Most people are religious. But sometimes it's hard to tell what is a religion, and what isn't. Is Christianity a religion? Is Buddhism a religion? Is being devoted to your favorite sports team a religion?
(I'd answer "yes," "probably," and "no" to those three questions.)
The Patheos site has a story, What is Religion, Anyway?, that contains a definition that makes a lot of sense. Here's how it starts out:
Christian Smith is the Notre Dame sociologist who identified the religion of America’s youth as Moralistic Therapeutic Deism and who exposed the bias in the field of sociology. Now he attempts to put the field of the sociology of religion on a more rigorous basis in his new book Religion: What It Is, Why It Works, and Why It Matters.
The book includes many provocative insights, which we might go into later, but I’d like to concentrate first on the question of definition. What is religion, anyway? A field needs to define its subject matter before it can get very far in investigating it, but the sociology of religion has had problems with this.
A religion, says Smith, is not necessarily about God, the afterlife, or a justification for morals. Though some sociologists have approached the question in those terms, not all religions have these things.
Religion cannot even be defined as a particular set of beliefs, since many people practice a religion without necessarily agreeing with all of its beliefs or even knowing very well what they are. He gives the example of children, though the same could be said of other adherents whose knowledge of their religion is sketchy, at best.
Nor is religion to be defined by a sense of transcendence, the meaning of life, a sanction for the culture, the experience of the numinous, personal identity, or community belonging. Again, sociologists of religion have defined religion in these terms, but these are actually effects of religion, not religion itself.
It is possible to find these things apart from religion, to find the meaning of one’s life in political action or to experience transcendence through art or to gain a sense of community through a group of friends. A religion’s vitality–or lack of it–might be assessed by how well it creates–or has ceased to create–such effects.
But the question remains, what is religion? What is a definition that encompasses all religions in all of their diversity? Here is what Prof. Smith comes up with:
“Religion is a complex of culturally prescribed practices, based on premises about the existence and nature of superhuman powers, whether personal or impersonal, which seek to help practitioners gain access to and communicate or align themselves with these powers, in hopes of realizing human goods and avoiding things bad.” (22)
The “superhuman powers” can be God, gods, or impersonal forces. “In hopes of realizing human goods,” these powers might be prayed to, supplicated, or ritually manipulated; or the practitioners might learn to conform themselves to these forces.
Given this definition, I'd say that a secular Buddhism wouldn't be a religion, since no superhuman powers would be involved. But a supernatural Buddhism that assumes the reality of reincarnation and karmic influences that continue from life to life would be a religion.
Regarding the content of religious beliefs, today on satellite radio I heard a discussion about "fake news" in social media such as Facebook.
The person being interviewed was knowledgeable about what sorts of social media posts grab people's attention. Not surprisingly, posts that fit with someone's point of view, have an emotional "bite" to them, and are shocking or salacious are going to be more likely to be paid attention to.
This comment made me think of religion: "If not constrained by facts, this can make a story more attractive."
So it's no wonder that religions have so much appeal. They aren't at all constrained by facts, being free to make up stories that fit perfectly with what people want to hear.
Worried about dying and being dead forever? No problem, religions have a story for that.
Worried about not being loved by a powerful supernatural being? No problem, religions have a story for that.
Worried about having to decide what is moral? No problem, religions have a story for that.
It's amazing, really, that more people aren't taken aback by the fact that almost universally religions have good news for humanity. Well, us atheists think about this, but few religious people do.
They just accept the stories told by their religion without wondering, "How can it be that everything I want to be true is part of the tales told by my chosen faith?"
Well, because religions aren't constrained by those annoying things called facts. Anybody can come up with a appealing story if they don't have to worry about reality. Fairy tales often end with "And they lived happily ever after."
It's easy to make imaginary stories have happy endings. That's why religions are so popular.
Most people who sign up for a religion, faith, path are concerned that they will end up in a good place after death or, for that matter, anyplace at all. Maybe they are afraid some god or devil will make them miserable if they don't behave a certain way which ironically may include making other humans or animals miserable.
