

Oops but Santmat is just a myth accordingly to a knowledgeable source. LoL So this could be your comforter in time to come.

Sd/-

Sath_Path

Yes, 🌜🌞💥💖🦸🦂🐸🤶😈 is a mind reader. He is bewitching, beguiling and very dangerous indeed.

He’s like an orb spider on LSD. Don’t underestimate his abilities.

😉

Posted by: Sonia | March 08, 2020 at 11:09 PM

@Sonia, Hi.

Thank you for your kind words and lovely complements. Much appreciated for the complements season has been facing a severe drought for sometime now. 🤣🤣🤣

Sd/-

Sath_Path

He’s like an orb spider on LSD.

Posted by: Sonia | March 08, 2020 at 11:09 PM

I liked this the most. Just a small correction though - I am an orb spider on LSD

Sometime you should visit my website too.

@Spence , Trevor

Should I Repeat my little essay
"This is How it works : . . ."
title
"What would an All Powerful, all possessing Being . . still desire . . , YES. DESIRE. etc. "
for the Third time

but for not irritating Brian, you may google it
I will RE-place only on request!


777


"Mauj is an Urdu word, it means “wave, surge, enjoyment, ecstasy, caprice, plenty” in English."
said JEN

Bt look the indexes of Sant Mat books
"The Divine Order". or "Command"

so : the MauJ changed

Isn't that very clear today?

But if by chance you cross the Saint's Path
HE CAN CHANGE THAT

Rumi
"The Kings Falcon , without a reason; has landed on Your Shoulder"

777

Posted by: 💥 7💥 | March 08, 2020 at 01:20 PM

No @777. I disagree.

There is nothing like 'by chance' one crosses the path of a perfect master.

Even a casual glance by a passerby of a perfect master is because it has been first etched into that one's destiny by the Lord. Only then does this event occurs and the path is changed forever for even a passerby......

So magnificent is the benefit.

Sd/-

Sach_Path

It was Rumi paraphrased this time
it is in an earlier comment :
"When the ocean comes to you as a lover,"

I think we are both right , . . we 3

777

Sonia are you aware all satsangs in Dera have been cancelled due to the virus till May?

It's March 8, 2020. Tomorrow did come. Proof of calendars.

Posted by: anami | March 08, 2020 at 08:32 AM

Was it about proof of calendars? Not for me atleast.

And could it be tomorrow does not really exist until it becomes today? Just like this sentence didn't until I wrote it.

The Mauj is..''We have no free will''..
We think so,because we have to go trough a ''will' what is not ''ours''..
Very strange but so is the Mauj..
;0)
Really.
( I think and feel)


Sonia are you aware all satsangs in Dera have been cancelled due to the virus till May?

Posted by: Jen from Austin Texas | March 09, 2020 at 08:50 AM

Hi Jen,

I naturally assumed that to be the case.

My friend who went to the Feb session was allowed in because she left before getting the news that the session had been canceled. She’s an NRI and a little later they let some other NRIs in who arrived unaware the session was cancelled. They allowed them to stay and do seva.

I’m sure all sessions will be cancelled for the rest of 2020 and perhaps beyond for some time. Not to be all doom and gloom but this is only going to get worse before it gets better.

This is impacting everything. First of all, most of the people who attend Hostel 6 sessions are elderly. Second the airlines are struggling on so many fronts. Eventually when they say it’s safe to travel airfare will go up dramatically—much higher than we’re used to. Right now you can get tickets dirt cheap in a lot of airlines but that’s not going to last for long. Dera may have to cancel all its sessions for several years.

Bt look the indexes of Sant Mat books
"The Divine Order". or "Command"

so : the MauJ changed

Isn't that very clear today?

Posted by: 🌜🌞💥 7💥🌞🌜 | March 09, 2020 at 04:40 AM

Has 'The Divine Order' changed? What' bit has changed and to what?


Sonia are you aware all satsangs in Dera have been cancelled due to the virus till May?

Posted by: Jen from Austin Texas | March 09, 2020 at 08:50 AM

As of now it's till April actually. And this time it's for Indian sangat too.

@Sonia,

Cancellations lasting several years..... Na.

I also heard that they cancelled all US weekly Satsang and home Satsang meetings until further notice.

So much for using Satsang centers as a refuge for global crisis. I mean, it would help for victims of natural disasters who lost their homes, but a pandemic is another thing. Unless of course they eventually use them as temporary hospitals. Or for quarantines...

That would actually be very, very helpful. 🤔

If this virus kills .05 percent of the global population that would be approx 4 million people. Which may sound like a lot but it doesn’t live up to Biblical end of the world standards.

So, it’s NOT the end of times! 😃 We’re not all going to die!!!! Yayyyyyyyyy

That statistic just made my day. 🧟‍♀️

This is interesting too:

Globally, the World Health Organization (WHO) estimates that the flu kills 290,000 to 650,000 people per year.

