Comments on Why the RSSB guru has broken an initiate's heartTypePad2019-12-04T02:49:15ZBrian Hineshttps://hinessight.blogs.com/church_of_the_churchless/tag:typepad.com,2003:https://hinessight.blogs.com/church_of_the_churchless/2019/12/why-the-rssb-guru-has-broken-an-initiates-heart/comments/atom.xml/pooh commented on 'Why the RSSB guru has broken an initiate's heart'tag:typepad.com,2003:6a00d83451c0aa69e202c8d3aea9f0200d2024-03-24T02:57:46Z2024-03-24T04:38:24Zpoohgood<p>good</p>Raam Jaani commented on 'Why the RSSB guru has broken an initiate's heart'tag:typepad.com,2003:6a00d83451c0aa69e20240a4f49b27200b2019-12-08T22:51:19Z2019-12-08T22:51:19ZRaam Jaani“The RSSB has not taken a single paisa from the Singh brothers, you can check our records. Neither the dera...<p>“The RSSB has not taken a single paisa from the Singh brothers, you can check our records. Neither the dera nor Babaji like giving clarifications. We believe that ultimately the truth will come out.’’</p>
<p>This is typical diversion speak. Sethi is defending a made up statement, instead of the real allegation. <br />
The real allegation that the Dhillons were given money simply cannot be denied and GSD has himself admitted it even if he called it a gift.</p>
<p>so the Singh brothers gave the Dhillons a gift of multi millions and made them into billionaires and the ungrateful Gurinder Singh Dhillon who claims to be a master says that the singh's still OWN HIM money ? as in MORE money</p>
<p>I really dont understand how the people who made him into a billioniare family can still own him more money</p>
<p>obviously a lie and if he is so honest why not appear in court and tell the truth.</p>
<p>I will tell you exactly why. there is no truth to tell except that he took part in fraud and that makes him an accomplice in the fraud and makes him a criminal.</p>
<p>can a baba be a criminal?<br />
well these days it appears yes</p>
<p>if you can grab land from poor farmers and accept free gifts and make death threats and never return money and tell lies and be ungrateful to those who give you millions <br />
that is a full qualification to be a baba</p>Sonia commented on 'Why the RSSB guru has broken an initiate's heart'tag:typepad.com,2003:6a00d83451c0aa69e20240a4a6cbd2200c2019-12-08T21:21:35Z2019-12-08T23:12:10ZSonia20 million followers? I thought it was 4M... How many people has Gurinder initiated???<p>20 million followers? I thought it was 4M... How many people has Gurinder initiated???</p>j commented on 'Why the RSSB guru has broken an initiate's heart'tag:typepad.com,2003:6a00d83451c0aa69e20240a4a6c45f200c2019-12-08T19:29:39Z2019-12-08T23:12:10Zj"Mention the case to Sethi of the RSSB Trust and he bristles. “The RSSB has not taken a single paisa...<p>"Mention the case to Sethi of the RSSB Trust and he bristles. “The RSSB has not taken a single paisa from the Singh brothers, you can check our records."</p>
<p>Who said they did, Sethi? No one is alleging that the RSSB trust was involved in this scandal. The general allegation is that Gurinder Singh was a party to the siphoning of money from the Singh brother's corporation into accounts owned by himself and his family members. </p>A Different Brian commented on 'Why the RSSB guru has broken an initiate's heart'tag:typepad.com,2003:6a00d83451c0aa69e20240a4a6bff5200c2019-12-08T18:29:27Z2019-12-08T23:12:10ZA Different BrianHere’s a new article I saw today. Nothing new here, but the Dera is getting more and more to. https://indianexpress.com/article/india/the-dera-by-the-beas-6155961/<p>Here’s a new article I saw today. Nothing new here, but the Dera is getting more and more to.<br />
<a href="https://indianexpress.com/article/india/the-dera-by-the-beas-6155961/" rel="nofollow">https://indianexpress.com/article/india/the-dera-by-the-beas-6155961/</a><br />
</p>George commented on 'Why the RSSB guru has broken an initiate's heart'tag:typepad.com,2003:6a00d83451c0aa69e20240a4a6a266200c2019-12-08T11:50:19Z2019-12-08T23:12:10ZGeorgeLatest News Articles : Mortal remains of Radha Soami sect chief''s wife consigned to flames https://www.outlookindia.com/newsscroll/mortal-remains-of-radha-soami-sect-chiefs-wife-consigned-to-flames/1679662 The dera by the...<p>Latest News Articles :</p>
<p>Mortal remains of Radha Soami sect chief''s wife consigned to flames</p>
<p><a href="https://www.outlookindia.com/newsscroll/mortal-remains-of-radha-soami-sect-chiefs-wife-consigned-to-flames/1679662" rel="nofollow">https://www.outlookindia.com/newsscroll/mortal-remains-of-radha-soami-sect-chiefs-wife-consigned-to-flames/1679662</a></p>
<p>The dera by the Beas</p>
