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September 21, 2018

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Actually now I believe god exists, and he's going to take out all these fakes. Sad that poor people must suffer falling prey to gurus.

The Mohali property is where the old charitable hospital once was, and the new Fortis specialty hospital was erected.......Interesting.

And of course, crushing emotionally to read this post.

And now I'm angry.

This is why I don't like gossip!

It's not the idea that it's just rumor.
It's the idea that it fits the facts so conveniently.
Is that how gossip works?

Or is it how the truth works?

Could use some help here.

It's not that I don't have my suspicions about Baba Ji.

It's the idea that this manipulation is being planned.

If it's the manipulation of the gossips, that is understandable. Their flaws are natural to all of us.

But if it's the manipulation of Baba Ji, this makes him far worse thqn a common thief.

A murderer of hope, spirit and souls.

It makes him the negative power!

And the worst of human failings.

Can someone close to the situation please offer some alternative additional facts to this??

Regarding how to deal with the news, I wonder if the following model (related to emotional healing) will help:

STAGE 1. Denial
This is the stage when the person thinks, “No, this just cannot be true.”
We’ve probably all said this when faced with terrible news. Denying something is true is a common way of initially dealing with a painful situation.
At first, one may feel totally unable to accept the bad news. In this stage of
denial we might isolate ourselves in an attempt to defend against the reality
of the situation.

Although denial is a normal stage of grief, if we remain in this stage too long
we will be unable to make necessary and important decisions.

STAGE 2. Anger
The next stage is anger. This is the stage in which the person acknowledges
the reality of the situation, but is filled with rage at the loss and thinks,
“This isn’t fair; why did this have to happen to me?” When a loved
one dies, we may be angry at whatever took our loved one’s life, angry at
God, even angry at the loved one for leaving us. Although feeling angry is
normal, we may displace our anger. This means taking anger out on other
people or things. It may feel as if everything and everyone is irritating us
and so we lash out and are completely unaware that this is a manifestation
of our grief. Although displaced anger may serve to distance us from the
pain and reality of the loss, it can create problems in personal relationships,
especially if the people around us do not understand that we are grieving. It
can even lead to legal problems if we physically act out our anger on people
or property.

STAGE 3. Bargaining
The next stage is bargaining. This is a stage that people sometimes go
through when they are facing the loss of their own life or the life of a loved
one. They think “There must be something I can do to change this.”
We may try to make bargains with God by promising to do something difficult
(often something that we are unlikely to be able to do), in exchange for
removing the threat of loss. For example, we might pray, “God, if you take
this pain away, I promise to never even think about using drugs again.”
When feeling powerless, bargaining may provide us with the illusion that we
are actually doing something to help, but as with the previous stage, if we
remain in this stage too long, it can prevent us from coping realistically with
the situation and taking appropriate action.

STAGE 4. Depression
The next stage is depression. In this stage, the reality of the loss has really
“sunk in.” Denial, anger, and bargaining give way to despair, and we think
“I cannot handle this pain and I’m helpless to do anything about it.”
We may attempt to withdraw from the world and to “shut down our circuits”
in an attempt to defend ourselves against the pain of the loss. Although profound sadness in response to loss is normal, it is important not to get stuck
in this stage. As you all know, depression can quickly lead to drug use and
other unhealthy behavior.

STAGE 5. Acceptance
The next stage is acceptance. This is the stage where we move beyond
defending ourselves from the pain of the loss with denial, anger, and depression, and begin to accept reality. We may think “I have experienced a
painful loss, but I can get through it.” When we are in the earlier
stages of grieving, it seems that acceptance is an unattainable goal.
However, it is important to keep in mind that acceptance is neither unattainable nor is it the ultimate goal. Acceptance is not the end of the process, but rather a necessary step that will move you beyond grief to the next stage which is hope.

STAGE 6. Hope
We have reached the final stage—hope—when we reflect upon the loss in
search of personal meaning. In this stage we may think “I am ready to
learn from this important life experience.” As we will discuss later,
finding personal meaning in a loss involves being willing to identify and face
your fears.

https://medicine.yale.edu/spiritualselfschema/training/hhrp/Margolin%20NEG%20Gr%2011_160750_284_19347_v1.pdf

Laughing hautily Indra, the God of all the devas (angels) looked down upon the young boy and exclaimed, "Other Indras?! You claim there where other Indras? Tell me who were these 'Other Indras' , little boy! Where are they today?"