So, wash your hands, don’t touch people and don’t panic. And save your newspapers! Apparently there’s a global shortage of toilet paper.

Of all things...

He’s like an orb spider on LSD.

Posted by: Sonia | March 08, 2020 at 11:09 PM

I liked this the most. Just a small correction though - I am an orb spider on LSD

Sometime you should visit my website too.

Posted by: 🌜🌞💥💖🦸🦂🐸🤶😈 | March 09, 2020 at 02:24 AM

What’s you’re web address?

BTW, GSD is coming to Fayetteville August 1st and 2nd. At least, I was just told by the “phone tree” that’s the plan for now. August 1st is His birthday and another good family friend. August 2nd is the birthday of the phone tree friend who just called me. August 3rd was my grandmother’s birthday, the 6th is another family member’s and the 9th is my Dad’s and another good friend.

Leos!!! 🦁

I find it strange that every single one of these people all share certain pronounced traits.

There has to be something more to the stars than just holes poked in the stratosphere so that we can breath. (That only makes sense if you’ve seen the Charlie Brown and snoopy meme 😊)

What is Swami without Radha?

Posted by: Sonia | March 08, 2020 at 11:37 PM

@Sonia, Hi.

Not a worrisome question at all. Instead Radha should be shitting bricks on - What is Radha without Swami. As per Santmat - Radha is incomplete; even akin to a widow.

Oops but Santmat is just a myth accordingly to a knowledgeable source. LoL So this could be your comforter in time to come.

Sd/-

Sath_Path

Posted by: 🌜🌞💥💖🦸🦂🐸🤶😈 | March 09, 2020 at 02:01 AM

You speak to me in riddles.
🤨

You already crossed the path of a true Saint. But you looked away.
So then you got the stage actor.
And now you are rock solid certain!

No one can doubt your love of the stage actor. They are God!

But where was your love before they were crowned?

So, it is the role you are in love with. The actor as actor. The pagentry! The spectacle! Look, there passes the holy of holies!

The person behind the role means nothing to you. Does anyone really care?

Where was your love before they were assigned?

Face it. You are just loving yourself. Why not just do that?

And leave God to the mystics and the true Saints.

Wave your little colored flag at the prom king and queen.

@ 🌜🌞💥💖🦸🦂🐸🤶😈

There’s nothing comfortable about this world. You know continuously amazes me over and over and over and over and over again??? How little you know me.

Just when I think you understand, just when I think you’ve finally gotten it, I realize you don’t know. I should be the guru because you are CLUELESS.

@ 🌜🌞💥💖🦸🦂🐸🤶😈

Ignore my last statement, it’s not you. It’s everything.

@ When there is an actor, everyone then becomes an actor.

Maybe my reference to Shakespeare's "The play's the thing"
was a bit obscure. That quote comes from Hamlet who inserts
a few telltale lines in a play to elicit the truth about whether
his uncle, who's in the audience, murdered his father.

Thus the stage actor's ruse initiates the real drama and the rest
of the cast unwittingly play their roles, all in a grander drama to
find the truth. So, when the curtain falls, there's value to the stage
actor going off-script if the truth is at long last revealed. The role
of the mystic stage actor has become a magnificent one.

And leave God to the mystics and the true Saints.

Posted by: Spence Tepper | March 09, 2020 at 04:31 PM

Stop thy rants I sayth

For I belong to My Creation and not to the mystics and certainly not to who YOU believe are true saints.

My Creation is a Stage .... You dare forget this for even a moment.


I am an orb spider on LSD. Sometime you should visit my website too.

Posted by: 🌜🌞💥💖🦸🦂🐸🤶😈 | March 09, 2020 at 02:24 AM

What’s you’re web address?

Posted by: Sonia | March 09, 2020 at 02:07 PM

https://www.pinterest.com/pin/278730664412936126/?%24ios_deeplink_path=pinterest%3A%2F%2Fpin%2F278730664412936126&%24android_deeplink_path=pinterest%3A%2F%2Fpin%2F278730664412936126&amp_client_id=amp-dAaz9bfrKc-eG8EA_EVXUw&utm_source=168&utm_medium=2160&current_page_url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.pinterest.com%2Fmfenguita%2Finternet%2F&install_id=4566e0ee98c4468682c7750a29a3ff61&%24fallback_url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.pinterest.com%2Fpin%2F278730664412936126%2F&_branch_match_id=765782949616594890

Take care.

Sd/-

Sath_Path


Stop thy rants I sayth

For I belong to My Creation and not to the mystics and certainly not to who YOU believe are true saints.

My Creation is a Stage .... You dare forget this for even a moment.