<p><a href="https://indianexpress.com/article/india/the-dera-by-the-beas-6155961/" rel="nofollow">https://indianexpress.com/article/india/the-dera-by-the-beas-6155961/</a></p>Sonia commented on 'Why the RSSB guru has broken an initiate's heart'tag:typepad.com,2003:6a00d83451c0aa69e20240a4a69452200c2019-12-08T07:55:39Z2019-12-08T07:55:39ZSoniaCompletely agree. But then if humans start this worship despite the teacher/master saying not to who/what is insane? The act...<p>Completely agree. But then if humans start this worship despite the teacher/master saying not to who/what is insane? The act of worship or the worshippers or the worshipped?</p>
<p>And do you recollect what the RSSB masters have to say about worshipping them or who or what is truly worthy of being worshipped?</p>
<p>Posted by: Gurus Inc | December 07, 2019 at 07:58 PM</p>
<p><br />
So, you’re saying that the RS masters told their followers not to worship them? If that is the case then why do almost all satsangis say “Babaji is God”. We all have the same life force within us so the mindset of raising one person to being “more God” than everyone else seems counter to believing we all have that same “divine spark”. </p>
<p>It might help if the masters said, I am not “God” anymore than you are. </p>Sonia commented on 'Why the RSSB guru has broken an initiate's heart'tag:typepad.com,2003:6a00d83451c0aa69e20240a4f45c4f200b2019-12-08T07:40:31Z2019-12-08T07:40:31ZSonia@Lost Friend Umm... I think I used Sonya B once or twice—mostly Sonya. I used to always spell my name...<p>@Lost Friend</p>
<p>Umm... I think I used Sonya B once or twice—mostly Sonya. I used to always spell my name with a j (Sonja) and then when I got married I changed it to a y (don’t ask me why). Now I spell it with an “i” because apparently “y” makes my name very numerologically unfortunate (and it certainly felt that way) whereas Sonia is the exact opposite—supposed to be more fortunate. </p>
<p>Whether you believe in numerology or not, for me, it was largely just to start afresh in my life with a completely different attitude and philosophy. Throwing away the old... what was no longer useful. </p>
<p>I’m focused on the Eleventh Step Prayer. It’s a life long process (especially for me) but I realize it’s what was really missing from my life.</p>Gurus Inc commented on 'Why the RSSB guru has broken an initiate's heart'tag:typepad.com,2003:6a00d83451c0aa69e20240a4cfae54200d2019-12-08T04:20:07Z2019-12-08T04:20:07ZGurus IncDear messenger Dassan Dass You say "The collapse of Radha Swami has started. These are not Dassan Dass’s wordS, it...<p>Dear messenger Dassan Dass</p>
<p>You say</p>
<p>"The collapse of Radha Swami has started. These are not Dassan Dass’s wordS, it is shown by DHAN DHAN SWAMI SHIV DAYAL JI OF PUNNI GALI AGRA WHO WAS THE SATGURU OF DHAN DHAN SANT BABA JAIMAL SINGH JI. Dassan Dass is just a messenger"</p>
<p>Us: Where, when and how did DHAN DHAN SWAMI SHIV DAYAL JI OF PUNNI GALI AGRA show the collapse?</p>
<p>Then you say</p>
<p>"There was no Radha Swami until BABA JAIMAL SINGH JI."</p>
<p>Us: Really. So we have breaking news here. The founder of Radhasoami is Jaimal Singhji and not Soamiji.</p>
<p>And just a few days ago a seeker asked and was provide not 5 but 6 Radhasoami shabds supposedly composed by Soamiji. </p>
<p>Going further</p>
<p>"THE ORIGIN IS DHAN DHAN SATGURU AVTAR GOBIND SINGH JI THE TENTH MASTER WHICH CARRIED OVER TO DHAN DHAN SANT TULSI SAHIB JI TO SWAMI SHIV DYAL JI AND BABA JAIMAL SINHJ JI."</p>
<p>Us: Two points</p>
<p>(A) we have the messenger of DHAN DHAN SATGURU AVTAR GOBIND SINGH JI stating that the tenth avatar did not in any way say Granth Sahib is the Guru henceforth. Sikh brothers in here please note.</p>
<p>(B) if as per some accounts in here the 6th to 10th Sikh gurus weren't true masters and if what messenger now states is correct, Tulsi Sahib is fake so is Shiv Dayalji and so on.</p>
<p>DHAN DHAN SWAMI SHIV DAYAL JI OF PUNNI GALI AGRA a fake?????? OMG.</p>
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</p>Gurus Inc commented on 'Why the RSSB guru has broken an initiate's heart'tag:typepad.com,2003:6a00d83451c0aa69e20240a4f44efc200b2019-12-08T03:58:37Z2019-12-08T03:58:37ZGurus IncIt’s one thing to have a teacher or a mentor or a sponsor, but to “worship” another human being is...<p>It’s one thing to have a teacher or a mentor or a sponsor, but to “worship” another human being is insane.</p>
<p>Posted by: Sonia | December 07, 2019 at 04:19 PM</p>
<p>Completely agree. But then if humans start this worship despite the teacher/master saying not to who/what is insane? The act of worship or the worshippers or the worshipped?</p>