Religions promise that if you are 'good' according to what they think is 'good' you will end up in a 'good' place. Yet, it is amazing how little information is given about what this good place is going to be like. We hear about being in heaven, a spiritual region, angels, lights, sounds, bliss, being with God, Jesus, Krishna, loved ones, and so on.
But the descriptions of afterlife activities and states are very superficial and sketchy. Would you buy a house only knowing the price without seeing it or at least viewing a picture, or knowing its location, its condition, its layout and all the various details associated with making a decision to buy the house?
With religion all you really know is the price... do this and when you die you will be in a 'good' place. Meditate for many hours a day, pray five times a day, fast for a day or a week, dress a certain way, don't eat this but eat that, massacre infidels, sacrifice a virgin, fornicate only with your lawfully wedded spouse, make sure your spouse is not of the same sex, don't do this or that, do this or that and maybe whoever is in charge won't mess you up real bad.
We do all this without really knowing what we are going to get. It's kind of stupid just going on hearsay or a book or scripture. How do you know they know anything? Maybe when you get to heaven or the highest region you won't like the music despite what the pundits say about how great it is. Maybe bliss gets boring after two hundred trillion eons and you would like a little challenge or difficulty for a change.
One religion says you will get 72 virgins if you die killing people who don't believe in that religion. But there is no description of these virgins. What if they aren't your type? Maybe you like skinny chicks but all the virgins are fat and covered with warts and you don't like warts? Just because the founder of the religion liked warts doesn't mean you do.
Posted by: tucson | March 21, 2018 at 10:33 AM
The fundamentalist notions you depict do not in anyway describe the reason why many people participate in religious activities. For instance, a while ago church going Catholics in Canada were polled. A small percentage said they attended because it was the "right" thing to do. A slightly larger percentage went because of the desire for tradition. The largest percentage - approximately 50 per cent - went because of how it made them feel, and the majority of them said they didn't really believe, or disbelieve, in the theology.
Posted by: Joe | March 21, 2018 at 11:44 AM
Brian if you can define whole groups of people you've never met in degrading terms, hiding behind the clinical objectivity of sociological terminology , and then laugh at their stupidity, really, is that fun for you?
Tangentially arguing from the platform of an unrelated sociologists' writing is, well, it's Brian.
In Brian's sandbox All roads point to the stupidity of people who don't think Brianthink. No matter where those roads started, and the actual direction they were taking... ;)
You do seem to love throwing sand at the other kids. You were meant for more than this sandbox. But that conclusion is inevitable. I'm actually excited about your next steps Brian. You, as raw material, are coming along nicely.
Posted by: Spencer Tepper | March 21, 2018 at 12:56 PM
Spencer, show me where I've laughed at the stupidity of groups of people I've never met in degrading terms. You can't, because I haven't. I do make fun of religious people because they're deserving of it. I'm also making fun of my past self, because I too used to believe in God without any good reason for doing so other than that it made me feel good -- which is pretty damn funny!
You seem to be shocked that you come every day to a blog called "Church of the Churchless" and find churchless/atheist posts on it. Are you also shocked when you go to a bar and find people drinking alcohol there, or to a beach and find people in bathing suits?
Why do you feel justified in giving me advice, as you do in the comment above? Do you really think that you know me better than I know myself? If this the outcome of your religiosity, believing that you can tell other people what is in store for them?
Posted by: Brian Hines | March 21, 2018 at 03:40 PM
To Brian:
I watched the 6 part Series on Netflix yesterday, about Osho’s Oregon Ashram and them taking control of the town of Antelope . I am wondering if you were working for Salem Govt. During that time, and if so, considering you were an RSSB Charan Satsangi duriig that time, what did you think about the Osho Ashram taking over the Town, and also, when Thakar Singh was building his ashram on a mountain outside of Ashland, Oregon around 1987-88? I had moved to So. Ca. end of 1979, anf was Regional Manager of the eleven Western States for a Chicago Firm. I faintly remember the Osho event, but had no interest in Gurus during that time, so it escaped my Radar, in spite of my traveling to Oregon every couple of months and servicing my Clients in Portland, Eugene and Salem. The Netflix Series was very well done, and informative. I never knew a lot of what actually happened there. After watching it, it was no wonder the Oregon locals shot down letting Thakar Singh establish his Ashram in Oregon! I can’t imagine any Indian Guru ever establishing another large Ashram any where in tne U.S..again.