Posted by: The One who humans call GOD | March 09, 2020 at 09:12 PM

Hey, wait a minute. I don’t know who you think you are but this is MY creation. Actually, this is like the ghetto (I’m not taking credit for this shit hole part of the universe) but the original creation project was pretty amazing. Then you get one bad subcontractor and everything goes to hell...

@ Hey, wait a minute. I don’t know who you think you are but this is MY creation.
@ Actually, this is like the ghetto (I’m not taking credit for this shit hole part of the
@ universe) but the original creation project was pretty amazing. Then you get one
@ bad subcontractor and everything goes to hell...

Sonia... love it :)

https://www.pinterest.com/pin/278730664412936126/?%24ios_deeplink_path=pinterest%3A%2F%2Fpin%2F278730664412936126&%24android_deeplink_path=pinterest%3A%2F%2Fpin%2F278730664412936126&amp_client_id=amp-dAaz9bfrKc-eG8EA_EVXUw&utm_source=168&utm_medium=2160&current_page_url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.pinterest.com%2Fmfenguita%2Finternet%2F&install_id=4566e0ee98c4468682c7750a29a3ff61&%24fallback_url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.pinterest.com%2Fpin%2F278730664412936126%2F&_branch_match_id=765782949616594890

Take care.

Sd/-

Sath_Path


Posted by: 🌜🌞💥💖🦸🦂🐸🤶😈 | March 09, 2020 at 10:21 PM

That looks dangerous. Doesn’t look like you have many “guests”. Hostages but no guests. Have you considered inviting someone over without scaring the shit out of them first??? I hear that works really well. Your hosting skills leave a lot to be desired. But I believe in you. You can do it!!

And remember the chai!

Not a worrisome question at all. Instead Radha should be shitting bricks on - What is Radha without Swami. As per Santmat - Radha is incomplete; even akin to a widow.

Oops but Santmat is just a myth accordingly to a knowledgeable source. LoL So this could be your comforter in time to come.

Sd/-

Sath_Path

Posted by: 🌜🌞💥💖🦸🦂🐸🤶😈 | March 09, 2020 at 02:01 AM

Well, maybe I’m a black widow.

This sounds about right:

“The Black Widow spider does not spin the pretty webs, instead she will spin the thick jumbles looking cobweb. These webs catch beetles, flies, grasshoppers, moths and other spiders. These spiders, although a little scary, have enemies, as well.”

I don’t know why I’m harassing you so much today... but carry on with your fancy web spinning.

1) Hey, wait a minute. I don’t know who you think you are

2) this is MY creation.

Posted by: Sonia | March 09, 2020 at 10:36 PM

On point 1.... Keep it that wsy because I am way beyond mankind's comprehension.

On point 2...... I could exercise one of the two options with me. First, let you carry on with the notion that it's your creation. So basically maintain status quo or second, actually discard this creation in your favour. Anyways it's just one of my numerous creations and one which doesn't make me feel proud - especially the human race there.

Will let you know shortly (measured on my timescale)

And leave God to the mystics and the true Saints.

Posted by: Spence Tepper | March 09, 2020 at 04:31 PM

Stop thy rants I sayth

For I belong to My Creation and not to the mystics and certainly not to who YOU believe are true saints.

My Creation is a Stage .... You dare forget this for even a moment.

Posted by: The One who humans call GOD | March 09, 2020 at 09:12 PM

Rest assured GOD even you shall be preached - about how wrong or little is your understanding about yourself and your physical manifestation on Earth.

1) Hey, wait a minute. I don’t know who you think you are

2) this is MY creation.

Posted by: Sonia | March 09, 2020 at 10:36 PM

On point 1.... Keep it that wsy because I am way beyond mankind's comprehension.

On point 2...... I could exercise one of the two options with me. First, let you carry on with the notion that it's your creation. So basically maintain status quo or second, actually discard this creation in your favour. Anyways it's just one of my numerous creations and one which doesn't make me feel proud - especially the human race there.

Will let you know shortly (measured on my timescale)
Posted by: The One who humans call GOD | March 10, 2020 at 01:20 AM

🤣🤣🤣

I SERIOUSLY hope you’re joking about ALL of this. I WAS!!! 🤣🤣🤣

Will let you know shortly (measured on my timescale)
Posted by: The One who humans call GOD | March 10, 2020 at 01:20 AM

Well, by all means please do exercise option 2. I hate it here.

Well, maybe I’m a black widow. This sounds about right:
Posted by: Sonia | March 10, 2020 at 12:51 AM

Daddy long-legs spider at Beas is keeping a watch on you.

@The One who humans call GOD

Wait a minute, I don’t think we’re on the same page here...

Don’t discard this place in my favour. I don’t want it. Very ghetto here. It’s run its course. You don’t strike me as the slumlord type (“your” other real estate is much more desirable) so either you’ll renovate or tear down and build something else.

Either way, leave me out of it.