And the boy, smiling, looked at the line of ants marching the length of the path, and pointing to them, in a quiet voice, said "Indras all."

There seems to be something special about this land, where the charitable hospital was erected, then destroyed. Where Baba Ji was hospitalized. Perhaps where he will pass.

Will this be the land that in ten thousand years becomes a wasteland?

And still, for ten million lives, and ten million more yet to come, a tiny insect will be born over and over again in dung, in summer's blaze and winter's bitter and frost-hardened prisons to work this ground, this once holy sanctuary for the helpless, Ill and broken. This humble place, he, in an act of pride and greed, as a mighty king long ago, thoughtlessly razed.

His kingdom now, a small mound of twenty centimeters 'round. Upon each birth he fights again to take, to build, expand and own again and again for countless lives, an eon passing, and each day his only thought, and always more so on the days of his passage, "Land.... Land... My land."

The poster asked: "I wonder if such a situation existed in the US, would FBI provide special security to a Guru."

The answer is yes.

In 1986 members of the Khalistan movement threatened the life of Yogi Bhajan. During his annual retreat in New Mexico the FBI had the property staked out to protect him and the people around him.

Around the same time, when he Visited Canada, the RCMP also provided security for his visit.

Security services and law enforcement in general consider these individuals public figures and are obliged to protect them and the public gatherings that happen around them, even if they do have their own private security.

Thanks for sharing that, Joe. I was totally wrong I guess. Now I want to know if Oshos followers were both surveiled and protected simultaneously.

Maybe mr curious can add Khalistani terror groups to the list of diverse groups who strengthen our society.

Where would our society be without them sucking up funds with their never ending sectarian wars and all the money siphoned from our economy to build vacant mansions in Jalandhar?

AJ, was the sickness mentioned in this article the cancer that Gurinder had, or something else? Cause I thought the bout of cancer he was being treated for was much earlier than 2017.

"Now I want to know if Oshos followers were both surveiled and protected simultaneously."

Good question.

I understand there were no real threat to Rajneesh's life in the USA and he was not an American citizen so he wouldn't be in the same category. FBI might have been surveilling him on the basis of whether a crime was being committed or to see if there was an ongoing conspiracy to commit a crime. But protection, not likely. When the FBI did finally move on the group it was to boot him out of the country.

Jesse, what are you referring to here: "....vacant mansions in Jalandhar?"

I'm referring to all the vacant mansions in Jalandhar.

There are many parts of Punjab where NRI's buy massive houses to show off their wealth created in USA, Canada etc. You can go to a lot of those areas and notice the lack of people. It's because many of the homes are unoccupied and were built for vanity and competition purposes.

AJ ......

Well, there's some smoke and some fire, and some fuel ...
Juan was right about the indigestion episode, GSD was flown out to Singapore as a precautionary measure. It had nothing to do with his previous medical issues, but became more of an SOS " rule-out-the-doubt " trip.

He was given three months to live ? Wow, that's the first time I've heard this.

He was charged 200K as opposed to 20K at Fortis ? The larger picture points to a shift in internal equations, that's what I take away from this. AJ, if your source is an ex-Fortis Director, there's got to be some truth here. As far as I know, GSD was never charged at Fortis and that's because Fortis Healthcare pays rent to itself through RHT. It's a different story now, but back then, Fortis was still a part of the Dhillon backyard stack.

There is more than one deal between the Brothers and GSD, it's common knowledge. Yes, Shivinder Singh was supposed to succeed him. Yes, it was almost announced publicly. But, there was a dramatic turn in events - the businesses collapsed in quick succession and the blame game tore up the coterie.

" Money was siphoned off to Singapore where GSD’s son lives. "
Isn't it funny that everyone knows and everyone has been sworn to secrecy ?

@ Spence

Could use some help here.
It's not that I don't have my suspicions about Baba Ji.
It's the idea that this manipulation is being planned.
If it's the manipulation of the gossips, that is understandable. Their flaws are natural to all of us.
But if it's the manipulation of Baba Ji, this makes him far worse thqn a common thief.
A murderer of hope, spirit and souls.
It makes him the negative power!
And the worst of human failings.