<p>And do you recollect what the RSSB masters have to say about worshipping them or who or what is truly worthy of being worshipped?</p>Lost friend commented on 'Why the RSSB guru has broken an initiate's heart'tag:typepad.com,2003:6a00d83451c0aa69e20240a4a68118200c2019-12-08T02:51:16Z2019-12-08T02:51:16ZLost friend Sonia are you the same Sonya B that used to post here a long time ago?<p>Sonia are you the same Sonya B that used to post here a long time ago? </p>Dassan Dass commented on 'Why the RSSB guru has broken an initiate's heart'tag:typepad.com,2003:6a00d83451c0aa69e20240a4a679cb200c2019-12-08T00:47:08Z2019-12-08T01:54:04ZDassan Dass http://Www.satsatsat.comEverything happens in divine order. The collapse of Radha Swami has started. These are not Dassan Dass’s wordS, it is...<p>Everything happens in divine order. The collapse of Radha Swami has started. These are not Dassan Dass’s wordS, it is shown by DHAN DHAN SWAMI SHIV DAYAL JI OF PUNNI GALI AGRA WHO WAS THE SATGURU OF DHAN DHAN SANT BABA JAIMAL SINGH JI. Dassan Dass is just a messenger. There was no Radha Swami until BABA JAIMAL SINGH JI. THIS DISTORTION HAPPENED AFTER HIS DEPARTURE AND WHEN IT TURNED INTO A ORGANIZED PROGRAMMED RELIGION. THE ORIGIN IS DHAN DHAN SATGURU AVTAR GOBIND SINGH JI THE TENTH MASTER WHICH CARRIED OVER TO DHAN DHAN SANT TULSI SAHIB JI TO SWAMI SHIV DYAL JI AND BABA JAIMAL SINHJ JI. </p>Sonia commented on 'Why the RSSB guru has broken an initiate's heart'tag:typepad.com,2003:6a00d83451c0aa69e20240a4cf9f16200d2019-12-08T00:19:06Z2019-12-08T01:54:04ZSoniaIt looks like the end of the Radha Swami business is inevitable now. Posted by: Dassan Dass | December 07,...<p>It looks like the end of the Radha Swami business is inevitable now.</p>
<p>Posted by: Dassan Dass | December 07, 2019 at 09:18 AM</p>
<p>Thank you for your bhavishya Vani (prophesy) DHAN DHAN Baba Dassan Dassji.</p>
<p>Any timeframe within which the inevitable will occur?</p>
<p>Posted by: Gurus Inc | December 07, 2019 at 10:41 AM</p>
<p>Oh wait! My hand’s up! Can I answer this one?!? 😃 RS businesses will end half past never because there will always be a demand for gurus in India—especially the ones with nicer facilities. People have a tendency to look for someone or something to worship other than the creator. A God man/woman instead of God or a higher power. Sad.</p>
<p>It’s one thing to have a teacher or a mentor or a sponsor, but to “worship” another human being is insane.</p>Raam Jaani commented on 'Why the RSSB guru has broken an initiate's heart'tag:typepad.com,2003:6a00d83451c0aa69e20240a4f42d59200b2019-12-07T19:43:48Z2019-12-08T01:54:05ZRaam JaaniWell at least Baba Dassan Dass still has his DIB Drishti fully functional and is able to see the future....<p>Well at least Baba Dassan Dass still has his DIB Drishti fully functional and is able to see the future.<br />
Pity it wasnt working since sawan singh took over. Looks like it just awakened now when all the dodgy stuff has come out</p>
<p>Sirika Singh <br />
as far as i know it is not available to us.<br />
we just have what the newspapers have sumarised from it<br />
such as this one</p>
<p><a href="https://indianexpress.com/article/business/financial-deals-with-ranbaxy-brothers-admits-beas-sect-head-6118668/" rel="nofollow">https://indianexpress.com/article/business/financial-deals-with-ranbaxy-brothers-admits-beas-sect-head-6118668/</a></p>Gurus Inc commented on 'Why the RSSB guru has broken an initiate's heart'tag:typepad.com,2003:6a00d83451c0aa69e20240a4cf8679200d2019-12-07T18:41:08Z2019-12-08T01:54:05ZGurus IncIt looks like the end of the Radha Swami business is inevitable now. Posted by: Dassan Dass | December 07,...<p>It looks like the end of the Radha Swami business is inevitable now.</p>
<p>Posted by: Dassan Dass | December 07, 2019 at 09:18 AM</p>
<p>Thank you for your bhavishya Vani (prophesy) DHAN DHAN Baba Dassan Dassji.</p>
<p>Any timeframe within which the inevitable will occur?</p>Dassan Dass commented on 'Why the RSSB guru has broken an initiate's heart'tag:typepad.com,2003:6a00d83451c0aa69e20240a4a65a40200c2019-12-07T17:18:37Z2019-12-07T17:56:40ZDassan DassIt is hard to believe that a person spiritually so high with millions of followers don’t have one person who...<p>It is hard to believe that a person spiritually so high with millions of followers don’t have one person who can see the truth with the DIB DRIDHT about the entire Radha Swami organized heritage let alone Gurinder Singh. </p>
<p>It is unbelievable that he is a POORAN BRAHAM GYANI or any of his predecessors was a POORAN BRAHAM GYANIS after the departure of DHAN DHAN BABA JAIMAL SINGH JI. It looks like it has been a family run show after the departure of Baba JAIMAL Singh Ji. </p>
<p>It looks like the end of the Radha Swami business is inevitable now. </p>Meditator commented on 'Why the RSSB guru has broken an initiate's heart'tag:typepad.com,2003:6a00d83451c0aa69e20240a4a5e016200c2019-12-06T14:32:42Z2019-12-06T14:32:42ZMeditatorGuru inc, Brother, it was a personal take in my concluding para irrespective of the santmat or Baba jis commands....<p>Guru inc,<br />
