Comments on Open Thread 24 (free speech for comments)TypePad2019-09-11T22:01:48ZBrian Hineshttps://hinessight.blogs.com/church_of_the_churchless/tag:typepad.com,2003:https://hinessight.blogs.com/church_of_the_churchless/2019/09/open-thread-24-free-speech-for-comments/comments/atom.xml/cocky me commented on 'Open Thread 24 (free speech for comments)'tag:typepad.com,2003:6a00d83451c0aa69e20240a492b330200c2019-10-18T06:12:01Z2019-10-18T23:35:10Zcocky meOk Arjun. Baba Ibiza it is. Get the club rented and the liquor poured. We're partying our way into heaven....<p>Ok Arjun. Baba Ibiza it is.</p>
<p>Get the club rented and the liquor poured. We're partying our way into heaven.</p>
<p>Posted by: Jesse | October 17, 2019 at 05:23 PM</p>
<p>Hello Caligula oops Jesse</p>
<p>Don't forget to send in the pics. We'll have a nice thread on this too.</p>Jesse commented on 'Open Thread 24 (free speech for comments)'tag:typepad.com,2003:6a00d83451c0aa69e20240a492b0fb200c2019-10-18T05:38:41Z2019-10-18T23:35:10ZJesseThis is a satsang from the supreme guru of all mankind. The true sant preaching the current yugadharma. Five minutes...<p>This is a satsang from the supreme guru of all mankind. The true sant preaching the current yugadharma. </p>
<p>Five minutes and forty five seconds that will change your life forever.</p>
<p><a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HoPtz0Xt91c" rel="nofollow">https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HoPtz0Xt91c</a> </p>Dungeness commented on 'Open Thread 24 (free speech for comments)'tag:typepad.com,2003:6a00d83451c0aa69e20240a4bbde12200d2019-10-18T04:48:00Z2019-10-18T04:48:00ZDungenessJesse, you would make a wonderful guru, even your comments here make me laugh and cheer me up. I love...<p><br />
Jesse, you would make a wonderful guru, even your comments here make me laugh and cheer me up. I love honesty but unfortunately most people...</p>
<p>That's the spirit... we need a "party guru" ala Omar:</p>
<p>“Drink wine. This is life eternal. This is all that youth will give you. It is the season for wine, roses and drunken friends. Be happy for this moment. This moment is your life.”<br />
― Omar Khayyam</p>
<p>Of course you need to be a bit cautious:</p>
<p>“To wisely live your life, you don't need to know much<br />
Just remember two main rules for the beginning:<br />
You better starve, than eat whatever<br />
And better be alone, than with whoever.”<br />
― Omar Khayyám</p>Spence Tepper commented on 'Open Thread 24 (free speech for comments)'tag:typepad.com,2003:6a00d83451c0aa69e20240a492ac38200c2019-10-18T04:04:18Z2019-10-18T04:04:18ZSpence TepperHi Georgy You wrote "I can say with absolute certainty that there are fekall chance of any gurus on this...<p>Hi Georgy<br />
You wrote<br />
"I can say with absolute certainty that there are fekall chance of any gurus on this here site. This is a fact, almost as certain as death & taxes."</p>
<p>Everyone is a teacher of something, Georgy. Every parent teaches their child. But children also teach their parents. But can their parents learn from their children? And thus learn to be better parents? </p>
<p>I think the quality of a good teacher is that they have mastered the art of being a top student.</p>
<p>Being a good student doesn't make you a good teacher, but I think it's a minimum condition. </p>
<p>As for a Guru, a spiritual teacher, I've learned many spiritual lessons and life lessons from Satsangis and non - Satsangis. Not just my Master and Gurinder. </p>
<p>The same joy, the same utter bliss I used to get sitting in the Master's presence I now get within. He is there. Isn't that what we all wanted? So when we finally are blessed with that, it's very difficult to be harsh with anyone. The harshness only comes acknowledging facts, which we are obliged to do. It is a necessity to be very strict about our vows, and facts as part of maintaining a clean atmosphere of helpfulness and ahimsa. But how we handle those difficult truths should reflect brotherhood. </p>
<p>So, I think we all really just want to submit, submit, submit to that sunny warmth. Everyone does. Even the Master, at least a perfect Master, is in constant submission to their own Master.</p>
<p>The best teachers are the best students. They aren't actually teachers at all. That's a side function. Others follow them, others can't help but gravitate to them. Real teachers, if you can even use that term, take no formal authority. Their students submit from love, not any formal position. </p>
<p>Their first job is to be a good student. And so whether you are a teacher, which can only be truly defined by those who elect to follow you, your only real job is to be the best student. </p>
<p>If you are a good student, you learn, you investigate, you listen and reflect. What you get from that submission to the reality around you and within you is everything. You are trying to understand, especially those who have completely different views. Understand and appreciate. And at first your own Master may seem very foreign. But in time you become him, he becomes you. </p>
<p>Let's put opinions aside for a while, and appreciate the kindness of being in each other's company. These little relationships are like chocolates. Some are bittersweet, some dark, some very syrupy (my favorite), but they are here and gone in an instant. </p>
<p>Those little gulab jamin balls in syrup, how sweet, but devoured all too soon. </p>
<p>Then when we are above this and we all can see for ourselves, that open view won't be so special. It's the kindness we showed here, when we were ignorant of any reason to be kind, but did it anyway. </p>
<p>Like watching animals show wordless acts of compassion for each other. Their very limitations make those acts very special. </p>Jesse commented on 'Open Thread 24 (free speech for comments)'tag:typepad.com,2003:6a00d83451c0aa69e20240a4e07a78200b2019-10-18T00:23:13Z2019-10-18T00:23:13ZJesseOk Arjun. Baba Ibiza it is. Get the club rented and the liquor poured. We're partying our way into heaven.<p>Ok Arjun. Baba Ibiza it is. </p>
<p>Get the club rented and the liquor poured. We're partying our way into heaven. </p>Jen commented on 'Open Thread 24 (free speech for comments)'tag:typepad.com,2003:6a00d83451c0aa69e20240a4929d46200c2019-10-18T00:07:37Z2019-10-18T00:07:37ZJen"I go to great lengths to be alone as much as possible and also of being truly honest, which is...<p>"I go to great lengths to be alone as much as possible and also of being truly honest, which is something most people are incapable of." </p>
<p>Jesse, you would make a wonderful guru, even your comments here make me laugh and cheer me up. I love honesty but unfortunately most people have a facade and play their little games and I probably do the same, being polite just to survive!<br />
</p>Georgy Porgy commented on 'Open Thread 24 (free speech for comments)'tag:typepad.com,2003:6a00d83451c0aa69e20240a4e076a5200b2019-10-17T23:25:18Z2019-10-17T23:25:18ZGeorgy Porgy I can say with absolute certainty that there are fekall chance of any gurus on this here site. This is...<p>I can say with absolute certainty that there are fekall chance of any gurus on this here site. This is a fact, almost as certain as death & taxes.</p>Arjuna commented on 'Open Thread 24 (free speech for comments)'tag:typepad.com,2003:6a00d83451c0aa69e20240a4bbb857200d2019-10-17T20:02:02Z2019-10-17T23:21:54ZArjuna @ jesse "If I ever become a guru I believe promise you it's just for money and access to ditzy...<p>@ jesse</p>
<p>"If I ever become a guru I believe promise you it's just for money and access to ditzy women with daddy issues. Nothing spiritual about it."</p>
<p>Awesome- think we need to party in Ibiza in March. The women are out of this world.</p>Jesse commented on 'Open Thread 24 (free speech for comments)'tag:typepad.com,2003:6a00d83451c0aa69e20240a4bbb52b200d2019-10-17T19:27:55Z2019-10-17T19:48:12ZJesseNancy, I'd rather be dead than to be a guru of anyone. I find the concept of gurudom to be...<p>Nancy, I'd rather be dead than to be a guru of anyone. I find the concept of gurudom to be a detriment to all human aspirations. All communication should be on 4chan and other anonymous message boards so personalities are removed completely and only the best ideas win.</p>
<p>I go to great lengths to be alone as much as possible and also of being truly honest, which is something most people are incapable of. Being a guru would mean having to suffer the most annoying and desperate people on earth all the time and being tortured by their unwanted attention. </p>
<p>I'd have to lie to my students because unlike the one true God UG Krishnamurti, it would wear me out to constantly have to point out others fantastical delusions.</p>
<p>If I ever become a guru I believe promise you it's just for money and access to ditzy women with daddy issues. Nothing spiritual about it.</p>PJ commented on 'Open Thread 24 (free speech for comments)'tag:typepad.com,2003:6a00d83451c0aa69e20240a4e04d75200b2019-10-17T15:41:48Z2019-10-17T19:48:13ZPJ@Whodunit There is a clear path of succession in RSSB though. If one is a fraud then they all were....<p>@Whodunit<br />
There is a clear path of succession in RSSB though. If one is a fraud then they all were. </p>
<p>And as for the sikh gurus, how many times do the words 'his son' come up lol Things don't change. </p>Nancy commented on 'Open Thread 24 (free speech for comments)'tag:typepad.com,2003:6a00d83451c0aa69e20240a4e04ba5200b2019-10-17T15:23:02Z2019-10-17T19:48:13ZNancyThe more I read this blog the more I realize what the regular commenters have in common. All want to...<p>The more I read this blog the more I realize what the regular commenters have in common. All want to be Guru. With the comments of Laneji, Brianji, guru jessie, Spence and his visions, osho and his oneness. This is the common thread that binds them. And this the dirt thrown at the present master. </p>🙏🙏 🙏😮 🙏🙏 🙏 commented on 'Open Thread 24 (free speech for comments)'tag:typepad.com,2003:6a00d83451c0aa69e20240a492609b200c2019-10-17T12:22:48Z2019-10-17T12:22:48Z🙏🙏 🙏😮 🙏🙏 🙏Thank You One Initiated for the searhes Time is going fast these days So let's replay it because the other...<p>Thank You One Initiated for the searhes<br />
Time is going fast these days</p>
<p>So let's replay it because the other phrases about Shabd are even more enlightening</p>
<p>6.5 on the Richter scale</p>
<p>777</p>
<p><br />
Posted by: 777@ | July 04, 2019 at 06:01 AM</p>
<p>Brian declared again in a wrong statement:</p>
<p>"What is it like to be you? Impossible to know."</p>
<p><br />
Wrong</p>
<p>When we are fixed, absorbed in the Sweet Majestic Sound , . .<br />
you are that "YOU" too<br />
at any moment</p>
<p>777</p>
<p>Posted by: 777@ | July 05, 2019 at 02:18 AM</p>
<p>777 <br />
I noticed this comment of your made and posted at 6 am on the 4th of July. <br />
“Nagging these Jeevas might result in >6.5 on the Richter scale”</p>
<p>Were you referring to the 6.6 earthquake near LA which happened 4 hours after?</p>
<p>😮</p>
<p>Posted by: Vijay | July 05, 2019 at 06:40 AM</p>
<p><<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<</p>
<p>Please Don't Worry, . . . Be very Happy<br />
</p>Jim Sutherland commented on 'Open Thread 24 (free speech for comments)'tag:typepad.com,2003:6a00d83451c0aa69e20240a4e0318b200b2019-10-17T10:07:28Z2019-10-17T10:07:28ZJim SutherlandWhoDunit writes,...” It is difficult to consider after Gurinder if there would be any successor capable of returning to a...<p>WhoDunit writes,...” It is difficult to consider after Gurinder if there would be any successor capable of returning to a simple path unencumbered by political and financial intrigue.”</p>