This is how believers function.
Spence, you was once an ardent follower, maybe not now.

Once the faith is shattered the believer turns against the guru.

One minute he is god in human form, the next he is a conman and an incarnation
Of Kal himself, no less.

The love turns to hate.....


Oh 777, you SO crazy 🍌🍌🥜🥜

Keep up the truthing guys, Karma King approves

@ Karma King : ( ... using the thumbs up sign here. )

You all may find ur answers and shut ur shit mouth by reading the real story from rssb.org article regarding the same.

Vicky, those are all old articles which we've read and discussed. Are you an agent of Kal tho?

One thing I was unaware of was that RSSB was affiliated with the "Economic and Social Council of the United Nations." That's sort of strange. UN has a definition of what it calls genocide, and then in part of its charter it advocates for the exact policies it elsewhere calls genocide, but then calls it "progress."

They seem to be involved in every evil on earth, to be honest, so it's no surprise that RSSB has buddied up to them. Maybe Gurinder's spiritual activities extend into child trafficking and organ harvesting. Both things UN affiliates have been caught up in. Time might tell.

@ Jesse - good points !!!

Just look what some memebers Oxfam we’re doing!!!

What pisses me of why was the charitable hospital closed and a fortis erected and also why was the eye camp shut!! It only benefited the poor who could afford fees!!!!

Fishy as hell this!!!

Osho said, "Once the faith is shattered the believer turns against the guru. One minute he is god in human form, the next he is a conman and an incarnation Of Kal himself, no less. The love turns to hate.."

That's what happens when followers of any type turn their guru into a false God.

"Fishy as hell this!!!"

It is fishy, Arjuna. Maybe everyone is wrong and the family,RSSB's reps and the Guru himself are totally innocent but it's looking too shady to be accidental.

It's good to have one's faith tested or shattered. Something is completely unhealthy about chancing upon a guru savior who has all the easy answers to life's hardest questions. The fall of the guru empires will be a net positive for truth seekers.

@ Jesse - let’s wait and see I guess .

Hi Arjuna! Good for being patient. I'm with you.

Hello Soencer - hope you are well. It’s the only thing we can do.

Let the storm pass and see who is who (really).

It is souls destroying nevertheless - one begins to lose faith in humanity and to pull from that requires great strength.

Have a good day

I think this man don't know power of babaji and he have some personal interest in this that's why he is doing all these thing if some thing wrong is done government should take action he must do police fir but nothing is wrong there one can go dera Bea's and check the facts and plz don't create wrong news about babaji

omg..
It is unbelieveble how people.., no matter what ..,hold on to their gihf,God In Human Form''.
Really unbelievable.
Danger for human species actually.

Believe in the Light God Allah Divine in Yourself and stay Authentic.

ps It WAS also difficult for me..
Not anymore!!
Still recovering..

@ 777 hello

Which two chakras are you taking about - aliens would take?


Are these Aliens spirits you have encountered within? Or in the physical universe?

I want to celebrate death of Brian Hines.

Hi Sk
You mean like celebrating the death of Christ, Kabir, Sawan, Lincoln or others who brought some light into the world?

Of course why we celebrate their deaths is really to celebrate their ideas, their truths, which, once broadcast, became everlasting, and changed the world forever.

And each age needs such people to bring us up to reality.

"Stronger than all the armies of the world, that were our ever will be,

Is an idea whose time has come."

Sk wrote:
"I want to celebrate death of Brian Hines."
It's much better to prepare for the celebration of yours - because that's the only death you'd be able to witness (from within).


Brian,

That's yet another failed attempt in turning a fake comment into a fake post.
It's appearing and sounding fake and cheap in every sentence. Just fake.

It's not suiting your position neither as an author nor as RSSB critique.
It's only sounding a marked down way to articulate yet another malicious jargon into a blog post.

Is it that you are just going weirder everyday cause so much adrenaline rushing your blood due to such enormous number of site visiters you are receiving ?


Spence wrote:
"And now I'm angry."
A live example how the grip of mind can turn wisdom into lunacy.