At the end of the day you’re going to do whatever it is you want to do. But don’t let things get out of hand again like they did with this last development. 🤭

https://veblr.com/m/watch/36149c967437cd/coronavirus-cancel-dera-beas

Well, maybe I’m a black widow. This sounds about right:
Posted by: Sonia | March 10, 2020 at 12:51 AM

Daddy long-legs spider at Beas is keeping a watch on you.

Posted by: The Brazilian Wanderer | March 10, 2020 at 10:24 AM

😂

I could take that a couple of ways. Either he’s cautiously looking out for himself, or he’s looking out for me.

I’ve decided to go a more natural approach and have given up pest control. Maybe zero landscaping or only planting native species. Not sure which.

I was listening to an entomologist and ethicist on NPR today. Got me thinking about what’s natural, what’s healthy and what’s not.

Rest assured GOD even you shall be preached - about how wrong or little is your understanding about yourself and your physical manifestation on Earth.

Posted by: John Cooper | March 10, 2020 at 06:00 AM

Hahaha.

John, you state the obvious. Sermonizing God is bound to happen, with large portion thereof dedicated to true saints vs stage actors.

Well, maybe I’m a black widow. This sounds about right:
Posted by: Sonia | March 10, 2020 at 12:51 AM

Daddy long-legs spider at Beas is keeping a watch on you.

Posted by: The Brazilian Wanderer | March 10, 2020 at 10:24 AM

Is it the International Day of Spiders today with we having four varieties already amongst us namely

Orb
Black widow
Daddy long-legs
The Brazilian Wandering

The last two being of special interest to me. The Brazilian Wandering spider - the world's most dangerous (apparently even more than the second listed) and ofcourse Daddy Long-legs who are reported to feed enthusiastically on black widows.

SSonia claimed :
I don’t believe in God. I’ve never seen any proof.

That would be a rather stupid God
,if you could figure Him out

🌜🌞💥 7💥🌞🌜!!!

Daddy Long-legs who are reported to feed enthusiastically on black widows.

Posted by: Trevor Smith | March 10, 2020 at 01:42 PM

What??? 🧐 Hmm. I didn’t realize that. Well, what clever little commenters we are. 🤨 And I just wrote that 🕷 a really long letter...

Oh well. I’m going home now.

Side note from treehugger.com:

It's a delicate ecosystem we live in and most of its parts are connected – remove one player and the repercussions can can ripple out to all corners. Consider honeybees and the fact that around one-third of the food we eat comes courtesy, one way or another, through the pollination afforded by them.

Spiders do many good deeds for us squeamish humans, one of their main contributions is their appetite for insects. One spider eats 2,000 other insects a year, insects that would be otherwise eating our food crops.

“If spiders disappeared, we would face famine,” says Norman Platnick, who studies arachnids at New York’s American Museum of Natural History. “Spiders are primary controllers of insects. Without spiders, all of our crops would be consumed by those pests.”

@ I don’t believe in God. I’ve never seen any proof.

@@ That would be a rather stupid God , if you could figure Him out.

A brutal mystic might counter it's the other way around
without "figuring" yourself out first. What within you does
the figuring and where did it go wrong...

1)The person behind the role means nothing to you. Does anyone really care?

2) Where was your love before they were assigned?

3) Wave your little colored flag at the prom king and queen.

Posted by: Spence Tepper | March 09, 2020 at 04:31 PM

1) On this world stage, sheer stupidity if the person/individual begins to matter.

2) My/our love is always with me/us, before and even after. And btw they come already assigned!!!!

3) better to wave little coloured flags, knowingly, at the prom king/queen, than be under a misplaced belief of who a true saint is.

You already crossed the path of a true Saint. But you looked away.
So then you got the stage actor.

Posted by: Spence Tepper | March 09, 2020 at 04:31 PM

Really did we??? Amazing. How do you know this? Aaah, because the individual we have doesn't fit your bill of who a true saint is. Are you the enlightened one to proclaim this?

And of course the true saints you surround yourself with aren't actors cast in a role. Right. I hope they aren't soon Don't tell me reel actors much worse than the ones on stage.

Laughable. Can you put an end to this display of stupidity in your posts.

https://phys.org/news/2020-03-mystery-expansion-universe.html

One mystery solved!
Why is thy universe expanding at different rates, depending upon how you measure it?

Physics professor Lucas Lombriser has come up with an elegant explanation: the measures using microwave radiation around us are part of a bubble 250 light years in diameter. But the reference "candles" stars that are used in the second method are outside this bubble.

If the density of Matter within the bubble is half that of matter outside of it, there is a 95%, or three sigma, confidence interval that the two different rates of expansion would both be accurate.

Yes people say I'm living in a bubble. It's true. But so are you!

