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September 18, 2015

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Like I said in my introduction to your message, I'm pleased that you've become disillusioned with Rajinder Singh. Like you say, he may be a good person -- perhaps even a "saint" (whatever that means) -- but almost certainly he is not God in Human Form.

I enjoyed your thoughts about how it isn't necessary to meditate 2.5 hours a day in a certain required way to feel a sense of spirituality, peace, love, and calmness.

I used to do that myself, meditate for several hours a day. I did that for many years. Now, I meditate only for 20 minutes in the morning in a secular Buddhist/Taoist fashion. Works for me, and even better than the much lengthier more mystical sort of previous meditation did.

You're in a difficult transition period, having separated yourself from people (the "satsang") who shared your previous beliefs. It's natural to feel a bit lonely and maybe even have some doubts about whether you've done the right thing.

I'm quite sure that you have.

Be strong. Be true to yourself. If there is a God (I doubt there is, but anything is possible, just not probable), I'm confident that She is looking fondly upon you, pleased that you've chosen truth over falsehood.

Thanks for sharing Brian.

There are several ways to be half a minute ENTIRELY THOUGHTLESS
while being very awake.


- Ascese and so during many many lives li

- Work hard on meditations under the guidance of one who knows the way and can help you when you are 'IN'

- The glance of a as you say a HIHM

777

ps
When somebody had the bad chance to find the wrong guide or an ignoramous , charlatan,
you can always go on and best try to find the last option

I am very sorry to hear about your painful experience. I hope that you and your son will recover well from this. My best wishes to you!

by the way,
that guy looks very scary!!

i would like to talk to this person. I am not initiated but i meditate. But 2 and a half hours for two years and no experience... is a long time. there must be something wrong. the child crying is really unfortunate. at times members may be unscrupulous and act irrationally. they should have been gentle with the child. nevertheless; what i am saying is, one hour of meditation for a few days would at least increase your concentration to a level that u can see the flashes of lights(looks like bright stars blinking). I never liked reciting mantras or doing simran because like what the author said; u would fine yourself chanting even when you dont want too. Well; we can see and observe this phenomenon when we listen to a song and then the song gets stuck in the head. the writer should have told the master that i cant see anything (when the master touched his eyes); and should have observed the masters actions. meditation has its benefits. NTNU, university of amsterdam... to name a few are doing researches based on it. What is meditation? Its keeping your mind focused. thats it. All the rules and regulations are becoming too noisy. do this, do that.....I think most of us prefer a good and a simple life.

If you don't mind, i recommend you to talk with Rajinder singh personally or send him a letter, he can give you a good answer.

well, one of rajinder's biggest supporters and now family member (son married the daughter of rajinder) publically slandered a Saint in his 'book' journey to the luminous.

So whatever, is what say.

Just a pile of blah blah blah....

As it seem to me, India's democrats don't point out relentlessly enough that state and religion should be sepreated if a nation wants to be called a democrasy. And I'm not saying that a nation that does have that particular point in its constituition is a proper democrasy just because they do have this pointed out in their constitution. Anyway...

It is a fact, in modern political science, that religion has no right to interfere in politics because the realms those two utterly seperate kinds of "sciences" don't go together. They are like fire and water. They can not exist in the same place at the same time.

Self-proclaimed religious people, who use their particular brand of religion to further their religious agenda by engaging in politcs, are just this: Another can of wormes, that makes democrasy look like as if it needs any kind of support from "the beyond", while it just DON'T.

MY EXPERIENCE IN THE PRESENCE OF SANT RAJINDER SINGH JI MAHARAJA IN THE LASTS 19 YEARS HAS BEEN THE BEST EXPERIENCE OF MY LIFE. I HAVE ONLY SEEN PERFECTION...IN THIS HOLY SATGURU. HIS GUIDANCE..WITHIN AND IN MUNDANE LIFE..HAS BEEN .FILLED WITH DIVINE GRACE .AND DIVINE.LOVE.MANY OF THE BROTHERS AND SISTERS I AM BLESSED YO KNOW ALSO SHARE THIS BLESSING.I FEEL LIKE THE MOST FORTUNATE..SOUL.HE HAS HELPED ALL MY FAMILY...MY FRIENDS CO WORKERS....I SEE HIS HAND IN EVERY ASPECT OF MY LIVE EVERY MOMENT..ALL LOVE AND LIGHT KATHRYN ROSE