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This prose of Paltu Saheb Ji, explained by Baba Gurinder Singh Ji Maharaj in today's Satsang at Delhi:

"Mann maya mein mil gaya, mara gaya vivek"
meaning:
The maya consumes the mind and wisdom gets destroyed.

One Initiated, you have a strange view of reality. The comment I published was real, and my blog post was real, or you could't have read them. Yet you call them "fake."

Yet somehow you believe that this world of real things is "maya," illusion. Actually it is your mistaken views that are illusory, since you're unable to properly distinguish between fake and real.

@ Brian - totally agree with you.

No one has seen Maya or had a dinner date with her.

Why don’t just people learn to live in the real world - one that one can touch! Rather than fantasy worlds conjured up by others.

Anyway back to reading JK Rowlings latest book 😀.


Yet somehow you believe that this world of real things is "maya," illusion. Actually it is your mistaken views that are illusory, since you're unable to properly distinguish between fake and real.

Mystics have a more nuanced answer. The objects of the
physical world are illusion but the experience that's created
by them isn't. Like the bad dream that went away leaving
terror in its wake.

Arjuna,

You are a soldier and winning in the battleground,
however, you are losing the everyday battle with the mind over and over again.

Do you realise the post Brian posted based on Juan's fake comment of the meeting at Beas and so that blog post is also just a fake blog post ?
But yeah it's on back burner now - no one is going there to read that it was proven fake,
it did the damage it intended to - by inducing falsely baked hatred in the hearts of many who are going through a shakable faith.
Just like another one from cleotapra as I clearly pointed out crafted content in it,
later it was clear when cleo/sarah posted so many more fake comments around as well - and chickened out from responding when I proved them fake.
Anyways, if you have fallen to this level of enjoying reading fake content against the Masters - then it'll indeed be hard to understand the truth.

When the person like Spence, who claimed to have been through inner experiences, could have derailed and getting trapped by all this negativity, how difficult it is for someone who is not even meditating ?
I am quite sure you are not spending even 15 minutes daily on meditation - tell me if I am thinking wrong ?

Maya indeed invites each one at the dinner table, daily.
Only we are so much fascinated with what's been offered on the table to eat, we turn our face from reality.
As said in Adigranth: "Ave jave so maya"
i.e. which comes and go is maya, which changes is maya.

the Master abusers will have to repent, there is no other way.
The sooner the lighter it will be.
Only after the realisation of the mistakes the journey will start in positive direction, again.
If not corrected before death, this whole birth is going to be wasted for storing dirt.
On death it's sure to get corrected, but that will not be a good trade.

As said by the Great Paltu Saheb Ji:
"Sant ki nind na kijiye, sant ki nind nahin bhala"
"Chaurasi bhog veh bhog aya, chaurasi bhogan fir chala"

i.e.
Never abuse the Masters, that it is of no good;
You've crossed the cycle of 84, and now entering it again.

I wish you Master's Love and faith.

@ One Initiated : Why don't you also point out that Naam Daan was cancelled in Delhi, why are you hiding that bit and going on with the Paltu Sahib paraphrasing ?

AJ you say: "most of the people have significant experiences at initiation and usually don’t have experiences after that".

I'm surprised because satsangis do not usually speak about their inner experiences. We are specifically told not to and I have mixed with many different satsangis from different countries and never had anyone tell me about their experiences. In fact, if they did, I would have been shocked.

AJ were you initiated by an RSSB Master? I am a Charan initiate and we followed very strict rules especially in not discussing our inner experiences.

Blonde,

Were you in Delhi ?
Do you know why did it got cancelled ?

@ One Initiated : I wasn't there, why don't you tell us what you know ?

777 you say:
"There are thousands of real physical aliens. What is seen is
the very rare cloak failings.
There are equal on our surface, visible and invisible.
There are semi-etheric , there are aura penetrators."

First time I have heard you speak about this. I am very interested. I've seen UFOs and also experienced telepathic communication and I'd love to hear more from you about this subject, thats if Brian does not mind ?!

Blonde,

I have uncountable, heavenly and sublime things to explain from what I've received these three days, only if you have audacity to listen to them.
Under HIS feet, those were the best three days of this whole year for me.
The experience is beyond any explanation - no words could justify it.
I wished time could freeze for that hour and so when HE was there on the stage.

