« "Jesus Loves Strippers" sign removal gets lots of attention | Main | "Trying Not to Try" is a great book about wu-wei, spontaneous action »

July 12, 2017


Feed You can follow this conversation by subscribing to the comment feed for this post.

Hi Brian
The roadside memorials are becoming a new tradition.

Personally, I believe every road should have a plaque that adds a bronze name tag as each new traffic death occurs. They can put a Jewish star or a cross, or a hand giving the finger, a turban, a gun, a car tire, a flower, casper the friendly ghost, in one box 3/4 inches square. They could use that box for a favored quote "She hated helmets",
" It was going to be this or the smoking," "Only the good die young," "Seat belts shmeat belts".

In all cases a memorial to the tragic stupidity of human driving, and a growing case for autonomous vehicles.

Therefore, The Master at the third eye is invisible for other people
Would be unconstitutional too

I would never have thought that - being very straight - I would be in Love , . . @another man
and that for > half a century


Then THROUGH Him all those other Masters, Sawan, Jagat, Jaimal, Seth Shiv , Tulsi, and so many more up to Melchizedek and more
They are also at Brians 3rd Eye
Let not the Salem journalist see all that . . .

Robert Johnson took the wrong road at the Cross Roads with Willie Brown. The Cross has significance to many in America. A movie was made about it.


Perhaps the Christian cross is meant to be a representation of our cultural heritage as opposed to promoting the Christian religion.

Brian, would you object if the monument contained a statue of the Buddha or Kuan Yin?

As much as people may disagree, we are a nation based on Christian principles.

Hi Bob

You wrote

"As much as people may disagree, we are a nation based on Christian principles."

Some of our greatest founding Fathers would disagree strongly with that statement, including Thomas Jefferson, Ben Franklin and Thomas Payne.

"Among the sayings and discourses imputed to him (i.e. Jesus) by his biographers, I find many passages of fine imagination, correct morality, and of the most lovely benevolence; and others again of so much ignorance, so much absurdity, so much untruth, charlatanism, and imposture, as to pronounce it impossible that such contradictions should have proceeded from the same being."

Source: Letter of Thomas Jefferson to William Short, April 13, 1820.

"It is between fifty and sixty years since I read it (i.e. the Book of Revelations), and I then considered it merely the ravings of a maniac, no more worthy nor capable of explanation than the incoherence of our own nightly dreams."

Source: Letter of Thomas Jefferson to General Alexander Smyth, Jan. 17, 1825.

Jefferson opposed the corruption of Jesus's teachings by many within the Christian Church of his times. But, he had an appreciation for Jesus's authentic teachings and moral codes, and considered himself a Christian.

Jefferson wrote to Charles Thomson, Jan. 9, 1816: “I have made this wee-little book … which I call The Philosophy of Jesus. It is a paradigm of his doctrines, made by cutting the texts out of the book and arranging them on the pages of a blank book, in a certain order of time and subject. A more beautiful or precious morsel of ethics I have never seen; it is a document in proof that I am a real Christian, that is to say, a disciple of the doctrines of Jesus, very different from the Platonists, who call me an infidel, and themselves Christians and preachers of the gospel, while they draw all their characteristic dogmas from what its Author never said nor saw.”

Hi Bob

Jefferson, as both citations alude too, and which you can read for yourself in Jefferson's version of the gospels, did not believe that Jesus was the embodiment of God, nor that Christ ever performed any miracles, nor that He was the son of God. Jefferson did not believe Christ rose from the dead, and as quoted above, thought the writings of revelation to be nothing more than the imaginary work of a madman.

He certainly would not be accepted as a leading member of any Christian church in America today.

His definition of Christian expressly deleted those things.

The current definition of Christian does not match Jefferson 's actual beliefs. Jefferson was vehemently opposed to the fundamentalist cult that has taken over "Christianity" today, as were several of our founding Fathers.

Our nation was not founded upon the principle of the Christian religion. Jefferson himself advocated strongly the separation of church and state. And he did this because of the ignoble history of violence of the Pat Robertson school of Christian intolerance that rejects, rather than embraces our brothers and sisters homeless and in refuge, but without sanctuary, from Iraq and around the world.

And sadly, this intolerance, which decries Jefferson's inclusive beliefs, which is labeled as Christianity, continues to cause the death of hundreds of thousands of people every year.

"Millions of innocent men, women and children, since the introduction of Christianity, have been burnt, tortured, fined and imprisoned; yet we have not advanced one inch towards uniformity. What has been the effect of coercion? To make one half the world fools, and the other half hypocrites. To support roguery and error all over the earth."

Source: Thomas Jefferson, "Religion" in Notes on the State of Virginia (1782), p. 286.

The issue of the separation of church and state may have been misunderstood for many years now. Douglas Gibbs, Constitutional Historian, explains it in a blog he wrote during an upcoming election in 2010. Check it out - http://politicalpistachio.blogspot.com/2010/10/separation-of-church-and-state.html

Verify your Comment

Previewing your Comment

This is only a preview. Your comment has not yet been posted.

Your comment could not be posted. Error type:
Your comment has been posted. Post another comment

The letters and numbers you entered did not match the image. Please try again.

As a final step before posting your comment, enter the letters and numbers you see in the image below. This prevents automated programs from posting comments.

Having trouble reading this image? View an alternate.


Post a comment

Your Information

(Name is required. Email address will not be displayed with the comment.)


  • Welcome to the Church of the Churchless. If this is your first visit, click on "About this site--start here" in the Categories section below.
  • HinesSight
    Visit my other weblog, HinesSight, for a broader view of what's happening in the world of your Church unpastor, his wife, and dog.
  • BrianHines.com
    Take a look at my web site, which contains information about a subject of great interest to me: me.
  • Twitter with me
    Join Twitter and follow my tweets about whatever.
  • I Hate Church of the Churchless
    Can't stand this blog? Believe the guy behind it is an idiot? Rant away on our anti-site.