TO ADD TO THE EXPERINCE ABOVE I HAVE THE SAME EXPERIENCE IN THE PRESENCE OF A TRUE GODMAN SANT RAJINDER SINGH JI MAHARAJA IN THE LASTS 25 YEARS HAS BEEN THE BEST EXPERIENCE OF MY LIFE. THERE IS ONLY PERFECTION...HIS GUIDANCE..WITHIN AND IN MUNDANE LIFE..HAS BEEN .FILLED WITH DIVINE GRACE .AND DIVINE.LOVE.MANY OF THE BROTHERS AND SISTERS I AM BLESSED YO KNOW ALSO SHARE THIS BLESSING.I FEEL LIKE THE MOST FORTUNATE..SOUL.HE HAS HELPED ALL MY FAMILY...MY FRIENDS CO WORKERS....I SEE HIS HAND IN EVERY ASPECT OF MY LIVE EVERY MOMENT..ALL LOVE AND LIGHT

THOSE WHO SAY THEY HAVE NOT RECEIVED ANYTHING IN THE PRESENCE OF HH.SANT RAJINDER SINGH JI MAHARAJ ARE NOT RECEPTIVE TO THE MASTER POWER / GOD POWER WORKING WITHIN AND ARE ONLY RECEPTIVE TO THE MIND WHICH PUTS EVERYTHING IN DUALITY. EVEN IN THE BASIC LAW OF PHYSICS IT IS A PROVEN FACT THAT IF ONE SITS NEAR THE FIRE WILL HAVE THE EFFECT FROM THE HEAT. SAME THING APPLIES IN SPIRITUALITY ONE HAS TO BE RECEPTIVE TO GAIN ANYTHING ON THIS SPIRITUAL PATH.

Kathryn Rose & Vick Bost,

You are probably the same person - and just a tip - there is a button on the keyboard labelled CAPS LOCK - press it once.

Perfection? You see what you want to see. You will delete, distort anything that is not 'perfect' to make it fit.

This is what the mind does once it believes something.

If you create a belief that Rijindar is a godman and perfect - you will make sure you are right - and change the incoming data accordingly.

First you have to define what you mean by perfect, Almost certainly you will have trouble defining it.

It's a great excuse to say those who don't get anything are not receptive.

I could say I see unicorns everywhere - and if you don't, its because you are not receptive enough to the unicorn-power (master-power)

Share with us your actual inner experience. Since you are just an anonymous person - you are not breaking any vows.

How do you perceive that you are blessed by his grace?

Can anyone tel me where i can mail/ contact/ call Maharaj ji ??

dear, I'm very sorry to learn about your experience, I totally comprehend to your feelings but please don't mind if I say, everyone's life and karma are different and everyone takes their own time to get those experiences, I appreciate you meditate around 2 hours, I'd recommend you keep it up and try visiting the master to get your answers, try reading his books with nor +ve or -ve thought. I wish you all the best Lord bless you!

Here's a copy paste for you from a book written by Sant Kirpal
" God has to look after His children, of course through some human pole. It is helpful to pray to Him, “O Lord, wherever You are, appear to me.” If the prayer is sincere He will most definitely answer. He has appeared to sincere people who have neither seen nor heard Him. History has shown, and even recent incidents have proven that prayer is answered."
Don't get upset, just sit calm and pray to Lord sincerely, he'll certainly listen


Rajinder singh has superpowers . I WAS his disciple. And i have experienced his superpowers. He has not one, but many superpowers. Reason why i’m no longer is disciple cause i had a first hand experience of his superpowers and it was too much for me to handle. So, here’s a list of his powers which each one of you here will agree.
1- Not ‘God’man but ‘Con’man ! - it needs some great skills to fool people over all these years. Or may be, we are too easy to get fooled by this loser rajinder.
2- do super cars count as a superpower too? - it’s okay to buy big cars if you gotta big butt like him, and a whole lot of charity money by your blind followers.
3- Oh yes, marketing is in his blood- just see how his spiritual organisation has evolved into a big fat company of a chain of aashrams, schools, etc..across the globe, with obviously, my cute rajinder being the owner.
4- Rajinder always wins the race against time- no matter how early you make to his ‘sat’sangs..you’re eventually going to get late. If you know what i mean..
5- rajinder loves to color his facial hair, forhead hair, eyebrows etc..And then he preaches about our attachement with this body.
Okay, i’m already feeling too lowlife. I have wasted about a couple of years over rajinder, and now, 5 more minutes. No rajinder, you can’t let me fall for you again.
Sorry.
Not sorry.
P.s. oh rajinder, you bloody coriander.