<p>Me: Again, Professor David Lane could pull RSSB all together, as GSD’s Successor Guru. He has not only Charan Singh’s Blessing, but has the Credentials, the Stamina, the Financial Security, and Family to back him. His long time friend, Vince Savarise could even remain the U.S. Western Rep. under Guru Laneji, and Brian Hines would be re-established as Guru Lane’s Head of Security replacing Wayne. Hines has a Black Belt, so is one Bad Assed Dudeji. In order to make RSSB Great Again, Turbans will NOT be worn by Master Laneji, or his Devotees, and Turbans will be replaced by Gold Base Ball Caps with Logos,..<br />
MRSSBGA. ( Make RSSB Great Again). Since Professor David Lane’s Wife won’t move to India, the Dera will be moved from Beas to Palm Desert, California,where Professor Lane’s present Villa is located, and the grounds will be transformed in to RSSPD....i.e. Radaswami Satsang Palm Desert. Gurinder Singh Dhillan will be invited to sit on the Dias with Master Laneji once a year at Bhandara after Dhillon gets out of Jail and has completed his Sentence. Sawan’s Prophecy of the Spiritual Shift from East To West will unfold before our eyes. Spence will be appointed as the Scribe of RSSPD.<br />
What do the Pundits think? <br />
Jim Sutherland</p>slave_of_GSD commented on 'Open Thread 24 (free speech for comments)'tag:typepad.com,2003:6a00d83451c0aa69e20240a492459b200c2019-10-17T07:01:15Z2019-10-17T07:01:15Zslave_of_GSDClearly the guru is clever and might get away with the fraud and the money issues he is involved in....<p>Clearly the guru is clever and might get away with the fraud and the money issues he is involved in.</p>
<p>anyone with a brain can see he is involved in dodgy money dealings.</p>
<p>he could quite easily get away with it by denying everything.</p>
<p>obviously he received money but he can claim it was a legitimate business transaction.</p>
<p>they wont have any written agreement in place and if Godhwani agrees to take the rap for his part and claim he was the guilty party, the guru will not get charged.</p>
<p></p>
<p>Posted by: RSSB is FINISHED | October 12, 2019 at 03:56 PM</p>
<p>Convenient hedging. Cold feet maybe. Lame justifications already. See I told you so. LoL.</p>
<p>The guru can hoodwink all that pile of clinching evidence!!! Ex-Finance Minister of India (an immensely more powerful individual than GSD and one known for his cerebral arrogance cant)</p>
<p>Pile of evidence (according to you) will turn to worthless shit huh?</p>
<p>Sould my pity consider you worthy?</p>
<p>RSSB_is_FINISHED. --- this ID certainly will.</p>
<p>Posted by: slave_of_GSD | October 15, 2019 at 08:55 PM</p>Whodunit commented on 'Open Thread 24 (free speech for comments)'tag:typepad.com,2003:6a00d83451c0aa69e20240a4bb7497200d2019-10-17T06:07:49Z2019-10-17T06:07:49ZWhodunit Some time ago a representative of RSSB had told me that the first 5 gurus of the Sikh movement were...<p>Some time ago a representative of RSSB had told me that the first 5 gurus of the Sikh movement were genuine saints and that the remaining 5 gurus were not. That by the time of Guru Arjan 5th Sikh guru it had started becoming enshrined as a religious institution. </p>
<p>Hence Nanak, Angad, Amar Das, Ram Das, and Arjan were regarded as genuine spiritual leaders and teachers / gurus. The remaining 5 gurus were not. </p>
<p>As noted from Wikipedia the Sikh succession of gurus was not dissimilar to that of RSSB in that there were splits and breakaway movements as well as jealous disputes between those who assumed succession when the guru favored someone else more aligned with the teaching he taught. </p>
<p>Arjan's son Hargobind was given succession after his father was executed by Emperor Jahangir. </p>
<p>After the martyrdom of Guru Arjan, his son Guru Hargobind at age eleven became the sixth guru of the Sikhs and Sikhism dramatically evolved to become a political movement in addition to being religious.</p>
<p>The last 5 Sikh gurus were far removed in teaching and in principle of tenets to that of the first 5 since Nanak. Gobind Singh and Teg Bahadur were warriors who hunted and who as have been revealed in historical accounts ate meat. </p>
<p>Sant Mat under RSSB is quite possibly at a similar juncture that is becoming enshrined as a religious institution. <br />
It is difficult to consider after Gurinder if there would be any successor capable of returning to a simple path unencumbered by political and financial intrigue. </p>
<p><br />
</p>One Initiated commented on 'Open Thread 24 (free speech for comments)'tag:typepad.com,2003:6a00d83451c0aa69e20240a4bb6e13200d2019-10-17T04:18:37Z2019-10-20T08:01:01ZOne Initiatedhttps://profile.typepad.com/oneinitiatedManjit, Can you present the facts to support your view on 777's comment about earth quake? Either you are more...<p>Manjit,</p>
<p>Can you present the facts to support your view on 777's comment about earth quake?</p>
<p>Either you are more gullible than others here<br />
OR<br />
It is actually You who could not understand the Timezones.</p>
<p>If you can not, let me throw some light on the facts here:</p>
<p>this comment posted by 777 <a href="https://tinyurl.com/y497skgh" rel="nofollow">https://tinyurl.com/y497skgh</a><br />
was posted on 6:01 AM (PST) - as recorded by Brian's blog's webserver.<br />
(fyi this recording time of the comment is not editable)</p>
<p>And here on this page you may read:<br />
<a href="https://www.usgs.gov/news/update-magnitude-71-earthquake-southern-california?qt-news_science_products=7#qt-news_science_products" rel="nofollow">https://www.usgs.gov/news/update-magnitude-71-earthquake-southern-california?qt-news_science_products=7#qt-news_science_products</a></p>
<p>The time recorded for the Earthquake was 10:34 AM.</p>
<p>Even if you would consider the daylight saving adjustment and consider PDT instead of PST, it will still be 9:34 AM.</p>
<p>Also here:<br />
<a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2019_Ridgecrest_earthquakes" rel="nofollow">https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2019_Ridgecrest_earthquakes</a></p>
<p>The reported time of the FIRST Mainshock on July 4th was: 17:33 UTC (which is 10:33 PST)</p>
<p>And that was the First Mainshock and it's aftershocks resulted in further mainshocks for the next few days with different epicentres. </p>Tim Rimmer commented on 'Open Thread 24 (free speech for comments)'tag:typepad.com,2003:6a00d83451c0aa69e20240a492393b200c2019-10-17T02:48:41Z2019-10-17T02:48:41ZTim RimmerManjit ‘young fella’ good to read your latest post - have to say it brought up some recollection re the...<p>Manjit ‘young fella’ good to read your latest post - have to say it brought up some recollection re the whole spiritual trip for me and I feel like rambling on a bit.<br />
That you say there are no seekers of a similar bent of mind to you is both interesting and perhaps a little sad? It’s been my observation (limited of course) that over the years many young folk don’t seem to have that yearning intensity to know themselves in the same way as I and some of my friends did. There are some serious issues with depression and mental illness affecting many younger folk these days. Some say it’s due to lack of time spent within nature. Attention spans seem shorter and many are coming to terms with identity issues in a physical reality that one could describe as ‘seriously deteriorating in a natural sense’, and gearing up for likely machine consciousness in an evolutionary one. That’s my take at present.<br />
In my late teens early twenties I was consumed with desire/longing for the truth of life/God. I investigated many so-called spiritual paths, (like others who post here). What sealed it for me (then) was meeting a really cool dude who has remained my best mate ever since - he introduced me to Sant Mat. In the eighties and nineties it (RSSB) surely did not seem to be religious-like. However, those of us brought up in the West generally only saw snippets of traditional Indian beliefs/behaviour while we were caught up in the whole guru/darshan/meditation/club-med Dera/tasty food/interesting international people trip. It sure was a pretty cool and at times blissful scene. However, I personally remained open to anything that could help with mental and emotional turbulence - hence rebirthing, Buddhist/Advaita approaches etc.<br />
Something changed with RSSB in the early 2000s imo. I think all the new rules/loss of ‘freedoms’ were part of it. As time passed maybe your point about GSD’s cancer affecting his behaviour is valid. Also Brian started this blog then (2006?) i.e. it possibly also reflected this change.<br />
While you say he is an atheist/materialist it’s my view that he’s still keeping an open eye on things, continues to meditate, and allows ‘interesting’ posts. I will say I’ve tried in several recently to generate interest in broader discussion around consciousness - in brain/outside, also psychedelics(which I’ve mostly read about) and neuroscience research e.g. the default mode network, but little or no return comment. Maybe people are not interested. However, I think most is lost amidst this on-going drama with ‘Gugu’. RSSB is still alive and well on this blog. <br />
It’s alive because many of us have or had a very strong attachment to it for many years. It shaped us into the people we are today and helped us (most of us?) keep it together particularly through meditational discipline.<br />
However all things change and as someone (and also myself) said in earlier posts - perhaps the hardest thing to give up/let go is the guru, in particular one’s concepts about that personality. At some stage you’ve gotta kill that Buddha you meet on the road.<br />
I agree with you that Sant Mat is now a religion, maybe it always was. One thing for sure is that followers are going to have to really wake up soon when they see their guru is in court and perhaps even in jail. I have friends who have trucked on nicely over the last few years munching prasad then putting their head back in the sand. Their world will be rocked. Yet as you say this could well be Gurinder’s greatest gift to them.<br />
Say hi to Osho if you see him.<br />
Peace be upon thee also.<br />
</p>Jesse commented on 'Open Thread 24 (free speech for comments)'tag:typepad.com,2003:6a00d83451c0aa69e20240a4923152200c2019-10-17T00:51:36Z2019-10-17T00:51:36ZJesseOpen Question to anyone who believes they have an ability to unlock secrets in religious texts via skills gained from...<p>Open Question to anyone who believes they have an ability to unlock secrets in religious texts via skills gained from silently repeating words in Indian languages.</p>
<p>As we all know, in many traditions it is said that there comes a time when the world becomes extremely corrupt, evil and nearly uninhabitable for most of the population. At this time, some sort of avatar, or divine being,descends from the sky riding a white horse and kills all the evil doers on earth. It's the same for Islam, Christianity,and Hinduism.</p>
<p>With this in mind, do you think Kim Jon Un riding on a white horse to the sacred mountain of North Korea is a sign that we're all about to get completely REKT in the apocalypse? </p>Jesse commented on 'Open Thread 24 (free speech for comments)'tag:typepad.com,2003:6a00d83451c0aa69e20240a4bb4f78200d2019-10-16T20:00:26Z2019-10-16T20:55:38ZJesse"Charan's disgraceful and ignorant comments about homosexuality" lol not the sacred homosexuals! How DARE he not express his desire for...<p>"Charan's disgraceful and ignorant comments about homosexuality"</p>
<p>lol not the sacred homosexuals! How DARE he not express his desire for them to find their way into teaching positions to prey on children! (said in spastic Greta Thunberg's accent)</p>