Since you've claimed the information first, and that you've not attended,
it's your responsibility to first tell the source of this information,
also that how and from where that person got this information. Can you?

@ One : I don't feel the need to subject myself to any more tripe than I have already experienced. Why don't you just keep your suggestions of audaciousness to yourself, I'm not telling you to come faith shopping with me ... so, you just focus on your astral light and sound show while I roll in some seriously good stuff the Pinda has to offer. I was only pointing at the half information you were peddling. Go on, present your case ...

I'm looking at the larger framework of Sant Mat these days. I have a few questions for Ishwar Puri that I'll ask him in person, in Chicago. RSSB and its financial circus has become too boring ... :(

I'm in no mood to throw hatchets and I'm not your nicey-nice fellow GSD stan so who cares whether the initiation drama was cancelled ? I have no sources. There are half a dozen social media groups online that have all kinds of stuff from memes to jokes to the latest gossip and trivia ... you want to spend some time there ? I'm uninterested.

( By the way, " stan " means an obsessive fan. It is a portmanteau of the words stalker and fan and is the name of an obsessed fan in the Eminem song of the same name. New York Times posted an article defining and describing stans. I'm just explaining as you're wired to go off on holy verbal assaults and I'm in no mood to argue. )


@ One : Just one more thing. I felt exactly the same way as you do. The whole " uncountable, heavenly, sublime " everything and more nine yards. Fortunately, I found a better purpose in life. The best thing was ridding myself of a superficial humility and a sense of specialness. Jesse had mentioned somewhere and I have to agree with him ... I found better quality human beings in all their meat eating and beer guzzling glory. I've met the most phenomenal people outside of religion and religious morality, not just RSSB, but generally speaking ...

People with a lesser sense of God have a better sense of life.

Blonde,

Exactly, you neither have that audacity nor sincerity to listen.
And that's why it will be a time waste for me to respond anything to you.
For the sake I did respond to investigate your actual expression behind asking that lame question. And here you are appearing in your stale state of mind. again and yet again.

So then why did you reach out to me in the first place and asked your stupid questions ? again ?
Specially when none of my comment was subjected to you in slightest sense.

If you are asking something, it's your duty to first tell where you are listening that question at all.
And you are not telling that, means you are also just spreading fake things here to misguide other readers.

"I'm looking at the larger framework of Sant Mat these days. I have a few questions for Ishwar Puri
that I'll ask him in person, in Chicago"
You are just wasting your time.

"@ One : Just one more thing. I felt exactly the same way as you do. The whole " uncountable, heavenly, sublime " everything and more nine yards. Fortunately, I found a better purpose in life. The best thing was ridding myself of a superficial humility and a sense of specialness. Jesse had mentioned somewhere and I have to agree with him ... I found better quality human beings in all their meat eating and beer guzzling glory. I've met the most phenomenal people outside of religion and religious morality, not just RSSB, but generally speaking ...

People with a lesser sense of God have a better sense of life."

You are wasting your time with above expressions too.

@ One : The time one enjoys wasting is not wasted time. Let's stop discussing what I should do with my time as a wayside ex-RSSB'er and talk about your time that's going into an anti-RS thread. Why don't you meditate instead ?

Speaking of my " responsibility " and " duty " to present my source, let's look at your responsibility, which is larger than mine. I have no experience of astral travel. Please begin with an explanation of your astral realities ...

I'm free to reply to whatever I feel like replying to ... :)
Please start your exclusive GSD stan club for your private discussions.

( I love getting your goat, One ... and I don't even feel the need to call you stupid. )

That was a chickened out response.

Nobody is interested in your schedules either, Blonde.
It's just that everyone tend to discuss their stuffs when they find resonating people.

Since you've referenced it so many times and again:
"I have a few questions for Ishwar Puri that I'll ask him in person, in Chicago"

I will add again:
You are living a bewildered life. You are and will be wasting your time.

" I love getting your goat"
oh boy, it's amusing to see how people are deceiving themselves and feeling good about it.
You could know better of it, only if you had experienced it what HE has made me to experience. You do not have a slightest idea.