In other words, if you apply force to mass you get acceleration. Twice the acceleration with half the mass. If you throw two stones one with twice the mass of the other, the stone with less mass will accelerate faster than the other stone with greater mass. If you use the same horsepower to pull half the load, you will accelerate twice as fast.

@Spence

The universe is breathing. Inhale... exhale...

😊


I like the idea of unicorns. 😊

🦄🦄🦄

Posted by: Sonia | March 07, 2020 at 09:01 PM

The Lernaean Hydra is so much better.

And in real life the spider and it's web.

Posted by: Trevor Smith | March 08, 2020 at 09:46 AM

Oh my... how did I miss this gem??

I see you like Greek dramas. I hope you do realize that my fantasy world of unicorns, rainbows, fairies and mystical enchantment is a far distant universe to your Greek drama fantasy. I’ll be chasing stars and riding moon beams while you’re busy slaying a gruesome poly-headed beast with the help of Iolaus. But remember, the Hydra did get its revenge in the end. Such is the fate of a satisfying Greek tragedy.

I’ll let you in on a little secret, I’m a lover not a fighter. 🤫

As for 🕷 🕷 🕷... the truth is, I’ve been bitten by every poisonous variety native to North America. Some pretty nasty bites and urgent care visits. I’m even allergic to several of the garden variety type that are deemed “harmless”.

In short, spiders don’t like me. They keep me from fully enjoying nature in this world.

The Most Fascinating and Luxurious
aspect of being The Anahabad Shabd
is that you can save from Chaurasi
in a flash all Jeevas you want to save

Delicious is that
starting with giving them the necessary desire to be saved
OMG
What a Path, the Beas Path


777

Speaking of Greek tragedies... Pandora has been wrecking havoc lately. Pretty sure I got the Covid-19 and survived by some twist of fate. I went to see my doctor and he treated me for what appeared to be a bad Sjögrens flare up (I have Sjögrens—usually I don’t have serious symptoms). Anyway, he put me on hydroxychloroquine which for some unknown reason treats Sjögrens and Lupus and RA as well as Malaria. They have used it to treat viruses in past as last resort because the high dosages required can cause liver damage.

So, long story short, soon after the medicine started to relieve my Sjögrens symptoms I fell ill will flu—the absolute worst flu I’ve ever had. So, I tripled my hydroxychloroquine dosage (which is a bit much) and it killed whatever horrible virus I had. Of course, my dad got sick a few days later and stubbornly refuses to go get tested so he’s been ill for about 2 weeks now. He got a script for Tamiflu from a doctor friend without being properly tested. He’s still sick... and stubborn.

In China they are mass producing a form of hydroxychloroquine — actually just chloroquine and having positive results.

Bottom line, be cautious but don’t panic. But don’t be like my dad and DO get treatment!!

Now that I’m pretty sure I’ve built up an immunity to it, I’m free to roam. 🤪

Also, there are things one can take to counter the negative effects chloroquine may have on the liver. Ever since China start using chloroquine to treat people, their rates of new cases and deaths have fallen dramatically.

Read about it!

True Saints are themselves. They dress like you and I. They don't act on stage. They don't ask you to parade your issues, display your suffering in front of others. They don't wear a turban or robes to show how holy they are. They aren't putting on a show when they come to town. They already live where you live.

True Saints don't tell a crowd about the personal love and intimacy with them, and point to books with stories about the personal relationship of a beloved Saint and their beloved Disciple, and then explain why that isn't possible for you.

True Songs actually become your friend. You can actually go to their home and when you invite them, they come to yours. Just like a real human being. It's what human beings do.

Stage actors say ".. But you don't need a personal relationship with the Master.... You already have a spiritual relationship with the Master.. So don't bring me your personal problems... That's reserved for only those closest to Master, those who have earned that relationship after lifetimes of work, and the Master's Grace. And don't send me personal letters. I throw those out. And Children? Keep them away. I don't listen to their questions... Unless they are in the inner circle.... "

True Saints are your friend. They listen to whatever you have to say. They offer whatever they have. They love kids. They enjoy children. They honor children as full human beings in their own right, and they have relationships with children that erase barriers of age, title and position.

Raise you standard. You were meant for more than simply being in the audience of a show with stage actors. It's your life.


@ Now that I’m pretty sure I’ve built up an immunity to it, I’m free to roam

I heard the word reinfection mentioned on some report.
Maybe they were talking about risks of a mutant strain
arising though.

@ Spence

Does a true saint knows he is a saint?
If so, how does he know?

Hi Um
You ask
"Does a true saint knows he is a saint?
If so, how does he know?"

They would never use the title 'True Saint.'

They never refer to themselves as a Saint.

They know God, they worship God within 24x7 in His Temple, and they are one with every aspect of the inner path 24x7.

And they know about their friends' condition, their friends ' blindness, and inability to hear. They know their inner state.