<p> I realize you're just way too humble, spiritually advanced and all around too good to keep reading or commenting here, but you should watch the documentary about bugchasing called The Gift. </p>
<p><a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wHqwf-EOtro" rel="nofollow">https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wHqwf-EOtro</a></p>Michael commented on 'Open Thread 24 (free speech for comments)'tag:typepad.com,2003:6a00d83451c0aa69e20240a4bb45e5200d2019-10-16T18:03:40Z2019-10-16T20:55:38ZMichaelManjit Just when I get fed up with the blog, you come along and post this. A great from the...<p>Manjit<br />
Just when I get fed up with the blog, you come along and post this.<br />
A great from the heart comment<br />
🙏 <br />
</p>manjit commented on 'Open Thread 24 (free speech for comments)'tag:typepad.com,2003:6a00d83451c0aa69e20240a49210a8200c2019-10-16T17:45:15Z2019-10-16T20:55:38ZmanjitRecently I've received a few comments from people asking me to comment. I find myself with nothing to say, having...<p>Recently I've received a few comments from people asking me to comment. I find myself with nothing to say, having no real interest in the worldly shenanigans of Gugu and co. But I will say this :)</p>
<p>My only interest here and the RSS forum over the past 20 odd years has been to discuss with genuine seekers of a similar bent of mind to mine. Recently I have realised, there are none. Not a single one in 20 years. I don't mean initiates aged 40 and over (more like 60 and over!), for whom it is not my place to try and discuss or convince them of anything. I don't mean the overwhelming majority, those born into this religion, or with elder family members, but independant, new seekers; Not. A. Single. ONE.</p>
<p>Wow.</p>
<p>That RS, and RSSB specifically, is a religion and not a genuine vehicle for spiritual exploration and growth is obvious and imo goes without saying. I don't need to say anything, just let the apologists and defenders here keep commenting. It becomes more and more obvious with every post they write. The SPs, the Georgy Porgys (s/he who "has no connection to RSSB or Gurinder", yet is obviously related to the religion by family connection!), the "whodunits" and all the rest. They are the best critics of RS and RSSB, imo.</p>
<p>The fact that the only online places to discuss RS is a now defunct and inaccessible Yahoo forum, and a blog where comments have to be moderated by a dyed in the wool atheist and materialist says it all. Which other spiritual practice is so limited in it's discussion forums? An absolutely ridiculous state of affairs.</p>
<p>Yes, as per the "name" of a new commenter here, RSSB is dead. As is RS in general.</p>
<p>Gugu's spectacular fall from grace is just an extension of all the various things that clearly demonstrate RS and all it's gurus are not what they claim, from Kirpal's various self-serving egotistical tall tales to Charan's disgraceful and ignorant comments about homosexuality published in official literature; human, all too human.</p>
<p>So, have at it all. I have no interest in commenting further.</p>
<p>RS is not dead because of Gugu's obvious non-guru-like behaviour. It is dead because it is an utterly absurd paradigm within which there are only failures (at liberation, not miracle stories and blind belief like any other religion or cult, or semi-lucid dreams/astral projection....but LIBERATION)</p>
<p>Ahh, but perhaps therein lies the secret.</p>
<p>Gugu's spectacular fall from Grace will liberate more souls than any previous RS Satguru.</p>
<p>Tis a mystery that few will understand.</p>
<p>Peace.</p>manjit commented on 'Open Thread 24 (free speech for comments)'tag:typepad.com,2003:6a00d83451c0aa69e20240a4dff3be200b2019-10-16T17:29:52Z2019-10-16T20:55:38Zmanjit777 wrote "I predicted the waters in 2008 and the last CA earthquake precisely with the Richter figure here on...<p>777 wrote "I predicted the waters in 2008 and<br />
the last CA earthquake precisely with the<br />
Richter figure here on this blog"</p>
<p>Hi 777, I've always liked to give you the benefit of the doubt, but I think you reveal your hand here. And you're holding nothing.</p>
<p>You "predicted" nothing "precisely" (you used the words "bigger than" or ">"), and, actually, all you did was make a claim after an earthquake had already hit California. Many experts were predicting a larger aftershock, none of whom claiming to be Gugu's Nostradamus:</p>
<p><a href="https://www.livescience.com/65876-aftershocks-ridgecrest-earthquake-coming.html" rel="nofollow">https://www.livescience.com/65876-aftershocks-ridgecrest-earthquake-coming.html</a></p>
<p>Some gullible RS initiate misunderstood time zones and thought you predicted the original earthquake, not realising you were just speculating after the event, much like the scientists in the video above.</p>
<p>Please don't try and mislead people.</p>
<p>Thank you.</p>not so fast commented on 'Open Thread 24 (free speech for comments)'tag:typepad.com,2003:6a00d83451c0aa69e20240a4dfbaff200b2019-10-16T06:28:45Z2019-10-16T16:51:37Znot so fastI predict now that RSSB will be huge then - entire main religions will desire to follow the then SatGurus...<p>I predict now that RSSB will be huge then - entire main religions<br />
will desire to follow the then SatGurus<br />
with immense powers and Love and They will show it</p>
<p>Posted by: 🌈 7 🌈 7 🌈 7 🌈 | October 15, 2019 at 12:18 PM</p>
<p>I've seen the future and it will be<br />
I've seen the future and it works</p>
<p>- Prince</p>not so quick commented on 'Open Thread 24 (free speech for comments)'tag:typepad.com,2003:6a00d83451c0aa69e20240a4bb0db0200d2019-10-16T06:18:20Z2019-10-16T16:51:37Znot so quickIn some former comments I explained more BBJ. is just preparing the way and shouldn't be under-estimated. :-) 777 Posted...<p>In some former comments I explained more<br />
BBJ. is just preparing the way and shouldn't be under-estimated. :-)</p>
<p>777</p>
<p>Posted by: 🌈 7 🌈 7 🌈 7 🌈 | October 15, 2019 at 12:18 PM</p>
<p>It'll be fun watching the losers with their ass on fire!!!</p>💥❤️💥 commented on 'Open Thread 24 (free speech for comments)'tag:typepad.com,2003:6a00d83451c0aa69e20240a4bafcdd200d2019-10-16T02:36:56Z2019-10-16T02:36:56Z💥❤️💥Vijay I wrote ">". Take care Posted by: 7 | July 06, 2019 at 06:16 AM 777 Exactly wasn’t it...<p>Vijay<br />
I wrote ">".</p>
<p>Take care</p>
<p>Posted by: 7 | July 06, 2019 at 06:16 AM</p>
<p>777<br />
Exactly wasn’t it “>”? You called it</p>
<p>Posted by: Vijay | July 06, 2019 at 06:36 AM</p>PJ commented on 'Open Thread 24 (free speech for comments)'tag:typepad.com,2003:6a00d83451c0aa69e20240a4baef52200d2019-10-15T23:59:15Z2019-10-15T23:59:15ZPJ@Jesse Completely agree, and that's the outcome I'm looking for to wake everyone up as if there isn't enough to...<p>@Jesse Completely agree, and that's the outcome I'm looking for to wake everyone up as if there isn't enough to do that already. </p>
<p>Things seem to be heading that way, albeit at the speed of one of 777's melting glaciers. </p>Spence Tepper commented on 'Open Thread 24 (free speech for comments)'tag:typepad.com,2003:6a00d83451c0aa69e20240a4df9aeb200b2019-10-15T23:26:57Z2019-10-15T23:26:57ZSpence Tepper Hi Whodunit Relax, Dude. It's all going to plan, right?<p>Hi Whodunit<br />
Relax, Dude. It's all going to plan, right? </p>anami commented on 'Open Thread 24 (free speech for comments)'tag:typepad.com,2003:6a00d83451c0aa69e20240a4df9393200b2019-10-15T22:10:52Z2019-10-15T22:10:52Zanami777-- This saga is epic! How many amazing twists and turns in the story we could see before everyone can...<p>777--</p>
<p>This saga is epic! How many amazing twists and turns in the story we could see before everyone can live happily ever after!</p>Jesse commented on 'Open Thread 24 (free speech for comments)'tag:typepad.com,2003:6a00d83451c0aa69e20240a4bae611200d2019-10-15T21:45:27Z2019-10-15T21:45:27ZJessePJ just ignore 7. He's unhealthy and delusional. He never predicted any earthquakes and just as he didn't predict this...<p>PJ just ignore 7. He's unhealthy and delusional.</p>
<p>He never predicted any earthquakes and just as he didn't predict this massive scandal that I guarantee has lost more followers than gained.</p>
<p>I'll make a prediction and we'll find out who is correct. </p>
<p>My prediction is Gurinder is jailed, forced to give up the "gaddi" and the new low class members of RSSB riot in Punjab and Delhi. Some other family member will take over the org and it'll be no different than any of the million other deras. Die hard tards like 7 will think the new son or cousin is a miracle. Blah blah RSSB halves in size. </p>
<p>The end.</p>Whodunit commented on 'Open Thread 24 (free speech for comments)'tag:typepad.com,2003:6a00d83451c0aa69e20240a4bae5bb200d2019-10-15T21:32:24Z2019-10-15T21:32:24ZWhodunitNot Mini 77777, Nimmi Yes its a fact. Daiichi got cute, they took Religare to arbitration over non declared information...<p>Not Mini 77777, Nimmi</p>
<p>Yes its a fact. </p>
<p>Daiichi got cute, they took Religare to arbitration over non declared information prior to the sale of Ranbaxy to them, where their due diligence investigation must have left much to be desired. And yet somehow managed to sell the somewhat defunct Ranbaxy pharmaceuticals back under Indian management to Sun Pharmaceutical company for higher price.</p>
<p>Now Ranbaxy is back on track under Sun management going from strength to strength, which lends credence to the argument that Malvinder was fundamental to the fallout at Ranbaxy prior to the Daiichi arbitration award. It was largely his doing that brought about the bad karma that ensued, and it's the thing dragging the rest of them to court over spilled milk years of poor Ranbaxy management under his watch. </p>77777 commented on 'Open Thread 24 (free speech for comments)'tag:typepad.com,2003:6a00d83451c0aa69e20240a4df8e2b200b2019-10-15T20:49:43Z2019-10-15T20:49:43Z77777what else has been going on behind our backs? Zillios to the power of (^) Zillion of Regions When U...<p>what else has been going on behind our backs?</p>
<p>Zillios to the power of (^) Zillion of Regions</p>
<p>When U read me you will see that<br />
all that money isn't Mini's Sons at all<br />
They should declare that <br />
Mini can declare that</p>
<p>There is a claim , decennia before that od Daiichi<br />
who sold to Sun for the double</p>
<p>BTW<br />
An 100% innocent person is like a mirror<br />
If you shoot at HIM. it bounces back like boomerang<br />
( and That is no punishment )</p>
<p>777<br />
also and specifically according to kal's books</p>PJ commented on 'Open Thread 24 (free speech for comments)'tag:typepad.com,2003:6a00d83451c0aa69e20240a4df8945200b2019-10-15T19:51:51Z2019-10-15T20:13:14ZPJ@777 He's preparing the way by embezzling a billion dollars? And remember we're not supposed to know about any of...<p>@777<br />
He's preparing the way by embezzling a billion dollars? And remember we're not supposed to know about any of this -- what else has been going on behind our backs? </p>🌈 7 🌈 7🌈 commented on 'Open Thread 24 (free speech for comments)'tag:typepad.com,2003:6a00d83451c0aa69e20240a4badcaf200d2019-10-15T19:47:44Z2019-10-15T20:13:14Z🌈 7 🌈 7🌈https://vis.sciencemag.org/greenlands-dying-ice/ 7 meter 4 Greenland 20 meter for the artics 70 meter for the ant-artics<p><a href="https://vis.sciencemag.org/greenlands-dying-ice/" rel="nofollow">https://vis.sciencemag.org/greenlands-dying-ice/</a></p>
<p>7 meter 4 Greenland</p>
<p>20 meter for the artics</p>