I whole heartedly follow one of the most amazing advise by
our great Sardar Bahadur Ji Maharaj:

"Krodh mukh se karo, dil se nahin. Pyar dil se karo, mukh se nahin"

meaning:
Express anger only by mouth not heart, Express Love only by heart not mouth.

There are much news on the board related to RSSB. But, I believe, we should not doubt and Every RSSB follower should support to find out the real truth behind the story.

How do you do that Ashish?

Hi One!
It seems here, as in popular "News" that opinions seem to take up much more air time than the presentation of facts.

What facts have you taken the time to familiarize yourself with?
Specifically, in the articles Brian and others have presented?
The audits at Fortis?
The fraud judgments against the Singh's at Ranbaxy and Daiichi?
The siphoned funds to Subnam Dillon's companies?
The transfer of RSSB property into the Dillon's private holding?

There can be any opinion about these facts. But most essential is to acknowledge each one, I think.

And then that is a list for Baba Ji to address.

It is one thing to say "here are the articlesm whatever" and another to say "let me explain the siphoned funds..."

And still another to say "It all doesn't matter."

Well, it does matter.
If it matters for joe regular guy to follow the laws, it matters for Baba Ji...The whole point of submission to the Lord is that we are more accepting of the laws of the land than anyone else. We should be model citizens, not model swindlers.

So, your understanding of just what the facts are...then, your opinion.

Facts first.

@One - I still want to believe and no I have not been doing my mediation!

However I have to take myself to the drawing board and have a chat as to what the hell I am doing with myself - I admit that I have had no experience of Master bar pain in this life - so not really sure if I want to have a one sided love affair anymore!!!

Dear Arjuna,
The love affair is all over the place and right inside you.. always..
I too try to see feel hear the divine always..sometimes I loose and sometimes it's there..
It is indeed a love affair with God..and you..
In fact you are him and he is you..
In you and all around in the food you eat,in the steps you do..
In the feelings you have he is there always..
Often we have to open up,especially when there is pain,suffering..,
but then he is also in you, with you,..also in happyness,but that seems easier to grasp.

<3

@ S*

Thank you for your kind words. I need sleep as it’s been a long day.

God bless

good info by AJ. money siphoned? YESSSSS. true.
many Religare and Fortis people know and are openly talking.
many shady things happened at Fortis.

Spence,

"Facts first"
You have fallen in the wrong court.
Here it's "Love First" in spirituality.

The mathematics you are doing is not wisdom, that's spiritual lunacy, just a folly.
You've chosen to run after the facts instead of Love.
You are laughing on the Master because HE is appreciating the Sun in the pitch black night,
because being in the grip of mind you understanding what HE is saying.

On Saturday, 22nd September 2018, The Master said these beautiful and commanding words:

"The Master will never take actions to please the disciples"

And also added:

"You first have to believe in the teachings, follow the teachings yourself, only then you will become capable of understanding the Master."


Arjuna,

Did you read the beautiful response added by 777 here for you ?
Please read it here if you didn't: https://tinyurl.com/ya4wlsln
Scroll to the bottom to see the comment.

@ One : The initiation was cancelled. It is the correct news, not misinformation. Initiation is likely to be cancelled in other places as well. But, this is trivia when compared to the larger story out there.

I'm not obliged to reveal my sources, let's watch the thread to see whether anyone disputes this.

( It’s ridiculous to me that emperor One Initiated and his trolling cronies in the RS arena make commentary on the most lame of occurrences when they can barely address the financial shit show with even a hairline knowledge of facts. RSSB'ers like One's reactions to truths and public domain facts are well documented here. He loves calling people names and wishes ill upon them. It’s a complete and total assault on his own self professed spirituality. )

naam daan cancelled in delhi. correct info.

"Krodh mukh se karo, dil se nahin. Pyar dil se karo, mukh se nahin"
meaning:
Express anger only by mouth not heart, Express Love only by heart not mouth.

Initiated one that's da dumbest thing i've heard all week.

The teachings are very bad!!
It's bad because the Love one can feel in the heart..NOT in the master.
They take it away they stand in fact in between the divine and yourself.
The love can be found in the inner,in the heart.
No master, no master in the inner no ''master''in the outer world.
Divine is everywhere.
Gosh not easy to see often,because it is a difficult place here on earth.