The True Saints serve their friends as they would a beloved spouse, a beloved brother, sister, child or parent.they serve and heal sick children.

In their presence, their friends hear Shabd ringing clearly day and night. In their presence, their friends see the radiant form of their friend, not just within, but simply looking at their Friend!

In their presence, their friends are drawn to meditation, and in meditation go up to the highest regions, in the company of their Friend. It's not a long journey at all. But sustaining there amidst life's challenges is a lifetime's work. So the friendships are long term friendships.

In their presence, their friends are One. They forget about themselves and only want to help others. They have merged with Shabd, which gives life to all creatures, and so they feel an affinity with all creatures, and want to help as best they can, whenever they can.

The True Saints have become water. They are transparent, one with all nature, and all because they have merged with the ocean. They are the ocean. This they know. But since we are all in that same ocean,though blind and deaf, we are all part of the One. So there are no titles.

@Dungeness

This may be what you read (this one reported from Fortune.com but many news outlets repeat the same news):

“Being reinfected with COVID-19 is possible, said Sharon Lewin, director of the Peter Doherty Institute for Infection and Immunity in Melbourne, but such an instance would be “surprising.” It’s possible that patients are not actually being reinfected, but that other factors—misdiagnosis, human error, or faulty tests—are giving that appearance.

Testing done with animal models for SARS, a similar coronavirus, indicates that patients who recover from the disease will have immunity from it. “From what we know of other coronaviruses, you recover, you make an antibody response, and you clear the virus, and then if you rechallenge the animal with the same virus they’re protected,” Lewin said.

Lewin put stocks in explanations other than reinfection, but she emphasized that the virus still has too many unknowns and there are too few reported twice-positive cases to conduct a study or draw a definitive conclusion.”

I have two autoimmune diseases that, as strange as it may sound, are not too problematic if treated properly. But if I don’t take care of my self then they certainly can get out of control.

The virus flu I had hit me really hard because I was just beginning to recover from a very serious and systemic Sjögrens flare coupled with Hashimotos flare (they typically act up at the same time). So, my immune system was still extremely compromised and I honestly felt like I needed to be hospitalized. I’m sure I would have been if I hadn’t had the medication... as well as taking 600mg/day (which is a lot).

Theoretically I should have an antibody response. Whatever I had, the symptoms were the exact same as they are listing for COVID-19.

My dad is at the point where he’s starting to develop pneumonia type symptoms. It’s so ridiculous that he won’t go to the doctor but he says he’s afraid they’ll tell him he has the virus. Honestly, it’s NOT a death sentence unless you ignore symptoms. But he thinks it is. And my mom has adopted some sort of Christian Science approach to healing... so, I don’t know.

Also, there are things one can take to counter the negative effects chloroquine may have on the liver. Ever since China start using chloroquine to treat people, their rates of new cases and deaths have fallen dramatically.

Read about it!

Posted by: Sonia | March 11, 2020 at 02:21 PM


https://factcheck.afp.com/chloroquine-has-not-been-approved-treatment-covid-19

True Saints don't reject the disabled. They befriend them. They see everyone imprisoned by their limitations and feel great compassion. We are all the same, working to shed the layers.

True Saints desire to remove all barriers between people, by helping their friends remove the barriers within themselves and the divine living principle within. They make such barriers invisible, powerless, meaningless. They invite the disabled to their parties. They will have a refugee family over for Thanksgiving dinner. Their company is sanctuary, filled with the divine music of the spheres, each room radiant and made of windows to the sky.

What makes them perfect, besides the fact that they are the Word, is that they have no standards. All are equal, all are welcome. All are perfect as they are, to their new Friend. They make friends of people in all conditions, and make them perfect instantly by having no standard, no conditions for friendship. No rules for initiation. No initiation. All are accepted. And this is what makes them perfect. That they receive, and serve their friends as Perfect just as they are, including children. Children are not immature, partial adults. They are full and perfect human beings as they are right now.

This is what God In Human Form looks like.

Well, I don’t want to sound like a conspiracy theorist but I almost think China doesn’t want the rest of the world to know how effective chloroquine is in treating COVID-19. They’ve been rapidly producing mass quantities of the drug recently and ever since they started that their infectious rates and fatalities from the virus have been falling fast.

https://www.clinicaltrialsarena.com/news/coronavirus-covid-19-choroquine-data/

@Trevor

China is finally getting its outbreak under control.

https://www.shine.cn/biz/economy/2002202403/

However, I’m sure they are more concerned about their own people. In fact, a sacrifice of 3,000 citizens is nothing compared to what damage the COVID-19 can have on the global community.

Sorry, but I work for an American organization that monitors and targets Chinese propaganda and they’re really jaded. Perhaps it’s rubbing off on me.

@ Spence

You did not answer my questions. You gave attributes as you see them.