<p>70 meter for the ant-artics</p>🌈 7 🌈 7 🌈 7 🌈 commented on 'Open Thread 24 (free speech for comments)'tag:typepad.com,2003:6a00d83451c0aa69e20240a491a802200c2019-10-15T19:18:57Z2019-10-15T20:13:14Z🌈 7 🌈 7 🌈 7 🌈@Not so quick I predicted the waters in 2008 and the last CA earthquake precisely with the Richter figure here...<p>@Not so quick</p>
<p>I predicted the waters in 2008 and <br />
the last CA earthquake precisely with the<br />
Richter figure here on this blog<br />
2 hours before it happened<br />
Need more?</p>
<p>I predict now that RSSB will be huge then - entire main religions<br />
will desire to follow the then SatGurus <br />
with immense powers and Love and They will show it<br />
In some former comments I explained more<br />
BBJ. is just preparing the way and shouldn't be under-estimated. :-)</p>
<p>777</p>Whodunit commented on 'Open Thread 24 (free speech for comments)'tag:typepad.com,2003:6a00d83451c0aa69e20240a4bad88c200d2019-10-15T19:16:37Z2019-10-15T20:13:14ZWhodunitSpence Tepper the man wearing 2 (or is it 3) hats, one for the inner G and one for the...<p>Spence Tepper the man wearing 2 (or is it 3) hats, one for the inner G and one for the outer G, and one for his latest G, Brian ji.</p>
<p>RSSB is Finished switching hats like a revolving roulette wheel. <br />
One day it's SM1, then SM2, then SM3, and 4 and 4.1, 4.2a, then b, then c, then Guru is great beyond the control of delusional thinking and Maya, and subsequently a complete 180 degree switch around, Guru is a fraud, a charlatan, a con man and a thief, and without any doubts the M. Singh testimony proves it so, thus sayeth 'RSSB is Finished'. </p>I ❤️♋ commented on 'Open Thread 24 (free speech for comments)'tag:typepad.com,2003:6a00d83451c0aa69e20240a4baca1e200d2019-10-15T16:47:01Z2019-10-15T20:13:15ZI ❤️♋Thanks for flashing the warning here. Posted by: a wise owl | October 14, 2019 at 09:09 AM Smart. But...<p>Thanks for flashing the warning here.</p>
<p>Posted by: a wise owl | October 14, 2019 at 09:09 AM</p>
<p>Smart.</p>
<p>But then RSSB_is_FINISHED is absolutely right. No better way to describe what's here.</p>🌈 7 🌈 commented on 'Open Thread 24 (free speech for comments)'tag:typepad.com,2003:6a00d83451c0aa69e20240a4df675b200b2019-10-15T16:09:56Z2019-10-15T20:13:15Z🌈 7 🌈 Who can imagine 200 feet high floods ? “Five Forms of Flooding” is a framework that I use to show...<p>Who can imagine 200 feet high floods ?</p>
<p>“Five Forms of Flooding” is a framework that I use to show how diverse flooding factors can all combine for surprising impact. They are: <br />
1) coastal storms as the most iconic form. Stronger storms have been predicted as the oceans warm, now occuring routinely, as with Hagibis. It is the heat energy in the sea that fundamentally drives cyclones. <br />
2) Record rainfall is occurring all over the world, just as predicted with warmer oceans, evaporating more. More moisture in the air must come down as heaviers rain — or snow. <br />
3) Increased runoff, as rainfall volume accumulates as it moves down valleys, rivers, and even to lower streets. <br />
4) Extreme tides, often called King Tides°, are completely unrelated to weather, following a 19-year cycle, but make other coastal flooding worse. The <br />
5th flood factor is sea level rise – though just getting started, the accelerating pace of rising seas due to melting land ice, will raise all coastal flooding this century to levels unseen in all human civilization.</p>
<p><br />
° Holland 1954<br />
</p>Arjuna commented on 'Open Thread 24 (free speech for comments)'tag:typepad.com,2003:6a00d83451c0aa69e20240a4ba5845200d2019-10-14T18:42:23Z2019-10-15T02:58:18ZArjuna @ 777. I knew your answer. Thank you.<p>@ 777. I knew your answer. Thank you.</p>a wise owl commented on 'Open Thread 24 (free speech for comments)'tag:typepad.com,2003:6a00d83451c0aa69e20240a4ba483d200d2019-10-14T16:09:26Z2019-10-15T02:58:18Za wise owlbut then what is happening here? fraud with intent? siphoning off money death threats this is not even close to...<p>but then what is happening here?</p>
<p>fraud with intent?<br />
siphoning off money<br />
death threats</p>
<p>this is not even close to spiritual</p>
<p>this is clear criminal</p>
<p>only a fool will turn a blind eye</p>
<p>run for the exit and dont look back<br />
no spiritual truth here</p>
<p>Posted by: RSSB is FINISHED | October 13, 2019 at 09:50 AM</p>
<p></p>
<p><br />
Thanks for flashing the warning here.</p>Lton ❤️ jessy without being messy commented on 'Open Thread 24 (free speech for comments)'tag:typepad.com,2003:6a00d83451c0aa69e20240a4911442200c2019-10-14T16:01:26Z2019-10-15T02:58:18ZLton ❤️ jessy without being messyHe calls himself a god and chases money. Posted by: Jesse | October 13, 2019 at 08:32 AM I think...<p>He calls himself a god and chases money.</p>
<p>Posted by: Jesse | October 13, 2019 at 08:32 AM</p>
<p>I think it would be better if he calls himself Lton Johhn and chases jassi holding a glass of lassi trying not to be messy to indulge in something juicy</p>
<p></p>
<p>Posted by: Lton ❤️ jessy without being messy | October 13, 2019 at 10:51 AM</p>🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏 🙏 commented on 'Open Thread 24 (free speech for comments)'tag:typepad.com,2003:6a00d83451c0aa69e20240a4dea3a6200b2019-10-14T03:53:42Z2019-10-14T03:53:42Z🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏 🙏@Jim wrote Jim answers: No, not me. The only worthy Candidate to become the Chosen me: Héé Jim . ....<p>@Jim wrote<br />
Jim answers: No, not me. The only worthy Candidate to become the Chosen </p>
<p>me:<br />
Héé Jim . . . THAT answer shows that You<br />
at the end of your life don't know what kind of Energy<br />
Darshan is</p>
<p>but I guess you wrote to fast or joked<br />
and you know it:<br />
Like the earth was trembling when Jesus died<br />
Or when a SatGuru re-creates the Big Bang with a tiny difference , <br />
just for one disciple</p>
<p>Or God gives a certain knowledge up to the second<br />
Wouldn't U not first ask God. OMG. :-)</p>
<p>777</p>
<p>Both Charan and BabaJI inside are amused Tulsi is rolling His Moustache</p>
<p><br />
</p>😀77😉 commented on 'Open Thread 24 (free speech for comments)'tag:typepad.com,2003:6a00d83451c0aa69e20240a4de61c8200b2019-10-13T15:10:22Z2019-10-13T17:04:16Z😀77😉Let the courts (kal) decide. 😀77😉 ( If I was The GIHF , ...... I would knock kal unconscious, ....<p>Let the courts (kal) decide. 😀77😉<br />
( If I was The GIHF , ...... I would knock kal unconscious, . . . <br />
cancel agreements<br />
. <br />
OMG: What an extreme bad idea )</p>
<p>Radha Soami Ji. </p>
<p>77</p>❤️❤️❤️ 777 💖💖💖 commented on 'Open Thread 24 (free speech for comments)'tag:typepad.com,2003:6a00d83451c0aa69e20240a49050f0200c2019-10-13T00:12:52Z2019-10-13T01:24:19Z❤️❤️❤️ 777 💖💖💖@Arjuna made me smile with "" I agree but not sure why he wants to build a permanent satsang structure...<p>@Arjuna made me smile with <br />
"" I agree but not sure why he wants to build a permanent satsang structure at Haynes. Perhaps a monument.''</p>
<p>me:<br />
Haynes is almost 1OO meter above sea level<br />
and agri fields at 70/ 80</p>
<p>The second serious year Tsunamies will delete London and some more<br />
It's there that I will be born<br />
next going USA because of more water<br />
and more:<br />
That money came originally from the UK</p>
<p>777</p>
<p>don(t worry. >>. Be immortal. 💖💖💖</p>Spence Tepper commented on 'Open Thread 24 (free speech for comments)'tag:typepad.com,2003:6a00d83451c0aa69e20240a4de1842200b2019-10-12T22:49:46Z2019-10-13T01:24:19ZSpence TepperHi Anon You wrote "These 3 have not done anything for their Guru they have served power and money. So...<p>Hi Anon<br />
You wrote<br />
"These 3 have not done anything for their Guru they have served power and money. So much so that they have falsely accused their Guru of many things on top of stealing from him, his family and friends. As I always say the truth will come out."</p>
<p> They are flawed, but they were accepted by their Guru. Just like each of us. Just like the guru when he was first initiated long, long ago. </p>
<p>In that moment 100% responsibility for their development transferred to the Guru.</p>
<p>What they have done, the Guru has done. </p>
<p>What they have failed to do.... </p>
<p>The Guru has failed to do.... </p>
<p>Where they have helped others... </p>
<p>The Guru helped the others. </p>
<p>There is no escape, Anon. </p>
<p>This is Gurinder's choice. No one else. </p>
<p>No one else exists. </p>
<p>And there is no escape for Gurinder.</p>
<p>He is the only actor here. <br />
</p>Spence Tepper commented on 'Open Thread 24 (free speech for comments)'tag:typepad.com,2003:6a00d83451c0aa69e20240a4904825200c2019-10-12T22:40:41Z2019-10-13T01:24:19ZSpence TepperHi Jesse Let's not judge the store clerk. Let's see the force of life in in them.<p>Hi Jesse<br />
Let's not judge the store clerk. Let's see the force of life in in them. <br />
</p>Jesse commented on 'Open Thread 24 (free speech for comments)'tag:typepad.com,2003:6a00d83451c0aa69e20240a4b97411200d2019-10-12T20:55:47Z2019-10-13T01:24:19ZJesse"Imagine a life where gazing into the eyes of the harried and impatient clerk at the store has the same...<p>"Imagine a life where gazing into the eyes of the harried and impatient clerk at the store has the same effect as Master's Darshan.</p>
<p>But we say "oh no, they aren't realized!""</p>
<p>Assuming realization or sainthood exists, how would one know who is or isn't realized? Maybe the store clerk is realized, reading your mind and laughing on the inside because you are the disciple of a fraud and he knows it without letting you know.</p>
<p>It always amazes me to think about my RSSB days when I thought that because I'd chosen a book on a shelf somewhere, it gave me magical powers to know who was enlightened. And that I also knew that the person in that same book who was called enlightened was the one.</p>
<p>I don't believe in enlightenment in any of its names or forms anymore, but if it did exist and I wanted to find one who had it, I certainly wouldn't limit my search to costumed men whose pictures are published in books and who've amassed large amounts of followers. </p>
<p>Osho or Manjit might be kind enough to remind us of the name of the Indian saint who said he had 20 or 30 gurus that included trees, deer and random passer-by. He saw signs of God in everything, everywhere.</p>🇫🇷. 7 commented on 'Open Thread 24 (free speech for comments)'tag:typepad.com,2003:6a00d83451c0aa69e20240a4de0cd3200b2019-10-12T20:42:21Z2019-10-13T01:24:19Z🇫🇷. 7Spenc said "Until the facts arise of their human failings." Hi stone thrower So bad photoshopping - I have never...<p>Spenc said<br />
"Until the facts arise of their human failings."<br />
Hi stone thrower<br />
So bad photoshopping - I have never seen - and what a stupid party</p>
<p>@Brian I thought your IQ a little higher than allowing such fabricated fake bull shit</p>
<p>@DeraBabaJSJ<br />
in 2025 to have my 90th birthday there , InShallah<br />
- will even be better than my previous 4 vacations there</p>
<p>@Boss < Love & respect occurs only in meditation<br />
</p>Anon commented on 'Open Thread 24 (free speech for comments)'tag:typepad.com,2003:6a00d83451c0aa69e20240a49039cc200c2019-10-12T20:11:06Z2019-10-13T01:24:19ZAnonSpence you really should stop assuming things for your own good. These 3 have not done anything for their Guru...<p>Spence you really should stop assuming things for your own good. These 3 have not done anything for their Guru they have served power and money. So much so that they have falsely accused their Guru of many things on top of stealing from him, his family and friends. As I always say the truth will come out. </p>Spence Tepper commented on 'Open Thread 24 (free speech for comments)'tag:typepad.com,2003:6a00d83451c0aa69e20240a4de0383200b2019-10-12T19:18:16Z2019-10-12T19:41:14ZSpence TepperBut this is also Brian Ji's day. For he warned us all that magical thinking is not without harm. It's...<p>But this is also Brian Ji's day.<br />