The teaching are idiotic because of the transmigration and master the savier.
So one must believe in the chaurasi to accept the master who saves.
Makes dependent and can give fears (I had that)
While one can seek Love right within yourself.Ones very own selves.
Really also in your anger also in everything one goes trough.
So I think and feel..
Living MINDFULL is very helpfull to realise lots of things and keeps you also ''down to earth''

@ One : I almost missed the rather narcissistic paraphrasing of one of Jagat's axioms that he probably bestowed on you first hand. I like to say what I mean and mean what I say. It would be far too clever and a trifle too taxing to play games ... what's the point in expressing anger when you aren't even angered ? That's called being fake.

Vidhur and Blonde,

You can not understand right now but you are giving me good deduction to smirk :)

Now can you guys come out of your scaffold and explain what is the source of this information (NEWS that you are calling) ?
Can you post links or probably phone number here where one can substantiate your dossier.

If you can not post links and confirm what you are saying then you both are fake and fraudulent persons and posting just forged fabricated and counterfeit comments here.

@ One : I called it trivia, it's hardly news. You did agree above that your magic mantra dispersion was cancelled, right ? Then what are you on about ? I don't have the reasons and wouldn't bother finding out because it means nothing to me. You, however, seem disturbed ... so do your own findings and get on with your life.

" you both are fake and fraudulent persons and posting just forged fabricated and counterfeit comments here "

... so much frustration One, how was the trek up Trikuti this morning ? You forgot to take your lemonade along ?

( I love driving you crazy, One. You're like the Indian Trump here with his " fake news " smears. I can't even pin it on alcohol consumption, it must be the awful lemonade. )

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@ One : Your thoughts are designed to augment your antagonism of ex-RSSB'ers but you seldom make the fight more spiritually complicated beyond your servings of endless love and shabd that suddenly turn into Drumpster like reversals. ( Like you'll agree that initiation was cancelled, then you'll accuse others of misinformation. )

After you've done that, you'll scurry away to archive 777's comments and then you'll come back with your 1000x magnifying glass to look for another speck of dust to dissect. But, through all this nitpicking and cataloging, you haven't presented even one argument that pertains to the ongoing financial coup. Not one, One ... :)

@ One Initaited. I have read 777s response and it makes perception sense!!!

I have been wrong.

I have seen stuff through night vision binoculars that will make your toes curl. But only a few times - its scary where and how evil comes and i am not expanding on it here. So yes I should have known better.

Lots of love

Arjuna

One Initiated: Sorry I`ve missed many comments these days. I came across your comments to Arjun on 23rd sept. 9.34 where you wrote:

Do you realise the post Brian posted based on Juan's fake comment of the meeting at Beas and so that blog post is also just a fake blog post ?
But yeah it's on back burner now - no one is going there to read that it was proven fake, it did the damage it intended to - by inducing falsely baked hatred in the hearts of many who are going through a shakable faith.

----The meeting at Beas was not a fake comment. Hostel No. 10 and 11 were reserved exclusively for the attendants. I have no idea about the agenda of the meeting.

Please don’t get upset, I don’t think just the information of a meeting should cause any damage or induce hatred in your hearts and shake your faith.

1: J N
2: O K
3: R K
4: S H
5: S N
Then none of the above ramblings will even matter. Does it actually involve any of you personally? Does it actually really matter in your scheme of things? Aren't you/we all forgetting "The Science of the Soul" in all of this nonsense? The above 5 words do actually work if you dare to practise them. Certain sounds and combinations of sounds create external and internal vibrations that "IN TURN" changes your "wiring". (Solfeggio).Isn't that what we, who try to walk along this path, are all about? DO THE WORK and shut up! The SHABD and the practice of the yoga of the sound current certainly is not all of your silly nonsense. Who cares! Shame on you all!

"The above 5 words do actually work"

Have you tried any other words? Anything 'works'.

And if the master is a fraud then what's the point?

OM MANI PADME HUM!
Aren't you the true MASTER of the choices you make in life? I do not believe in a personal God, but I do believe in teachers or gurus to help me on my journey. That's MY point! As in all education, there must come a time when you graduate and set forth on your own, armed with resources to benefit from.

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