Brother, it was a personal take in my concluding para irrespective of the santmat or Baba jis commands. Pl revisit my comment and see preceding paras. Its already conveyed what you have wished to emphasise.</p>
<p>I bow in helplessness before Him. I can do or bear very little and am always on His life-support. Similar sentiments and emotions flow for others realising the reality of the World and our inborn limits slapped on us ever since first breath. <br />
</p>Sirika Singh commented on 'Why the RSSB guru has broken an initiate's heart'tag:typepad.com,2003:6a00d83451c0aa69e20240a4f391be200b2019-12-06T08:05:07Z2019-12-06T18:08:24ZSirika SinghDoes anyone have a copy of the affidavit recently filed by GSD?<p>Does anyone have a copy of the affidavit recently filed by GSD?</p>Kiran Chauhan commented on 'Why the RSSB guru has broken an initiate's heart'tag:typepad.com,2003:6a00d83451c0aa69e20240a4ced6fb200d2019-12-06T04:39:49Z2019-12-06T04:39:49ZKiran ChauhanEvery rssb follwer has his own personal reason to believe in rssb. Babaji doesn't call us, but instead we go...<p>Every rssb follwer has his own personal reason to believe in rssb. Babaji doesn't call us, but instead we go to him for our personal benefits</p>Raam Jaani commented on 'Why the RSSB guru has broken an initiate's heart'tag:typepad.com,2003:6a00d83451c0aa69e20240a4a59a29200c2019-12-06T00:04:30Z2019-12-06T04:05:52ZRaam Jaanivoice_crying_in_wilderness you misunderstand the loan allegation. where did you get the idea it was for seva? nothing to do with...<p>voice_crying_in_wilderness <br />
you misunderstand the loan allegation.</p>
<p>where did you get the idea it was for seva?</p>
<p>nothing to do with seva</p>
<p>it was fraud, involving money being sent back and forth so it would nit be detected,<br />
nothing to do with shareholder money or shares going up or down.</p>
<p>you need to read the story, as your facts are wrong.</p>
<p>the conclusion that baba has done nothing wrong is very wrong.</p>Brian Hines commented on 'Why the RSSB guru has broken an initiate's heart'tag:typepad.com,2003:6a00d83451c0aa69e20240a4ceb6f1200d2019-12-05T21:44:29Z2019-12-05T21:49:23ZBrian Hineshttps://profile.typepad.com/brihinesSo I've seen several mentions of "fake news" from commenters on this post, but no one has pointed out what,...<p>So I've seen several mentions of "fake news" from commenters on this post, but no one has pointed out what, specifically, is fake or untruthful in this New Yorker story. I have zero patience for people who cry "fake news" but can't back up that claim with facts.</p>
<p>Show your facts, if you have them. If you don't, then stop calling this well-researched and well-written story fake news. If you like that Modi is a Hindu nationalist, that he's been involved in mass killings of Muslims, that he attacks Indian journalists, that he's doing bad things in Kashmir, that he's requiring Muslims in India to prove that they are citizens -- that's fine.</p>
<p>I disagree with your view, but at least you're recognizing facts. What I find most distasteful is claims of "fake news" that aren't backed up with "true news." Share links to reputable sources that rebut what the New Yorker says. Or stop with the fake news claim.</p>j commented on 'Why the RSSB guru has broken an initiate's heart'tag:typepad.com,2003:6a00d83451c0aa69e20240a4ceab4c200d2019-12-05T19:47:55Z2019-12-05T21:44:39Zj1 out of 1000 gallbladder surgeries result in death. https://www.cnn.com/2010/HEALTH/02/09/murtha.gallbladder.surgery/index.html All we know is that the late Shabnam Singh Dhillon...<p>1 out of 1000 gallbladder surgeries result in death.</p>
<p><a href="https://www.cnn.com/2010/HEALTH/02/09/murtha.gallbladder.surgery/index.html" rel="nofollow">https://www.cnn.com/2010/HEALTH/02/09/murtha.gallbladder.surgery/index.html</a></p>
<p>All we know is that the late Shabnam Singh Dhillon died in "English hospital" from gallbladder surgery. We don't know her exact medical problem. Is it possible she had gallbladder cancer? If so, that would definitely raise the mortality rate. But all we know is that she had "gastric issues," flew to the UK to presumably one of the best hospitals in the Western world to have surgery, but perished a week later from undisclosed "complications."</p>
<p>When someone only 57 years old dies from a surgery that doctors say is so safe it has a 1 in a 1000 failure rate, why is it being treated by RSSB as a death from natural causes? I'm not suggesting a conspiracy, but the appearance of medical error seems highly likely.<br />