For he warned us all that magical thinking is not without harm. <br />
It's not innocent. It can be disastrous and harmful. </p>Spence Tepper commented on 'Open Thread 24 (free speech for comments)'tag:typepad.com,2003:6a00d83451c0aa69e20240a4b96969200d2019-10-12T19:08:41Z2019-10-12T19:41:14ZSpence TepperIf you read the words "GOD" written in every cell, you apprehend a lesson. If you read the reflection in...<p>If you read the words "GOD" written in every cell, you apprehend a lesson.</p>
<p>If you read the reflection in a pond, you will see the word "DOG"</p>
<p>And that will be your God.</p>
<p>Try to find it in yourself, not reflected in the world. </p>
<p>Not to insult dogs. And if you had to worship some external representation of God, dogs are loyal and obedient, as God is, always serving us their life without lapse. Dogs do not have the capacity for duplicity. They are purer by design. </p>
<p>But we are not dogs, so we worship other humans. I like the quaker approach where friends take turns reflecting that higher truth. </p>
<p>Enjoy the spirit of life you find in yourself. Then you can see it rightly, and not backwards, in this looking glass world where truth and shadow are easily confused, and the actual source of life hard to discern. </p>
<p>People who need to worship another human being do terrible things in defense of their Guru. </p>
<p>Imagine Malvinder, Shivinder and Sunhil, following Gurinder's disastrous financial advice, spending their lives juggling income statements, paying off shell companies to write false checks all to cover the money Gurinder and his family never intended to repay. And this, because Gurinder said they would all go from rich to richer. India would rise and the world would fall at her feet. The windfall is just around the corner! Hang in there. The fraud is only temporary. All will soon be paid off and more.. The world will see the greatness of our Guru!</p>
<p> Imagine that every day when something deeper inside whispered "this is wrong," ..and they each to themselves said "That is Kal speaking! My Guru is perfect! My Guru says this is right! We are on a path to greatness!" </p>
<p>Tragic. To lose the ability to know right from wrong. To destroy the ability in one's own capacity to know right from wrong. And then with each mounting failure, to feed the ego with more pride and justification, to claim this is just a test of one's loyalty to their Guru, God in human form. Flawless. And the greater the harm being done to others, the greater the test! </p>
<p>And then when the light is shined upon the whole scandel, the guru, standing upon their kingdom of real estate and other worldly gains purchased with the stolen funds claims '"I know nothing'... I owe nothing." </p>
<p>And the Sangat cheers them! </p>
<p>This is Dog day afternoon.</p>Arjuna commented on 'Open Thread 24 (free speech for comments)'tag:typepad.com,2003:6a00d83451c0aa69e20240a49033ae200c2019-10-12T19:07:34Z2019-10-12T19:41:14ZArjuna @ wise owl I would like to hear what GSD says about Kal?<p>@ wise owl</p>
<p>I would like to hear what GSD says about Kal?</p>Arjuna commented on 'Open Thread 24 (free speech for comments)'tag:typepad.com,2003:6a00d83451c0aa69e20240a4b9692f200d2019-10-12T19:06:00Z2019-10-12T19:41:14ZArjuna @ wise owl Truth be told I'm not sure what I seek or not seek. We all get lost sometimes...<p>@ wise owl</p>
<p>Truth be told I'm not sure what I seek or not seek. We all get lost sometimes and when there is no light or guidance one becomes totally unemotional to anything. I stopped going to satsang in 2005. I know a lot about what he says as people tell me. And sometimes he pops into my thoughts...</p>
<p>You sound interesting though. Have a good day </p>The Boss commented on 'Open Thread 24 (free speech for comments)'tag:typepad.com,2003:6a00d83451c0aa69e20240a4b96576200d2019-10-12T18:33:12Z2019-10-12T19:41:14ZThe BossTake the lessons, and love them, and then live them. Posted by: Spence Tepper | October 12, 2019 at 09:18...<p>Take the lessons, and love them, and then live them.</p>
<p>Posted by: Spence Tepper | October 12, 2019 at 09:18 AM</p>
<p>We have already taken the lessons, UNDERSTOOD THEM WELL, love and live them.</p>
<p>Result: our profound love and respect for GSD and not your BrianJi (lol)</p>a wise owl commented on 'Open Thread 24 (free speech for comments)'tag:typepad.com,2003:6a00d83451c0aa69e20240a4ddf9ea200b2019-10-12T17:25:13Z2019-10-12T19:41:14Za wise owl@ wise Owl . Hello. GSD has said there is no Kal. So sorry there are no rules being adhered...<p>@ wise Owl . Hello.</p>
<p>GSD has said there is no Kal. So sorry there are no rules being adhered to.</p>
<p>We create our own fate. No fate but what we make.</p>
<p>Posted by: Arjuna | October 11, 2019 at 12:41 PM</p>
<p>Hello Arjuna,</p>
<p>For a proclaimed non believer you seem to know a lot about what GSD says, not says or utters in his interactions. Maybe even more than we believers who have listened and listen multiple times year on year.</p>
<p>I could quote GSD on Kal and so Karma as well verbatim. But what's the use? You aren't 'seeking'. </p>
<p>Then you say "We create our own fate. No fate but what we make."</p>
<p>I could use this to events in your life. Again I won't. </p>
<p> </p>DBJSJ commented on 'Open Thread 24 (free speech for comments)'tag:typepad.com,2003:6a00d83451c0aa69e20240a4b95ca6200d2019-10-12T16:48:25Z2019-10-12T19:41:14ZDBJSJ@777 So when are you planning to go to Beas?<p>@777</p>
<p>So when are you planning to go to Beas?</p>Spence Tepper commented on 'Open Thread 24 (free speech for comments)'tag:typepad.com,2003:6a00d83451c0aa69e20240a4ddf3ee200b2019-10-12T16:18:18Z2019-10-12T16:47:18ZSpence TepperImagine a life where gazing into the eyes of the harried and impatient clerk at the store has the same...<p>Imagine a life where gazing into the eyes of the harried and impatient clerk at the store has the same effect as Master's Darshan. </p>
<p>But we say "oh no, they aren't realized!"</p>
<p>It was never about them. Within them is everything. <br />
It's about each of us. <br />
The Master is Dumbo's feather.<br />
Worthy of praise, living a clean life, being a positive example, representing the divine. Until the facts arise of their human failings.</p>
<p>But the perfection of the creation and of life is within each of us. We can find that inspiration within ourselves. We are all connected and always were connected. </p>
<p>Take the lessons, and love them, and then live them. </p>💥❤️💥 - 777 -💥❤️💥 commented on 'Open Thread 24 (free speech for comments)'tag:typepad.com,2003:6a00d83451c0aa69e20240a4b95056200d2019-10-12T14:31:19Z2019-10-12T16:47:18Z💥❤️💥 - 777 -💥❤️💥I am in France but 2 hours ago I got an email from my good satsangi Friend In Delhi, High...<p>I am in France but 2 hours ago I got an email from my good satsangi Friend In Delhi, High Level IT networking security specialist who helps me often <br />
</p>
<p>Dear Brother Ji,<br />
Radha Soami Ji.</p>
<p>By HIS grace, I visited HIM today and got His amazing darshan.</p>
<p>I went with mother and father. H wanted to go but had to stay,<br />
A also stayed back at home but cried so much as she wanted to go with me - OMG - very difficult to see kids crying.</p>
<p>But, what a day it was today.<br />
I felt of attending His satsang after years of gap.<br />
Something happened today which gave me much more happiness even more than the news of hearing that my. xxxxxxxxxxxx. xxxxxxxxxx. xxxxxxxxx ( something private )</p>
<p>In Delhi and Beas, HE gives darshan on moving car because sangat has grown SO HUGE.<br />
I was sitting very close to the path of the car,<br />
HE usually gives Drishit with an angle of about 30° in the moving car <br />
and it's very hard to feel the eye contact with HIM - almost never happens.<br />
But, today when HIS car moved past the row I was sitting in, He slightly turned and He zoomed into my eyes for a fraction of second,<br />
and it put a big big smile on my face and I wished HIM RADHASOAMI</p>
<p><br />
The QnA session was great as usual:</p>
<p>HE ridiculed the over indulgence and sharing of daily activities on Facebook and Instagram,<br />
put so much emphasis on continuing to attend to the daily meditation for a good 2-3 hours.</p>
<p><br />
what a day it was - I am still feeling His gaze.</p>
<p>will try to visit tomorrow as well - Sunday my favourite day when I get to hear HIM for around 1.5 hours.</p>
<p></p>
<p>RSJI<br />
</p>Jesse commented on 'Open Thread 24 (free speech for comments)'tag:typepad.com,2003:6a00d83451c0aa69e20240a48fd90b200c2019-10-11T23:54:45Z2019-10-12T03:55:46ZJesseFor those who are interested, I've been inspired by the ever pure and mentally healthy Spence Tepper, and am starting...<p>For those who are interested, I've been inspired by the ever pure and mentally healthy Spence Tepper, and am starting fundraising campaigns for Tom Petters and Bernie Madoff, both fine men who served humanity and were unfairly judged and sentenced to prison sentences for nothing but being great men who helped poor people by taking their money and making more money with it.</p>
<p>I'll be setting up a bitcoin wallet so you can make donations anonymously if you'd like. </p>
<p>I'm a really good person, and I just want to help innocent billionaires who offered their all for the benefit of the world, because I'm such a good person who is so good, and my heart is so pure and full of goodness.</p>💖💖💖 commented on 'Open Thread 24 (free speech for comments)'tag:typepad.com,2003:6a00d83451c0aa69e20240a4dda287200b2019-10-11T22:58:40Z2019-10-12T03:55:46Z💖💖💖GSD has said there is no Kal. me; until U make one. 💖💖💖 One can always look back me: or...<p>GSD has said there is no Kal.<br />
me;<br />
until U make one. 💖💖💖</p>
<p>One can always look back<br />
me:<br />
or forwards - with some love >. He does not - One can see them even at the other side of earth up tu alpha Centauri<br />
he gives some sound and that's it >>. Be immortal. 💖💖💖</p>
<p><br />
</p>anami commented on 'Open Thread 24 (free speech for comments)'tag:typepad.com,2003:6a00d83451c0aa69e20240a4b8f8a4200d2019-10-11T19:48:51Z2019-10-11T20:23:34Zanami7-- One can always look back and say, "It seemed like a good idea at the time."<p>7--<br />
One can always look back and say, "It seemed like a good idea at the time."</p>Arjuna commented on 'Open Thread 24 (free speech for comments)'tag:typepad.com,2003:6a00d83451c0aa69e20240a4b8f855200d2019-10-11T19:41:09Z2019-10-11T20:23:34ZArjuna @ wise Owl . Hello. GSD has said there is no Kal. So sorry there are no rules being adhered...<p>@ wise Owl . Hello.</p>
<p>GSD has said there is no Kal. So sorry there are no rules being adhered to. </p>
<p> We create our own fate. No fate but what we make.</p>a wise owl commented on 'Open Thread 24 (free speech for comments)'tag:typepad.com,2003:6a00d83451c0aa69e20240a48fbc79200c2019-10-11T18:30:14Z2019-10-11T20:23:34Za wise owlIf he cant handle a couple of million dollars, how are a million satsangis garunteed salvation? Posted by: Neon |...<p>If he cant handle a couple of million dollars, how are a million satsangis garunteed salvation?</p>
<p>Posted by: Neon | October 10, 2019 at 10:34 PM</p>
<p>Hello Neon</p>
<p>Elementary......</p>
<p>The game with even billion dollars is played per Kals' rules and even the physical manifestation isn't excluded too. No routine interference by the ONE.</p>
<p>and</p>
<p>The game of salvation is played by that ONE's rules. Maybe by the ONE's whims or probably by HIM alone through his manifestations (honestly I am not wise enough to understand the ONE's ways here). And here all Kal can do is whine at his loss.</p>