The baker knows because he has mastered a craft, he learned from someone.
The king knows he is a king because he inherited the throne, was educated as such and accepted by his subjects.
Etc.

Again:
Does a true saint knows he is a saint?
If so, how does he know?


Hi Um
I apologize. I didn't understand your question.

Your focus on this question is interesting. Water is water. Only those who are not water, looking in from the outside, try to judge, and seek out human verification.

But the real test is meeting with the ocean. Merging with the ocean.

Become one with what you love. Then you have become the thing you are pointing to. And that thing within you will draw you forth.

The Saint knows they are one with the Lord, with Shabd and the highest regions. It is there experience. And when their friends reach this state, they know too.

And their daily work confirms the power they wield in the service of the Father.

Your question is really about how they got there. But you will see that regardless of how they got there the answer to the question of how they know where they are is the same. And the only real answer to anyone else is the same : merge with that, become that.

You wrote...

"The baker knows because he has mastered a craft, he learned from someone.

" The king knows he is a king because he inherited the throne, was educated as such and accepted by his subjects.
Etc.

"Again:
" Does a true saint knows he is a saint?
If so, how does he know?"

Being a student is not a qualifier for graduation. But all of us have our teachers. The True Saint has A True Saint as mentor. Yes.

Having a degree is no evidence that one has mastered their work.

You may refer to Steve Jobs and Bill Gates on that point.

And you may refer to the Varsity Blues scandel to see how degrees can be bought and sold even in the most prestigious organizations.

And while those they serve can attest to it, they are not necessarily the best judges of exactly how advanced their friend really is. Their Friend works with scrupulous focus to eliminate the pedestals, the stage, and never allows that to enter even the minds of their friends. We are all the same at the core.

In the question you ask is the very flaw of the Stage Actors. Their followers need to put them up on stage. They want that distance. And they allow it.

A true Saint dispenses with that at once. They only promise Friendship, ever-abiding, under all circumstances. And naturally we work to reciprocate that friendship. We discover who they are as we develop, as we become that.

When you realize how empty and misleading titles, lineages and organizations are, you will wear that out. If not this life, the next.

Again:
Does a true saint knows he is a saint?
If so, how does he know?


Posted by: um | March 12, 2020 at 03:34 AM

Of course he knows. But only after a Spence certifies that he is one.

One mystery solved!
Why is thy universe expanding at different rates, depending upon how you measure it?

Physics professor Lucas Lombriser has come up with an elegant explanation: the measures using microwave radiation around us are part of a bubble 250 light years in diameter. But the reference "candles" stars that are used in the second method are outside this bubble.

If the density of Matter within the bubble is half that of matter outside of it, there is a 95%, or three sigma, confidence interval that the two different rates of expansion would both be accurate.

Yes people say I'm living in a bubble. It's true. But so are you!

Posted by: Spence Tepper | March 10, 2020 at 08:04 PM

Mystery solved!! Is it? One of the biggest challenge among astrophysicists, cosmologists and others studying the universe solved and no newspaper carries this discovery as it's headlines!

Isn't it a 'hypothesis' advanced by this theoretical physicist?..And what's a hypothesis? Hypothesis means a supposition or proposed explanation made on the basis of limited evidence as a starting point for further investigation. But hey for you it is - the Mystery solved.

Further as per the article,

"IF we were in a kind of gigantic 'bubble,'" states this professor. Funny you read this to mean we are in a bubble 250 light years in diameter(actually it's 250million light years per the article).

Then, IF the density was 50% less blah blah.

Jeez so many if's...... But hey the challenge has been solved so elegantly. LoL

Interestingly the paper titles as "Consistency of the local Hubble constant with the cosmic microwave background". But probably it's been wrongly titled as you must rightly state there is a 95%, or three sigma, confidence interval that the 'two different rates' of expansion would 'both be accurate'.

Any scientific basis to back up your assertion? Even thisvphysicist agreeing will do.

The two rates you refer to I presume are the ones based on CMB and local method. But what about the third rate? I am sure the knowledgeable you must be aware of the existence of a third rate too.

Bottom line, certainly you live in a bubble but not us and your oblivity numbs common sense.

Secure site now? :)

I always notice those things. 👏

@ spence

In the "Gospel of St John", Chapter 5 starting with verse 31, page 42, Christ discusses that we only know who a person is for sure etc when there are at least 2 witnesses.

the explanations of MCS are interesting read ….


Hi Um
I'm not sure if John says what you say. There were many witnesses, but people still didn't believe..
"43 I am come in my Father's name, and ye receive me not: if another shall come in his own name, him ye will receive.

44 How can ye believe, which receive honour one of another, and seek not the honour that cometh from God only?

45 Do not think that I will accuse you to the Father: there is one that accuseth you, even Moses, in whom ye trust.

46 For had ye believed Moses, ye would have believed me; for he wrote of me.

47 But if ye believe not his writings, how shall ye believe my words?"
John 5: 42-47

One more point to consider.
Christ doesn't praise his predecessor as God. He comes to witness to the Father, not his own teacher as God.