Jim Sutherland
Posted by: Jim Sutherland | March 21, 2018 at 06:49 PM
Hi Brian:
You wrote:
"Spencer, show me where I've laughed at the stupidity of groups of people I've never met in degrading terms. "
OK....
From your post:
"It's amazing, really, that more people aren't taken aback by the fact that almost universally religions have good news for humanity.
Well, us atheists think about this, but few religious people do.
They just accept the stories told by their religion without wondering, "How can it be that everything I want to be true is part of the tales told by my chosen faith?"
Well, because religions aren't constrained by those annoying things called facts. Anybody can come up with a appealing story if they don't have to worry about reality. Fairy tales often end with "And they lived happily ever after."
It's easy to make imaginary stories have happy endings. That's why religions are so popular."
Do you really think all people who devoutly follow a religion, all Catholics, for example, are simply more ignorant than you / atheists?
Whats quite interesting is your blind spot about this.
Posted by: Spence Tepper | March 21, 2018 at 07:25 PM
Spence,
I don't see anything in Brian's quotes you cited as being degrading or "laughing at" the stupidity of religious groups. I think he's just stating the facts as he sees them. If he makes religions sound unintelligent, maybe it's because they are?
Posted by: tucson | March 21, 2018 at 07:40 PM
Brian, you asked
"You seem to be shocked that you come every day to a blog called "Church of the Churchless" and find churchless/atheist posts on it. Are you also shocked when you go to a bar and find people drinking alcohol there, or to a beach and
find people in bathing suits?"
I'm shocked by bigger things. The sunrise is absolutely shocking to me. As are the stars in the sky, both inner and outer.
I'm shocked by the resounding harmonies of the orchestra, both inner and outer.
Gas clouds are incredible when you see them up close.
It's just experience Brian.
You seem shocked that you can have a deeply moving experience from things that have nothing to do with religion.
Let's just say that this is not news to most people, even people in religion.
Brian, consider this wild and completely unorthodox notion: Posts about true Atheism are not posts about Catholicism, or Sant Mat, or Religion, or any other belief.
They are about Atheism.
Atheism is no more defined by other religions than a woman is defined by a man.
But this may be a concept new to you.
Posted by: Spence Tepper | March 21, 2018 at 07:59 PM
Oscar Wilde Anglo-Irish poet/novelist.
“To believe is very dull. To doubt is intensely engrossing.”
Q: What does a dyslexic, agnostic, insomniac do?
A: Stays awake all night wondering if there really is a Dog.
Posted by: Jen | March 22, 2018 at 12:57 AM
Jen, sometimes fine wine is better than meditation.
Posted by: D.r | March 22, 2018 at 12:59 PM
Jim, yes, I was working for Oregon state government at the time the Rajneeshees (spelling?) came to Oregon. They were quite a sensation. We'd see members of the ashram here in Salem, dressed in their distinctive garb. At first the ashram was an amusing curiosity. Then, as the darker side came out, resistance grew to them. My wife and I are planning to watch the Netflix series.
Posted by: Brian Hines | March 22, 2018 at 03:23 PM
Hi D.r,
Nope, no wine for me. No alcohol at all. Living a moral life. Vegetarian diet. Excellent rules learnt from the path of Sant Mat.
Watching the excellent Netflix documentary "Wild Wild Country" that Jim and Brian mentioned. Wow what a difference to the spiritual path satsangis follow. I'm very happy that I'm still sticking to the principles. Don't like sitting meditating much but feel as if my life is a meditation anyway whilst practising being in the moment and presence.
Posted by: Jen | March 22, 2018 at 10:02 PM
“Religion is a complex of culturally prescribed practices, based on premises about the existence and nature of superhuman powers, whether personal or impersonal, which seek to help practitioners gain access to and communicate or align themselves with these powers, in hopes of realizing human goods and avoiding things bad.” (22)
WOW
I like it
777
Sound practice is totally another Ball Game
Posted by: 777 | March 24, 2018 at 07:08 AM