<p>Maybe @777 can throw some light on how the ONE chooses his marked souls.</p>
<p>I hope you are on board the train to salvation.</p>
<p>PS:<br />
(1) GSD is vehemently dispelling long held notion of guaranteed salvation - no meditation -----> no salvation.</p>
<p>(2) trying really hard to not sound or be seen attacking. That's the exclusive right of ex-ers in here. LoL</p>
<p>Posted by: a wise owl | October 11, 2019 at 05:01 AM</p>😀7😉 commented on 'Open Thread 24 (free speech for comments)'tag:typepad.com,2003:6a00d83451c0aa69e20240a4dd7ebd200b2019-10-11T17:12:29Z2019-10-11T20:23:34Z😀7😉I thought surely I'd succeed trading short. That didn't work either and was courting disaster! There was a guy who...<p>I thought surely I'd succeed trading short. That didn't work either and was courting disaster! There was a guy who lost $106,000 overnight caught short in KBIO. Never short! Never, never, never!</p>
<p>Anami<br />
I had that x0 times worse by HIS GRACE<br />
Now know that gambling is not HIS Way<br />
It prevents to see His Light </p>
<p>7 </p>💥❤️💥 commented on 'Open Thread 24 (free speech for comments)'tag:typepad.com,2003:6a00d83451c0aa69e20240a4b8dacd200d2019-10-11T14:21:33Z2019-10-11T17:06:11Z💥❤️💥- Whatever will happen will be HIS MAUJ 777<p>-</p>
<p>Whatever will happen</p>
<p>will be HIS MAUJ</p>
<p>777</p>Michael commented on 'Open Thread 24 (free speech for comments)'tag:typepad.com,2003:6a00d83451c0aa69e20240a48f85cb200c2019-10-11T08:25:43Z2019-10-11T17:06:12ZMichaelSpence Ah. It was an allegory. Sorry I missed it. Anyways, it is a good story, much better than the...<p>Spence <br />
Ah. It was an allegory.<br />
Sorry I missed it.<br />
Anyways, it is a good story, much better than the anodyne allegories and analogies I’ve heard over the decades at Satsang.<br />
Cheers<br />
M</p>🙏 commented on 'Open Thread 24 (free speech for comments)'tag:typepad.com,2003:6a00d83451c0aa69e20240a4b8a528200d2019-10-11T02:15:04Z2019-10-11T02:30:06Z🙏I have NOT ONCE heard anything offensive or out of line. I only see/hear and feel the love currents of...<p> I have NOT ONCE heard anything offensive or out of line. I only see/hear and feel the love currents of Hazur flowing from BBJ. Maybe access a little more why you are so bent of bad mouthing him and look at yourself for a change. <br />
Please don’t be offended with my comment.<br />
Posted by: Vijay</p>
<p>Thank You Vijay<br />
That's a complete other description instead of<br />
one man of one day cannot stand sexy words if it were</p>
<p>If I had been present It would surely had been for me a grand manmukh on<br />
4 of the 5 aspects<br />
and certainly on 69 and butt Jim<br />
But you found that out already</p>
<p>But I can by His Grace without any efforts from myself<br />
also be present above the 7th chakra where only Love exists and no<br />
movies</p>
<p>Also towards our Masters Compassion will be appreciated by The Holy Ghost<br />
and innumerable lower Ghosts<br />
Stop the the thoughts Jim, that's why you were born<br />
NOT for observing God's SatGurus and their karmas</p>
<p>777</p>
<p>please you people</p>
<p> google above at the right side : PHIL UK grandfather<br />
and <br />
see that there is no grain of karma involved<br />
from kal's standpoint<br />
Myself btw , I am personal witness about other millions from Europe then freely<br />
given to Gurinder for any Goal where HE thought it would be fine<br />
and the almost free medications (Generics) for the poor<br />
are high high above the top of the list</p>
<p>Mr Mohan had not the money needed</p>
<p>ps<br />
Jim<br />
Don't think that the earth magnetic/etheric sphere of dreams and<br />
so called astral travelling<br />
has a bit to do with the Astral Region<br />
You make Brahma/Yahweh nasty saying that</p>
<p></p>
<p><br />
</p>Spence Tepper commented on 'Open Thread 24 (free speech for comments)'tag:typepad.com,2003:6a00d83451c0aa69e20240a48f398d200c2019-10-10T16:20:16Z2019-10-10T17:43:25ZSpence Tepper Hi Michael Thank you for asking. No this is my thought, while sitting on the plane last evening. Sam is...<p>Hi Michael<br />
Thank you for asking. No this is my thought, while sitting on the plane last evening. </p>
<p>Sam is more of a Witcher /The Fixer fan, and his own Manga art is along those lines... We went to New York Comic Con last weekend and had a great time.</p>
<p>The words of Simran are the pieces of scrap. They appear as nothing of note. But the angle of their approach, the way they are held and consciously digested in that internal poetry (only to transform into life and digest us!) was my thought. How to reflect what happens? Hence the story. It is a matter of focus and unfolding, transforming, unlocking a natural treasure from nothing more than gentle and persistent focus. That was my thought. </p>💖 commented on 'Open Thread 24 (free speech for comments)'tag:typepad.com,2003:6a00d83451c0aa69e20240a48f3363200c2019-10-10T15:18:05Z2019-10-10T17:43:25Z💖Not something to do while driving. It's not a drug IT can easily do the driving 4U 777<p>Not something to do while driving.</p>
<p>It's not a drug<br />
IT can easily do the driving 4U</p>
<p>777<br />
</p>Michael commented on 'Open Thread 24 (free speech for comments)'tag:typepad.com,2003:6a00d83451c0aa69e20240a4b84b52200d2019-10-10T09:03:34Z2019-10-10T17:43:25ZMichaelNice one Spence. Is this a story your son wrote, either whole or with you?<p>Nice one Spence.<br />
Is this a story your son wrote, either whole or with you?<br />
</p>Spence Tepper commented on 'Open Thread 24 (free speech for comments)'tag:typepad.com,2003:6a00d83451c0aa69e20240a4dcb2be200b2019-10-10T00:02:07Z2019-10-10T02:38:21ZSpence TepperAn aging retired auto mechanic went to his local favorite haunt, a scrap yard, to see what he could find....<p>An aging retired auto mechanic went to his local favorite haunt, a scrap yard, to see what he could find. He had long since stopped repairing cars but still had an interest in technology, and loved to poke around wrecks to get a glimpse of their inner workings.</p>
<p>His friend, Leroy, who ran the junk yard, and who lived in a small and worn home within walking distance greeted his old friend as he totttered through the chain linked gates. </p>
<p>"Hey Tom."</p>
<p>"Leroy"</p>
<p><br />
"What you up to?"</p>
<p>"Nuthin. Anything interesting?"</p>
<p>"Yah, actually. I want you to look at something I can't figure out. "</p>
<p>They walked past four aisles of wrecks stacked 20 feet high and down the fifth about half way. On the ground in the middle of the aisle were 20 lengths of what looked like tubes of a light alloy with uneven lengths and ends perfectly sealed, but at odd angles.</p>
<p>The two men staired at the pile of tubes in silence for several seconds</p>
<p>"What is it?" asked Tom</p>
<p>"You tell me. Your the expert."</p>
<p>"Shit, I don't have a clue. Too nice for interior frame, chassis, or engine housing." </p>
<p>Tom picked up a piece, "So light. Aircraft parts?"</p>
<p>"Do you know any one who could tell?" Leroy asked. </p>
<p>"Can I take these home for a few days and think about it?" asked Tom</p>
<p>"Wear yourself out, old man" Leroy replied. </p>
<p>Over the next week Tom searched the internet, held the pieces, tried to see if they fit together somehow, and thought. He called some old aircraft repair friends from long ago. Everyone had a guess of one kind or another, but nothing panned out. </p>
<p>He resigned himself to the thought that they belonged to a much larger and much more complex machine or some huge structure, and that what he had was entirely incomplete. He just had a few loose parts. There was no "whole" he could make with these 20 pieces. They belonged to something else. </p>
<p>But he couldn't let go of the idea that these twenty pieces actually were something. One night he woke with an idea. He arranged the pieces on the floor. He arranged them as outlines to other shapes. He tried dozens of complex shapes. Then he began to notice that several pieces were of similar length. When he held the uneven edges on the ends of two tubes together and turned them just so, they locked in place, as if by very strong magnetism. And once they locked into place, their surfaces were so well manufactured that no seem was visible on the joint no matter how close you looked. And once they locked, they could not be twisted apart. They looked like one solid angle. He tried it with other pieces but no joy. Tom figured it had to be an exact fit for the correct pieces to trigger the mechanism. </p>
<p>Tom felt his spine tingle. He was onto something new, and strange, from an intelligence he was just beginning to get to know. </p>
<p>It was midnight when the first two ribs locked into place. <br />
"This is gonna need coffee".Tom put on a pot and continued. </p>
<p>Four hours later he had what looked like seven different simple geometric shapes arrayed on his small living room floor. </p>
<p>They looked familiar. Tom went to the internet and found pictures of tangrams... Shapes built by different arrangements of the same seven pieces. </p>
<p>He was excited, but tired, and fell asleep on the couch. In his dream multi - colored tangram pieces arranged themselves into birds, towers, cows, sailboats, cats, letters and numbers. </p>
<p>From a stack of twenty mishapen looking tubes, seven perfect geometric shapes, and from these? </p>
<p>The next day, after breakfast, Tom began to play with his tangram pieces, arranging them into different shapes on the floor, following the guidelines on the internet. </p>
<p>Then, an idea came into his mind. He tried to rearrange the shapes to match. He couldn't figure it out, and went out to lunch. </p>
<p>He got distracted and forgot about his earlier excitement. He pulled the shapes up in one corner near the curtains and they gathered dust there for a year. He simply forgot. And when he was vacuuming he moved the stack of pieces out and back as if it was just a simple and meaningless puzzle. </p>
<p>But one day, when he had caught a bad cold and was unable to go out, he lay on the couch staring around the room, and his eyes fell upon the huge puzzle pieces. </p>
<p>He took the pieces and in minutes it came to him. As he set each piece next to the other, they locked into place as if they were one piece. He knew he was on to something. </p>
<p>When all seven formed the shape of a door, they shimmered, and a portal of light opened where there had been just shapes on the floor. </p>
<p>From 20 pieces of scrap. </p>
<p>That was the last day of Tom's normal life, and his first day of an impossible adventure. </p>SP commented on 'Open Thread 24 (free speech for comments)'tag:typepad.com,2003:6a00d83451c0aa69e20240a48e452e200c2019-10-08T16:29:41Z2019-10-08T19:43:20ZSP2 ways -HE orders . . . (seems to be a request) -The disciple asks . . . HE will...<p>2 ways<br />
-HE orders . . . (seems to be a request)<br />
-The disciple asks . . . HE will warn the disciple about new karmas</p>
<p>I'm not a good example of a Gurmukhi , not at all<br />
and thanks 4warning not to arrange my next life to complicated<br />
Both ways are SO marvellous</p>
<p>777</p>
<p>Posted by: 🙏 | October 08, 2019 at 03:11 AM</p>
<p>Oh yes HE orders (or requests as you say). I know this. Not just at Astral levels but also at the physical level.</p>🙏 commented on 'Open Thread 24 (free speech for comments)'tag:typepad.com,2003:6a00d83451c0aa69e20240a48e1ff7200c2019-10-08T10:11:42Z2019-10-08T19:43:20Z🙏Since when is this permitted? Posted by: SP | October 07, 2019 at 10:38 PM It's NOT . . ....<p>Since when is this permitted?<br />