" 36 But I have greater witness than that of John: for the works which the Father hath given me to finish, the same works that I do, bear witness of me, that the Father hath sent me.

37 And the Father himself, which hath sent me, hath borne witness of me. Ye have neither heard his voice at any time, nor seen his shape.

38 And ye have not his word abiding in you: for whom he hath sent, him ye believe not."
John 5: 36-38

The greatest witness is the experience of the Word in the presence of our Friend. That is the Father's own testimony.

"43 I am come in my Father's name, and ye receive me not: if another shall come in his own name, him ye will receive."
John 5: 43

This is what the stage actors do. They come in their own name.

Hi Trevor
Here are quotes from the article
"The mystery of Universe expansion has been finally solved. ... Existing H0 estimates lie around 70 (km/s)/Mpc (meaning that the universe is expanding 70 kilometers a second more quickly every 3.26 million light-years)."

"Lucas Lombriser, a professor in the Theoretical Physics Department in UNIGE's Faculty of Sciences, explains: "These two values carried on becoming more precise for many years while remaining different from each other. It didn't take much to spark a scientific controversy and even to arouse the exciting hope that we were perhaps dealing with a 'new physics.'" To narrow the gap, professor Lombriser entertained the idea that the universe is not as homogeneous as claimed, a hypothesis that may seem obvious on relatively modest scales. There is no doubt that matter is distributed differently inside a galaxy than outside one. It is more difficult, however, to imagine fluctuations in the average density of matter calculated on volumes thousands of times larger than a galaxy.

The "Hubble Bubble"

"If we were in a kind of gigantic 'bubble,'" continues professor Lombriser, "where the density of matter was significantly lower than the known density for the entire universe, it would have consequences on the distances of supernovae and, ultimately, on determining H0."

"All that would be needed would be for this "Hubble bubble" to be large enough to include the galaxy that serves as a reference for measuring distances. By establishing a diameter of 250 million light years for this bubble, the physicist calculated that if the density of matter inside was 50% lower than for the rest of the universe, a new value would be obtained for the Hubble constant, which would then agree with the one obtained using the cosmic microwave background. "The probability that there is such a fluctuation on this scale is one in 20 to one in 5, which means that it is not a theoretician's fantasy. There are a lot of regions like ours in the vast universe," says professor Lombriser.. "

Early Wu style taijiquan (1937)

Classic go with the flow. Here, no concept is needed.

Don't miss training exercises.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yDaV9C0ERP8

Hi Um
One more point from John 5...
"41 “I do not accept glory from human beings, 42 but I know you. I know that you do not have the love of God in your hearts. 4"

Jesus says he does not accept glory from human beings.
No human titles. No official kingship, no human authorized position. No throne, no stage.

OK Bubble Heads,

Quick question, when Julian Johnson describes all those inner regions in his book, did he “go in” to go OUT to see all those regions?? I mean, those stars and galaxies and all that space stuff... where does that lead? Just something I’ve always wondered...

And just BTW, I finally got my dad to take the hydroxychloroquine after nearly two weeks and it is the only thing that has worked. He’s getting better. It only takes 3 or 4 days.

Then my mom came home really sick today. Although she has a very Christian Science approach to taking medicine, after she saw how well my dad was doing in the medicine and how awful she was feeling she asked if she could take the medicine. And this is a woman who just had surgery on her eyes without any anesthesia or pain medicine!! She refused to let them give her medicine. Crazy. The only reason she finally relented to having the surgery is because she can barely see to drive.

China claims it has successfully contained the outbreak of the coronavirus through strict quarantine. But that’s only half true. So, it’s not true.

Hi Trevor
Here are quotes from the article.....

Posted by: Spence Tepper | March 12, 2020 at 03:57 PM

Certainly not my requirement. But this might help you in case you decide to read it a couple of times to understand what it says. Maybe then your disconnect would dawn on you.

And in case you have answers to a couple of questions I asked, do revert. A lack of specific revert ------> ignorance.

Jesus says he does not accept glory from human beings.

Posted by: Spence Tepper | March 12, 2020 at 05:41 PM

Thanks for bringing to light the biggest fraudster in human history - Jesus Christ.

Read again proclaimers of true saints and those very same who place that Jesus Christ as one.

Jesus does not accept glory from humans!!!! Wow.

Who the f*$# did he think he was when he uttered this demeaning/arrogant statement? And I thought True Saints are humility personified and never ever even acknowledge that they are true saints. And here he distinguishes himself as being not a human.

Amazing hypocrisy!!!!!!!

One alleged true saint gone down the drain. Anymore @ Spence ??

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