</p>voice_crying_in_wilderness commented on 'Why the RSSB guru has broken an initiate's heart'tag:typepad.com,2003:6a00d83451c0aa69e20240a4f355cb200b2019-12-05T19:19:55Z2019-12-05T19:19:55Zvoice_crying_in_wildernessStill though, it's the brothers that are the dodgy business men here, you can't just give away huge piles of...<p>Still though, it's the brothers that are the dodgy business men here, you can't just give away huge piles of money in unsecured loans as seva money. Babaji is OK to take the money (why can't he take seva money??) but paying it back to Ranbaxy shareholders (Daichi) might prove difficult. Shareholders should be aware that the value of their investments can do down aswell as up, lol.</p>
<p>The conspiracy theorists are saying one of the brothers tried to buy the gadhi after Babji dies but there is no evidence to back up that theory.</p>
<p>To summarise, Babaji has done nothing wrong.</p>Think Tank commented on 'Why the RSSB guru has broken an initiate's heart'tag:typepad.com,2003:6a00d83451c0aa69e20240a4cea81d200d2019-12-05T19:09:19Z2019-12-05T21:44:39ZThink TankAnother possibility Sabnam decided it was better to die than go to prison for decades. So they engineered it as...<p>Another possibility <br />
Sabnam decided it was better to die than go to prison for decades. <br />
So they engineered it as a medical complication.<br />
Better than suicide which is frowned upon. <br />
Death is better than prison life<br />
</p>Gurus Inc commented on 'Why the RSSB guru has broken an initiate's heart'tag:typepad.com,2003:6a00d83451c0aa69e20240a4f35002200b2019-12-05T18:26:12Z2019-12-05T21:44:39ZGurus IncHaving said that i do not appreciate His dragging of a poor. differently abled into paying back. a charity showered...<p>Having said that i do not appreciate His dragging of a poor. differently abled into paying back. a charity showered on her.</p>
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Posted by: Meditator | December 05, 2019 at 09:36 AM</p>
<p>You appreciating or not appreciating is totally irrelevant in how a Master deals with his disciple. There's a fundamental law which governs and each has to abide. If you have understood a bit of santmat, you would know settling and not creating or holding on to karmas is the only way out.</p>
<p>So did GSD help that differently lady take one step forward towards the exit door or no?</p>
<p>Strange people tag themselves as initiated, satsangis etc but not a bit of understanding of sant mat and purpose of the guru wrt to it.</p>Meditator commented on 'Why the RSSB guru has broken an initiate's heart'tag:typepad.com,2003:6a00d83451c0aa69e20240a4f34bf4200b2019-12-05T17:36:02Z2019-12-05T18:22:51ZMeditatorLets not be funny. Death of a public figure generates lots of real condolences immediately which has to go. Public...<p>Lets not be funny. </p>
<p>Death of a public figure generates lots of real condolences immediately which has to go. Public in no time. </p>
<p>Else RSSB saints like other known Saints have set forth strict values and ethics for a favourable and humble. emvironment so. as to. groom seekers into Gods finally - their true self. That makes them look beyond the physical and into astral, causal etc. than only physical while. advising or. commenting. </p>
<p>Having said that i do not appreciate His dragging of a poor. differently abled into paying back. a charity showered on her. </p>
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</p>Gurus Inc commented on 'Why the RSSB guru has broken an initiate's heart'tag:typepad.com,2003:6a00d83451c0aa69e20240a4a57420200c2019-12-05T16:34:00Z2019-12-05T18:22:51ZGurus IncWow is it possibleto announce official about death of his wife but what wll happen when on 6 dec tmr...<p>Wow is it possibleto announce official about death of his wife but what wll happen when on 6 dec tmr last funeral<br />
ceramonies will be done infront of millions of followers cominv all over the world may he place dumy to got fired and he wll escape and even have possibility to be same position as his wife means he can suicide or escape india and last funerL ceramony wll bd done, with his dumy or you may say so. E other body can be zhown with plastic surgery right<br />
Are you in your senses i<br />
I donot think so want to laugh on your comment</p>
<p>Posted by: Anil | December 05, 2019 at 04:47 AM</p>
<p>Anil,</p>
<p>So we shall throw a cat amongst the pigeons.....</p>
<p>No funeral in front of millions of followers even if they have come from different parts of the world.</p>
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<p>Ya but the kind of influence GSD exerts (all Indian politicians in his pocket, state secrets and what not he holds, the illicit monies he has laundered for politicians, the Guru of India PM (L K Advani) being a follower, the ever obliging POTUS (GSD got the Illuminati to arm twist him) anything is possible you see. It might be GSD body double in Dera at the moment and with all medical records fixed, all local authorities compromised both GSD and Shabnam maybe enjoying the Sun in some Caribbean island.</p>