Posted by: SP | October 07, 2019 at 10:38 PM</p>
<p>It's NOT . . . on our own. 🙏</p>
<p>777</p>
<p>2 ways <br />
-HE orders . . . (seems to be a request)<br />
-The disciple asks . . . HE will warn the disciple about new karmas</p>
<p>I'm not a good example of a Gurmukhi , not at all<br />
and thanks 4warning not to arrange my next life to complicated<br />
Both ways are SO marvellous</p>
<p>777</p>a wise owl commented on 'Open Thread 24 (free speech for comments)'tag:typepad.com,2003:6a00d83451c0aa69e20240a4dbe7e4200b2019-10-08T08:20:15Z2019-10-08T19:43:20Za wise owlA bird lived in a tree It ate mice It said twit twooo How is that wise Posted by: Mike...<p>A bird lived in a tree<br />
It ate mice<br />
It said twit twooo<br />
How is that wise<br />
Posted by: Mike England | October 07, 2019 at 01:57 PM</p>
<p>Just ensure you speak less (even in here) and hear more. With time you will have the answer to even what you ask now.</p>
<p>I pray the bird in you evolves to a wise old owl one day.</p>
<p>Cheers</p>
<p>AWO</p>SP commented on 'Open Thread 24 (free speech for comments)'tag:typepad.com,2003:6a00d83451c0aa69e20240a48e0c00200c2019-10-08T05:38:27Z2019-10-08T19:43:20ZSP"But it can happen that it is a Cry for help! Simran will know that and help U to liberate...<p>"But it can happen that it is a Cry for help!<br />
Simran will know that and help U to liberate a little that entity"</p>
<p>@777</p>
<p>Since when is this permitted?<br />
</p>SP commented on 'Open Thread 24 (free speech for comments)'tag:typepad.com,2003:6a00d83451c0aa69e20240a48e0a83200c2019-10-08T05:20:11Z2019-10-08T19:43:20ZSPAs Shri Ram kills Ravana As Maa Durga kills Mahish-asura And we in India celebrate the victory of good over...<p><br />
As Shri Ram kills Ravana<br />
As Maa Durga kills Mahish-asura</p>
<p>And we in India celebrate the victory of good over evil this day</p>
<p>May these good over evil stories<br />
Inspire you towards your own victories over our 5 external evils - Kaam, Krodh, Lobh, Moh, Ahankar</p>
<p>Wishing all my brothers and sisters here a Very Happy Dussehra 2019.</p>💖 commented on 'Open Thread 24 (free speech for comments)'tag:typepad.com,2003:6a00d83451c0aa69e20240a48de48d200c2019-10-07T21:36:50Z2019-10-08T03:28:22Z💖 @Jesse So if I sit in meditation and suddenly hear something supposedly internally, what way do I have to verify...<p>@Jesse</p>
<p>So if I sit in meditation and suddenly hear something supposedly internally, what way do I have to verify what caused the sound?</p>
<p>Simran will destroy it if it's false and embellish it when it is Truth</p>
<p>When it is The Master He will be embellished</p>
<p>It all depends on which Chakra was energised<br />
Most of the time the so called "astral travelling" is not at all<br />
Astral but within the magnetic /etheric sphere of the earth<br />
That stuff is enormously FULL of entities<br />
a little sniff of simian and they can't stand the Light</p>
<p>But it can happen that it is a Cry for help!<br />
Simran will know that and help U to liberate a little that entity<br />
No books can be written about the enormity of this Path<br />
of 5 words 💖 We can really become ONE with The Creator </p>
<p>777</p>Mike England commented on 'Open Thread 24 (free speech for comments)'tag:typepad.com,2003:6a00d83451c0aa69e20240a4dbb405200b2019-10-07T20:57:19Z2019-10-08T03:28:22ZMike England A bird lived in a tree It ate mice It said twit twooo How is that wise<p>A bird lived in a tree<br />
It ate mice<br />
It said twit twooo<br />
How is that wise<br />
</p>Arjuna commented on 'Open Thread 24 (free speech for comments)'tag:typepad.com,2003:6a00d83451c0aa69e20240a4b70cab200d2019-10-07T18:49:27Z2019-10-07T19:45:06ZArjuna @ 777. I love you too.<p>@ 777. I love you too.<br />
</p>a wise owl commented on 'Open Thread 24 (free speech for comments)'tag:typepad.com,2003:6a00d83451c0aa69e20240a48dd270200c2019-10-07T18:19:25Z2019-10-07T19:45:06Za wise owlDo you have an answer to the question? Is Qi the same as shabd or prana? They're not the same...<p>Do you have an answer to the question? Is Qi the same as shabd or prana? They're not the same words, but those who believe in them would claim each has some similar effects on the mind and body, but also some very different effects as well as different origins and powers.</p>
<p>So if I sit in meditation and suddenly hear something supposedly internally, what way do I have to verify what caused the sound? Why could it not be the "holy spirit" that I heard, and not "shabd?"</p>
<p>Is it unwise to ask questions?</p>
<p>Posted by: Jesse | September 25, 2019 at 07:53 AM</p>
<p>Jesse,</p>
<p>They may be the same or one of the numerous sub-set manifestation of the One. So what matters is what you set out seeking and then receive the directions from an appropriate teacher/master.</p>
<p>It's not unwise to ask questions provided you are a seeker and/or actually have some of the inner experiences which you need clarification on. Btw I am told that the only letters that GSD replies to personally are those which concern inner experiences narrated by followers.</p>
<p>But in your case there are diktat like utterances and which make it clear that you aren't seeking. Some examples</p>
<p>- Sounds you hear in meditation are not "shabd."<br />
- The creation of the world is not the product of "shabd."<br />
- the holy spirit of the bible is not shabd.</p>
<p>Not a sign of a seeker.</p>
<p>So either back these up with verifiable evidence or if you don't know first shut up on these matters and then go seek answers</p>
<p>Am sure you would have heard the nursery rhyme which goes as</p>
<p>A wise old owl lived in an oak<br />
The more he saw the less he spoke<br />
The less he spoke the more he heard.<br />
Why can’t we all be like that wise old bird?</p>🙏🙏🙏 commented on 'Open Thread 24 (free speech for comments)'tag:typepad.com,2003:6a00d83451c0aa69e20240a48dc8e0200c2019-10-07T16:33:50Z2019-10-07T19:45:06Z🙏🙏🙏@Arjuna 🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏 🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏 YOU are God too, amusing HIMself 🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏 🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏 Why do you eat? 🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏 🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏<p>@Arjuna<br />
🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏 🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏<br />
YOU are God too, amusing HIMself<br />
🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏 🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏<br />
Why do you eat?<br />
🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏 🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏<br />
</p>❌ commented on 'Open Thread 24 (free speech for comments)'tag:typepad.com,2003:6a00d83451c0aa69e20240a48dc7df200c2019-10-07T16:25:23Z2019-10-07T19:45:06Z❌Sorry for having placed this where it belonged, . . belongs .... will belong enforcing you to use the guillotine...<p>Sorry for having placed this where it belonged, . . belongs .... will belong<br />
enforcing you to use the guillotine </p>
<p>❌</p>
<p>You are incorrect with non-existing<br />
BUT U CAN MAKE IT CORRECT!</p>
<p>There are many incarnations possible to make that happen<br />
that is where consciousness is at the lowest</p>
<p>Not a punishment - I is where your heart is now</p>
<p>7</p>
<p>don't delete my posts !</p>
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</p>° - commented on 'Open Thread 24 (free speech for comments)'tag:typepad.com,2003:6a00d83451c0aa69e20240a4b6fec1200d2019-10-07T16:11:05Z2019-10-07T19:45:06Z° - ° Prakiti<p>° Prakiti</p>666 commented on 'Open Thread 24 (free speech for comments)'tag:typepad.com,2003:6a00d83451c0aa69e20240a4b6f842200d2019-10-07T15:02:45Z2019-10-07T19:45:06Z666"Why he needed cancer treatment Because He didn't ask Charan to stop that!" Why the cancer is the baffling bit....<p>"Why he needed cancer treatment<br />
Because He didn't ask Charan to stop that!"</p>
<p>Why the cancer is the baffling bit. Any answer @777?</p>Slave_of_GSD commented on 'Open Thread 24 (free speech for comments)'tag:typepad.com,2003:6a00d83451c0aa69e20240a4db61f1200b2019-10-07T08:42:53Z2019-10-07T19:45:06ZSlave_of_GSDMay I ask a question. Why is GSD like most indians so determined to buy land??? Arjuna, Anything wrong with...<p>May I ask a question. Why is GSD like most indians so determined to buy land??? </p>
<p>Arjuna,</p>
<p>Anything wrong with buying land? Buy gold instead or maybe buy into Apple Inc or Microsoft? Maybe your choice could be Berkshire.</p>💖💖💖 commented on 'Open Thread 24 (free speech for comments)'tag:typepad.com,2003:6a00d83451c0aa69e20240a48d6493200c2019-10-06T23:58:42Z2019-10-07T03:24:06Z💖💖💖Although I have seen Him Radiant° like Charan I will not at all use that as an argument Because I...<p>Although I have seen Him Radiant° like Charan<br />
I will not at all use that as an argument</p>
<p>Because I see Him inside,. . while He isn't my Master<br />
although They are not different . . . </p>
<p>Why he needed cancer treatment<br />
Because He didn't ask Charan to stop that!<br />
Me: I would have done that!<br />
I used Simran most of the time - didn't exclude business - omg - :-)</p>
<p>When sitting before Gurinder, even He in Jeans<br />
I have that phenomenon to flash , run, jump, spring<br />
to my Crown Chakra<br />
Like He is a Neodynium° Magnet<br />
and me a punaise</p>
<p>Al this will not help you because it's me<br />
and the brothers here will say : autosuggestion at best hypnose<br />
Wow - I like it<br />
If it did help U you wouldn't t ask me and have read my comments</p>
<p>I don't know if I hv the rights to break the silence rules<br />
but I did here many times and God<br />
in Gurinders form is smiling<br />
Charan is laughing, Sawan is amused<br />
Jagat is pondering, Jaimal : One cannot imaging,<br />
Set Shiv Dayal and Tulsi , : so much of another ballgame<br />
and so many more of Them</p>
<p>This is The RSSB Path<br />
It's extasis, a whole other strange orgasm High Up</p>
<p>About the land : I have suggested at least 3 times here<br />
The Earth will radically change , climate change is exponential to the 3rd power , next the ^ 4th<br />
Nobody has the slightest idea how typhones and so<br />
will rage the waters up with strokes as a hammer<br />
to >50 meters<br />
I trust Gurinder is creating relative safe places but I am not 100% sure<br />
I repeat<br />
I hope HE will manage asap to invest the billion<br />
into a trillion<br />
and will make errors underway<br />
but not like saoudis with drugs brothels and yachts</p>
<p>He is not all knowing - He knows what these above Masters<br />
give Him to know at precise moments<br />
Like in the military<br />
I might know more than HE does </p>
<p><br />
The puncher of Osho, . . <br />
HE has the package of Nam<br />
He is astonished by all what happens to Him </p>
<p>Me and You Arjuna get also what is needed for us<br />
read the Gheeta!</p>
<p>Convince me of a better super Path<br />
and I wil collude ( from collusion )<br />
But after having seen the One-ness<br />
that might be difficult</p>
<p>I love U too Arjuna</p>
<p>💖💖💖</p>
<p>Also everything , incl God in Pratiki is DYNAMIC<br />
WAVES</p>
<p>and people forget that all the time like relativity</p>
<p>wait 4the Qubits<br />
They have a lot to tell & confirm<br />
mail me on 7.77@mail.com<br />
yr email address and I send you more stuff</p>
<p></p>
<p>Be more egoistic. :-)</p>Arjuna commented on 'Open Thread 24 (free speech for comments)'tag:typepad.com,2003:6a00d83451c0aa69e20240a4db0d49200b2019-10-06T16:13:20Z2019-10-07T03:24:06ZArjuna @ 777 hello. May I ask a question. Why is GSD like most indians so determined to buy land??? Ask...<p>@ 777 hello.</p>