<p>Man, if a small fry like Nithyanand can flee the country on an expired passport..... GSD is SUPREME comparatively. You can't even imagine then what he can pull off. LOL</p>
<p>Baiters, we hope we haven't erred in encapsulating your assessment of his clout.</p>Gurus Inc commented on 'Why the RSSB guru has broken an initiate's heart'tag:typepad.com,2003:6a00d83451c0aa69e20240a4a56fe2200c2019-12-05T16:08:28Z2019-12-05T18:22:51ZGurus IncJesus Christ How wrong of us to expect some intelligence to see through the underlying sarcasm. Thank you Jim for...<p>Jesus Christ</p>
<p>How wrong of us to expect some intelligence to see through the underlying sarcasm.</p>
<p>Thank you Jim for your post. It shouldn't have been a response to me. Instead it ought to be directed to those morons in here who floated the ludicrous notion that her death has been faked!!!!</p>Anil commented on 'Why the RSSB guru has broken an initiate's heart'tag:typepad.com,2003:6a00d83451c0aa69e20240a4a55fb6200c2019-12-05T12:47:17Z2019-12-05T18:22:51ZAnilWow is it possibleto announce official about death of his wife but what wll happen when on 6 dec tmr...<p>Wow is it possibleto announce official about death of his wife but what wll happen when on 6 dec tmr last funeral <br />
ceramonies will be done infront of millions of followers cominv all over the world may he place dumy to got fired and he wll escape and even have possibility to be same position as his wife means he can suicide or escape india and last funerL ceramony wll bd done, with his dumy or you may say so. E other body can be zhown with plastic surgery right<br />
Are you in your senses i<br />
I donot think so want to laugh on your comment </p>Jim Sutherland commented on 'Why the RSSB guru has broken an initiate's heart'tag:typepad.com,2003:6a00d83451c0aa69e20240a4a55740200c2019-12-05T10:37:50Z2019-12-05T18:22:51ZJim SutherlandGuru, Inc. Writes,.. “ “PM I'm also not convinced his wife is really dead. The timing is too suspect. Many...<p>Guru, Inc. Writes,.. “<br />
“PM</p>
<p>I'm also not convinced his wife is really dead. The timing is too suspect.</p>
<p>Many of these gurus are extremely cunning. I wouldn't put it past him to have his wife fake her death.</p>
<p>Posted by: Guru puncher | December 04, 2019 at 02:12 PM</p>
<p>Shabnam is in one of the CIA safe houses in the USofA.</p>
<p>That's how powerful and well connected GSD is. Even the POTUS obliges!!!!</p>
<p>Heart burn huh? Can't help you with that”</p>
<p>Me: Isn’t the body of Shabnam now at the Beas Dera, for funeral? Won’t the public have access to final viewing of the body before it is set on fire at the River Beas? Wouldn’t a Coroner have examined the body in the London Hospital in order to issue the Death Certificate? What about DNA test of the Corpse ? Why would the CIA be involved? Please explain why?<br />
Jim S.<br />
</p>Sonia commented on 'Why the RSSB guru has broken an initiate's heart'tag:typepad.com,2003:6a00d83451c0aa69e20240a4ce7be7200d2019-12-05T10:10:27Z2019-12-05T18:22:51ZSoniaI can say for certainty she’s not in one of the CIA safe houses. And he’s not that well connected....<p>I can say for certainty she’s not in one of the CIA safe houses. And he’s not that well connected. I don’t mean this disrespectfully... I just don’t want this idea to go completely off the rails. </p>
<p>The timing was odd. That said, it is a very sad, unfortunate event all the way around. Shabnam Dhillon suffered an extreme amount of stress throughout this whole financial/legal ordeal. And everyone knows how quickly stress can kill a person. It’s very unfortunate and an absolute shock to so many.</p>kunal Arora commented on 'Why the RSSB guru has broken an initiate's heart'tag:typepad.com,2003:6a00d83451c0aa69e20240a4a54e98200c2019-12-05T08:36:06Z2019-12-05T18:22:51Zkunal AroraRanjit Do u have some sense or any knowledge or r u a dump, piece of shit and heartless person?.?...<p>Ranjit</p>
<p>Do u have some sense or any knowledge or r u a dump, piece of shit and heartless person?.? Someone lost his life partner and u r making fun of it? U bloody idiot, asshole ? Ask urself when u loose someone in ur life how will you feel when people will make fun of that news!! </p>gurjot commented on 'Why the RSSB guru has broken an initiate's heart'tag:typepad.com,2003:6a00d83451c0aa69e20240a4ce7278200d2019-12-05T07:24:33Z2019-12-05T07:24:33Zgurjot@Raam Jaani, Nothing to say about your post..Take care.<p>@Raam Jaani,</p>
<p>Nothing to say about your post..Take care.</p>Gurus Inc commented on 'Why the RSSB guru has broken an initiate's heart'tag:typepad.com,2003:6a00d83451c0aa69e20240a4ce6cd5200d2019-12-05T05:53:46Z2019-12-05T05:53:46ZGurus IncI'm also not convinced his wife is really dead. The timing is too suspect. Many of these gurus are extremely...<p>I'm also not convinced his wife is really dead. The timing is too suspect.</p>
<p>Many of these gurus are extremely cunning. I wouldn't put it past him to have his wife fake her death.</p>
<p>Posted by: Guru puncher | December 04, 2019 at 02:12 PM</p>
<p>Shabnam is in one of the CIA safe houses in the USofA.</p>
<p>That's how powerful and well connected GSD is. Even the POTUS obliges!!!!</p>
<p>Heart burn huh? Can't help you with that</p>Sonia commented on 'Why the RSSB guru has broken an initiate's heart'tag:typepad.com,2003:6a00d83451c0aa69e20240a4f2fac7200b2019-12-04T23:16:27Z2019-12-05T03:50:26ZSoniaDo you think he’s trying to protect her from going to jail??<p>Do you think he’s trying to protect her from going to jail??</p>Sonia commented on 'Why the RSSB guru has broken an initiate's heart'tag:typepad.com,2003:6a00d83451c0aa69e20240a4ce516d200d2019-12-04T23:14:54Z2019-12-05T03:50:26ZSoniaWould his wife’s death affect the court cases? I mean, because she was head of the companies for many years?<p>Would his wife’s death affect the court cases? I mean, because she was head of the companies for many years?</p>Guru puncher commented on 'Why the RSSB guru has broken an initiate's heart'tag:typepad.com,2003:6a00d83451c0aa69e20240a4f2f695200b2019-12-04T22:12:06Z2019-12-05T03:50:26ZGuru puncherGurinder is a punk. I'm also not convinced his wife is really dead. The timing is too suspect. Many of...<p>Gurinder is a punk. I'm also not convinced his wife is really dead. The timing is too suspect.</p>
<p>Many of these gurus are extremely cunning. I wouldn't put it past him to have his wife fake her death. </p>PJ commented on 'Why the RSSB guru has broken an initiate's heart'tag:typepad.com,2003:6a00d83451c0aa69e20240a4f2d2b3200b2019-12-04T14:54:50Z2019-12-04T17:33:08ZPJI could rationalize this one though. Maybe the impetus to find a job is what she needed, maybe she will...<p>I could rationalize this one though. Maybe the impetus to find a job is what she needed, maybe she will take up painting herself or already does and this gives her the idea to try to make an income out of it. </p>
<p>What I can't justify is Jim's account which I'm not going to recount as I find it too annoying and distasteful, no pun intended. </p>Ranjit commented on 'Why the RSSB guru has broken an initiate's heart'tag:typepad.com,2003:6a00d83451c0aa69e20240a4ce1541200d2019-12-04T10:23:56Z2019-12-04T10:23:56ZRanjit@ Gurjot "Those ppl who dont have knowledge abt dera, have become scholars on RSSB. Posted by: gurjot |" Hi...<p>@ Gurjot<br />
"Those ppl who dont have knowledge abt dera, have become scholars on RSSB.</p>
<p>Posted by: gurjot |"<br />
Hi Gurjot,</p>
<p>I have spent many years in RSSB with my wife...we know how the Dera works...very perfectly..we were always told to keep your eyes and ears shut if anyone tells wrong about Babaji....and we did so...l asked many questions personally to Babaji . I will say l was not satisfied with most of his replies but l kept faith....</p>
<p>But now as the new evidence are coming out and the increasing property of Dera and Levish lifestyle of Baba ji makes really sense to me...<br />
I cannot keep my ears and eyes shut as proofs are already there on SEBI and other international news papers...also Babaji lies about not appearing in court broke my heart....l am pure follower of Santmat but also now beleive that Santmat is not RSSB property and Baba ji can not claim it..everyone is Satsangi whether he or she goes to Church, Temple or Gurdwara...not sure why we RSSB call only Dera followers Satsangi<br />
As say there is no smoke without fire....l can see clearly Babaji involvement in this scam.<br />
I don't have any faith in him anymore ..my wife is also nearly there...</p>
<p>Also many more people here know Dera well .. Brian also one of them spent 35+ years with Dera..wrote many books on Dera...we were told lots of bad things about Brian that he become greedy and wanted money for his book bla bla...when Dera refused he left</p>
<p>I also believed in it as have full faith in Babaji..didn't use my mind. . But now after this big scam..l am thinking why someone gave 35 years to Dera..too much deep into spirituality..influenced hundreds of people whith his many books and left RSSB only because of money...my mind and stomach can't digest this.</p>
<p>How someone that level of spiritual just turned a greedy person after 35 years of spirituality...Can you understand???</p>
<p>Just for few minutes take the faith glasses off from your eyes and see things clearly..you might see things differently.....</p>
<p>Thanks</p>
<p><br />