<p>May I ask a question. Why is GSD like most indians so determined to buy land??? Ask yourself why would GOD. Lets repeat that GOD buy land ???? Why buy land when you have the universe. Please answer convincingly</p>
<p>Greed has many faces my friend. Arjuna (and yes I am pretty good with a bow and arrow)</p>💥❤️💥 commented on 'Open Thread 24 (free speech for comments)'tag:typepad.com,2003:6a00d83451c0aa69e20240a48d3be2200c2019-10-06T15:20:22Z2019-10-07T03:24:06Z💥❤️💥Our essence is more iike a spider web than a diamond Wrong! We can be BOTH and much more We...<p>Our essence is more iike a spider web than a diamond</p>
<p>Wrong!</p>
<p>We can be BOTH<br />
and much more<br />
We can be what we want to be</p>
<p><br />
777</p>Mike England commented on 'Open Thread 24 (free speech for comments)'tag:typepad.com,2003:6a00d83451c0aa69e20240a4dabfaf200b2019-10-05T23:45:48Z2019-10-06T01:43:36ZMike England Dr Eugene Genetics was mumbling somewhat un-coherently in his samadhi this early morning. The quandary of the quantum physicists and...<p><br />
Dr Eugene Genetics was mumbling somewhat un-coherently in his samadhi this early morning.<br />
The quandary of the quantum physicists and the Universal Law of Sparrow Entanglement as written by the eminent French Professor, Entang Le Sparrow.<br />
The conscious awareness at the sub sub atomised level, the innermost ego slash self, makes its presence felt through absence. <br />
Generally, lay people are not minded to such fanciful notions, they go about the daily horror show of their humdrum lives wishing they are someone else.<br />
Occasionally, a rare glimpse into this void detects the waves and particles that reveals the sub unconscious mind layer.</p>
<p>I managed to scribble this hastily on the back of the box of tea bags, before the Dr came out of his meditation. I made Him His cuppa and that was that. <br />
Sohang as they say. </p>
<p></p>
<p></p>
<p><br />
</p>Michael commented on 'Open Thread 24 (free speech for comments)'tag:typepad.com,2003:6a00d83451c0aa69e20240a48cf291200c2019-10-05T23:26:16Z2019-10-06T01:43:36ZMichaelJesse runs a different narrative style than me. I posted that AND RSSB is a fiction. The only truth RSSB...<p>Jesse runs a different narrative style than me.<br />
I posted that AND <br />
RSSB is a fiction.<br />
The only truth RSSB contains is that we are all gonna die. <br />
Which is exactly what Brian has been blogging for several or more years.</p>💥❤️💥 777 💥❤️💥 commented on 'Open Thread 24 (free speech for comments)'tag:typepad.com,2003:6a00d83451c0aa69e20240a48cdb2c200c2019-10-05T18:34:58Z2019-10-06T01:43:36Z💥❤️💥 777 💥❤️💥Jesse or Michael said : My most fearful time is during the night, when I wake up to go to...<p>Jesse or Michael said :<br />
My most fearful time is during the night, when I wake up to go to the toilet. I go back to bed and ponder: Shit, I’m gonna die.</p>
<p>me:<br />
What an 'expected' panic by times here on this forum</p>
<p>The trick is:<br />
Don't expect what U believe<br />
Stop believing bull shit</p>
<p>Then both the here<br />
and the hereafter are unbelievable joyous. 💥❤️💥<br />
When the RSSB stuff again infiltrates<br />
it will even be tremendous ( from who I have that word? )</p>
<p>RE-Believe !</p>
<p>even after 15 years of scolding</p>
<p>You will get what is in U</p>
<p>777.❤️</p>❤️ commented on 'Open Thread 24 (free speech for comments)'tag:typepad.com,2003:6a00d83451c0aa69e20240a48c3193200c2019-10-04T09:19:55Z2019-10-04T17:31:06Z❤️"". If QM [quantum mechanics] is really a fundamental theory of reality, it shouldn't need to invoke conscious brains and...<p>"". If QM [quantum mechanics] is really a fundamental theory of reality, it shouldn't need to invoke conscious brains and measuring devices. Instead these macroscopic objects should emerge naturally from the theory.""</p>
<p><br />
Without<br />
My synthesis (above) and all creation wouldn't exist</p>
<p><br />
❤️ 777</p>
<p>There is absolutely nothing without consciousness, nothing<br />
There are degrees<br />
Just connect</p>Jen commented on 'Open Thread 24 (free speech for comments)'tag:typepad.com,2003:6a00d83451c0aa69e20240a4b55ff0200d2019-10-03T23:16:46Z2019-10-04T17:31:06ZJenSpiritual Love... A pure heart, open to the Light, will be filled with the very essence of Truth Rumi<p>Spiritual Love...</p>
<p>A pure heart, open to the Light,<br />
will be filled with the very essence of Truth</p>
<p>Rumi<br />
</p>Jen commented on 'Open Thread 24 (free speech for comments)'tag:typepad.com,2003:6a00d83451c0aa69e20240a48c11fa200c2019-10-03T21:51:24Z2019-10-04T17:31:06ZJenThere is something within a human being that seeks and longs for something more than this earthly life.... Céline Dion...<p>There is something within a human being that seeks and longs for something more than this earthly life.... </p>
<p>Céline Dion - My Heart Will Go On (Live)</p>
<p><a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WNIPqafd4As" rel="nofollow">https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WNIPqafd4As</a><br />
</p>7 💥 ONE requirement : 💥 7. Don't hurt a BIT 💥 7 commented on 'Open Thread 24 (free speech for comments)'tag:typepad.com,2003:6a00d83451c0aa69e20240a48c0c8a200c2019-10-03T20:42:50Z2019-10-04T17:31:06Z7 💥 ONE requirement : 💥 7. Don't hurt a BIT 💥 7"Recognizing the reality of your death is key to living life" Being almost 100 I totally and absolutely can not...<p>"Recognizing the reality of your death is key to living life"</p>
<p><br />
Being almost 100<br />
I totally and absolutely<br />
can not understand such statement<br />
that any future PC wil LOL. !</p>
<p>Not from any religious standpoint . . . NO. !</p>
<p>Just by using my grey cells</p>
<p>While now, all scientists <br />
agree that an intelligence way like the PHI number <br />
was followed concerning this modest<br />
local universe where we are,</p>
<p>OF COURSE the individual consciousness of each unit<br />
is able to see and understand the timeless Source<br />
is HIM</p>
<p>The Emperor is just on His evening walk anomymously under the names<br />
of Lane, Brian, Jim, Jen, Jesse, Michael, <br />
yes why would He be restricted to one guy/gurl/stone/universe</p>
<p>Now, . . anyone with compassion and empathy can easily capture the Way it is<br />
just using IQ and more<br />
by the Sound Current , always there for a willing</p>
<p>Can it be simpler ?</p>
<p>Just don't hurt and you have this same knowledge EXPERIENCE</p>
<p>These molecules are a screen we ar projected on<br />
and many think much to humble (haha) they are That</p>
<p>No</p>
<p>Not at all</p>
<p>This is a fascinating beautiful thing that happens<br />
and nobody needs the other ballgame of initiation<br />
I m Happy , I will come here again and again see the Truth<br />
of f.i. Osho's Punch. :-)</p>
<p>You all : <br />
Pls don't fall into that trap above because<br />
"You will go where your Heart already is"</p>
<p><br />
Make it Light</p>
<p>777</p>
<p>❤️</p>Spence Tepper commented on 'Open Thread 24 (free speech for comments)'tag:typepad.com,2003:6a00d83451c0aa69e20240a48aabd8200c2019-09-30T15:27:53Z2019-10-01T02:41:36ZSpence Tepper Jesse, it all comes back to what my Dad taught us kids, "when you go through life, whatever be your...<p>Jesse, it all comes back to what my Dad taught us kids, "when you go through life, whatever be your goal, keep your eye upon the doughnut, and not upon the hole." </p>Jesse commented on 'Open Thread 24 (free speech for comments)'tag:typepad.com,2003:6a00d83451c0aa69e20240a4d84595200b2019-09-29T23:37:15Z2019-09-30T01:38:06ZJesseMaybe the victims in Mayanmar are the people Burmese people getting raped by Bangladeshi Muslims for decades on end. Not...<p>Maybe the victims in Mayanmar are the people Burmese people getting raped by Bangladeshi Muslims for decades on end. Not the Bangladeshi Muslims getting kicked out for raping a lot of people, Spence. Maybe the news is wrong for the billionth time in a row.</p>
<p>Why can't people just live their lives instead of believing in the gods of the news? That's a better thing to take from that situation and that article which i have no idea why I posted now cause I won't read it again - stay out of other peoples business and stop taking sides in fights that aren't yours. Don't assume that our earthly gods are correct, or even honest. </p>
<p>"But this author asks us to consume his own regurgitation of theirs. " And I guess you and I are "asking" that others consume our opinions since we opined here in the public. It's a twisted world, man. A sick and twisted world.</p>Spence Tepper commented on 'Open Thread 24 (free speech for comments)'tag:typepad.com,2003:6a00d83451c0aa69e20240a4d83b3f200b2019-09-29T21:13:38Z2019-09-30T01:38:06ZSpence TepperHi Jesse The author blames the head of Peleton for visiting Myanmar without saying anything helpful to their political situation....<p>Hi Jesse<br />
The author blames the head of Peleton for visiting Myanmar without saying anything helpful to their political situation. </p>
<p>But the blatant hypocrisy works 180 degrees because the author could be doing so using the power of his platform. He doesn't need to visit Myanmar to write about it and advocate for the victims, but it wouldn't be a bad idea. </p>
<p>He instead indulges in pseudo-social etiquette articles about how to sound tech, cannibas and financial savvy, as if he is constantly trying to understand and gain entrance to that superficial crowd of tech, pop and financial icons. </p>
<p> He engages in his own cultural snobbery in attempting to point to the superficiality of these folks. But they are all depicted in a way that strangely points back to the author's own superficiality. </p>
<p>Yes, every modern celebrity has to keep regurgitating their every meal onto Twitter, just like our President, for public consumption. But this author asks us to consume his own regurgitation of theirs. </p>7 - 😢 commented on 'Open Thread 24 (free speech for comments)'tag:typepad.com,2003:6a00d83451c0aa69e20240a48a56e9200c2019-09-29T20:34:21Z2019-09-30T01:38:06Z7 - 😢At that time they can retire from seva and will get a “I am nothing” achievement sticker. Posted by: Osho...<p>At that time they can retire from seva and will get a “I am nothing” achievement sticker. Posted by: Osho Robbins | September 29, 2019 at 04:52 AM</p>
<p>Still the lead subject is the punch</p>
<p>Let me insist<br />
If this had been a Sevadars in Rage , they had applied good upper-cuts<br />
and U had waked up there in the evening</p>
<p>The modesty of yr treatment - Yes hyper-multi-quantum-positioning played!<br />
Be proud Osho <br />
To my understanding : the first miracle @Haynes</p>
<p>Oooh Yes @Mr Un<br />
Such statements bring 5 years prison in Austria/Germany<br />
c q 30 000 € in most EU countries<br />
No first amendement here - They find U if U had IP and Macaddresses unchanged<br />
This is no Joke.😢😢😢 Unge</p>
<p></p>
<p></p>
<p><br />
</p>um commented on 'Open Thread 24 (free speech for comments)'tag:typepad.com,2003:6a00d83451c0aa69e20240a4d834ef200b2019-09-29T19:47:17Z2019-09-30T01:38:06ZumHere they speak of wrong doings of teachers, elsewhere they do too: https://www.buddhistdoor.net/news/dzongsar-khyentse-rinpoche-issues-public-statement-on-recent-criticism-of-sogyal-rinpoche<p>Here they speak of wrong doings of teachers, elsewhere they do too:<br />
<a href="https://www.buddhistdoor.net/news/dzongsar-khyentse-rinpoche-issues-public-statement-on-recent-criticism-of-sogyal-rinpoche" rel="nofollow">https://www.buddhistdoor.net/news/dzongsar-khyentse-rinpoche-issues-public-statement-on-recent-criticism-of-sogyal-rinpoche</a><br />
</p>