</p>Raam Jaani commented on 'Why the RSSB guru has broken an initiate's heart'tag:typepad.com,2003:6a00d83451c0aa69e20240a4a4e87c200c2019-12-04T10:19:38Z2019-12-04T17:33:08ZRaam JaaniGurjot nobody needs a baba. the baba needs you these are not a few allegations. total them and get shocked....<p>Gurjot<br />
nobody needs a baba.<br />
the baba needs you <br />
these are not a few allegations. <br />
total them and get shocked. <br />
all are lies? the baba is so truthful and high ? really?<br />
he just said he owes nothing. <br />
then admits financial transactions with singh brothers.<br />
that was fraud, very serious. <br />
He will be called to court in february again.<br />
by that time he will do something again. maybe disappear<br />
he has seen what happened to ram raheem and doesnt want same fate<br />
he is much cleverer and better connected than ram raheem<br />
and has a lot of support from politicians </p>
<p>what is clear is that he will avoid the courts because he will lose the ill gotton money<br />
not sure how his sons will escape all this as they are directly involved.<br />
time will tell<br />
expect more surprises like sabnam kaur<br />
</p>Alexander Black commented on 'Why the RSSB guru has broken an initiate's heart'tag:typepad.com,2003:6a00d83451c0aa69e20240a4ce0d74200d2019-12-04T08:02:20Z2019-12-04T08:02:20ZAlexander BlackSpence Tepper commenting on Baba Ji's advice to woman in the wheelchair: "Was anyone else there? Any other witnesses? This...<p>Spence Tepper commenting on Baba Ji's advice to woman in the wheelchair:<br />
"Was anyone else there?<br />
Any other witnesses? This must have been a joke."</p>
<p>The question and answer session was held in a tent. It was at Dera in December 2006. <br />
My take on it at the time was that Baba Ji tried to snap her out from her self-pity. But looking back at it now all I see is hypocrisy. </p>gurjot commented on 'Why the RSSB guru has broken an initiate's heart'tag:typepad.com,2003:6a00d83451c0aa69e20240a4ce09f9200d2019-12-04T07:07:29Z2019-12-04T17:33:09Zgurjot@ks, Congress too ruled punjab for a lot of time period and dera too grown with same pace in that...<p>@ks,</p>
<p>Congress too ruled punjab for a lot of time period and dera too grown with same pace in that period. Dera grown with rapid pace when india was under british rule..so stop your BS.</p>
<p>Sad to see, what kind of disciple you are, if few allegations changes your faith on your master. <br />
He does not need you but you need him.</p>
<p>As i have said earlier, even master GSD comes free, ppl will say, he used money,power bla bla to get free.</p>
<p>Those ppl who dont have knowledge abt dera, have become scholars on RSSB.</p>Spence Tepper commented on 'Why the RSSB guru has broken an initiate's heart'tag:typepad.com,2003:6a00d83451c0aa69e20240a4cdff0e200d2019-12-04T04:20:04Z2019-12-04T04:20:04ZSpence Tepper Baba Ji The airfare was a gift. You've taken a few gifts right? I've got a nice paint brush collection...<p>Baba Ji<br />
The airfare was a gift. <br />
You've taken a few gifts right? <br />
I've got a nice paint brush collection with fruit flavored handles if you are looking to make some cash... To pay back those "gifts"...<br />
</p>Spence Tepper commented on 'Why the RSSB guru has broken an initiate's heart'tag:typepad.com,2003:6a00d83451c0aa69e20240a4cdfeeb200d2019-12-04T04:15:02Z2019-12-04T04:15:02ZSpence Tepper I think it's Hilarious that Baba Ji, who owes hundreds of millions, would tell a woman bound to a wheel...<p>I think it's Hilarious that Baba Ji, who owes hundreds of millions, would tell a woman bound to a wheel chair that she must go find work and pay back her airfare, given freely to her by friends.</p>
<p>Was anyone else there? <br />
Any other witnesses? This must have been a joke. </p>
<p>Nothing says "I'm a villain!" quite as perfectly as kicking a disabled woman in a wheelchair. </p>Arun Marwah commented on 'Why the RSSB guru has broken an initiate's heart'tag:typepad.com,2003:6a00d83451c0aa69e20240a4f2a686200b2019-12-04T03:42:10Z2019-12-04T17:33:09ZArun MarwahI got the shock of my life at the involvement of RSSB spiritual head in financial scams.<p>I got the shock of my life at the involvement of RSSB spiritual head in financial scams.</p>KS commented on 'Why the RSSB guru has broken an initiate's heart'tag:typepad.com,2003:6a00d83451c0aa69e20240a4f2a56d200b2019-12-04T03:24:03Z2019-12-04T17:33:09ZKShttps://www.hindustantimes.com/punjab/bikram-majithia-had-a-role-in-facilitating-supply-of-drugs-to-canadian-nris-stf-report/story-22aunjY2psnXNu4i6vpc7I.htmlWhen you have have relatives and friends like Bikram Majithia ,Sukhbir Badal,Harsimrat Kaur Badal ,what else can you expect ?.Majithia-Badal...<p>When you have have relatives and friends like Bikram Majithia ,Sukhbir Badal,Harsimrat Kaur Badal ,what else can you expect ?.Majithia-Badal gang were using Punjab state resources to assist massive growth of Dera Beas.</p>