1. If you are Initiated and have got light and sound. From what I understand you have the passport to make your way to the highest realm.
2. The Master has given you all he can. The sound burns away your daily karmas and the light guides you on your way. Both are essential for union with the Master and liberation of the soul.
3. The lighter you make the load the quicker your ascent into higher realms. Hence ethical living and regular meditation as prescribed.
4. There are four realms and four ethereal bodies to die from before the soul can be set free from the mind. Thinking is a process that needs to be observed and silenced.
5. If your mind is engaged in thinking and you have not learned to silent it - it will distract you even more especially in meditation. The charged names will help focus the attention to free you from the body and senses.
6. Keep meditating on the light and the sound as per instruction. If you digress it takes longer so attend Satsangs cause that helps keep you on track and there is a charging there that helps as well.
7. Good Luck.

There many book online that you can read.
Here is one I enjoyed. https://www.scribd.com/doc/30325642/Sawan-Singh-Discourses-on-Sant-Mat

Answer to the very good comment of Scinece of Stupidity : those powers are black magic, tricks. Maybe a connection ( i know little about all this and also do not want to know) with strange beings? Ghosts?
And of course, loads of money plus the free help of meditators who are specialized in marketing and willing to work for the guru, also help a lot.

I was told by Indian people who see through all those socalled gurus that they use magic. All experiences you may have are the result of manipulation (on deep level) and are NOT good for you at all. They may even damage you very deeply. Without you noticing it as those snakes Always have an answer when you complain.

Looking back (i left many years ago) I see clearly that the meditation is dangerous, the experiences dangerous too and not beneficial for anybody except the guru and his followers. Money money.
Most of the other meditators were mentally unstable (some real lunatics) and if they were not, they became unstable in the long run because of their efforts to do the meditation. Others had many problems in life and were looking for help. Instead of that they got exploited.
It is evil. the very best part of you gets exploited and you may get severe health and mental problems because of it.You are the victim of vultures, but vultures who present themselves very well.
For new comers in such an organization it is not easy to see through the crooks. You think to have ended up in a meditation that is not after money - but they sure are though and for big money too, and they use in some way your spiritual energy for themselves .
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Please everybody leave these snakes and find your own way, your real own simple way with both feet on the earth .


So glad i left, if these so called gurus use black magic that is a spiritual thing and it cannot be dealt with by "your real own simple way with both feet on the earth."

If you are under a spiritual attack you need spiritual protection.

I was initiated by Kirpal Singh in 1969. I spent 6 months with him in India. I had enough inner experiences (inner light, sound current) to feel satisfied. He was a true mystic I believe and I beilieve he really had no desire to be a guru. He once whispered to me while passing, I would not wish this job on anyone.

I have a lot of trouble with the present situation where the Guru's daughter is married to a multi-millionaire cereal king's son. Having experienced Kirpal, I can say for me personally that there is nothing there for me with Rajinder.

I also believe that it is challenging to find a true spiritual friend. I feel Kirpal was that for me. The Satsang ( religion) was and still is often a lot of unevolved petty egos masking themselves as spiritual. Parshad is now marketing for the cerial king.

Someone advice writing Rajinder. Good luck. My wife had a letter hand delivered and we never heard a word.

I hope you do find the light and sound. I can only tell you that they are real and truly ecstatic.

Having said that do not lose your health or sanity or dignity in the search.

Dear Seeker(s)
A true perfect living master will not call himself a master
A true perfect living master will not ask for money for his discourses, initiations, etc.
A true perfect living master will never leave the disciple but be a friend forever

I feel when a satsangi is in intense pain.... physical... psychological...mental.... economically...and it's unbearable and he continues to be in same state from 30 years then HE must intervene and make the things favourable to suit him Upto the extent atleast that he shouldn't have any complaints for the pain and losses of last 30 years. 30 years are enough my dear friend to suffer.

I am also very sorry about hearing your experience with Maharaj Ji. I have been initiated for 20 years now from the Master, and I considered myself not a perfect disciple. I don't know whether or not you have had the opportunity to meet the Master, but honestly, I have seen him only 4 times in my years to initiation. I have also visited many other cults, religions, and talked to many other people, and I can say that being a disciple of a perfect Master is the hardest challenge of my life and it may take my whole life to perfect the art of mediation. Like a profession, practicing meditation requires constant and accurate practice, and even is doing it, it is only the grace of God when can have those practices.

Still, even if I get very few experiences, trying to achieve perfection will never ever be a waste of time. At the end, we all are gonna pass away, whether we are from one religion or another.

Disillusioned disciple - You were expecting heaven in one sitting when we are so full of sins and imperfections. It takes 16 years of hard grind of labor in school starting as a young child and another 4-8 years to master a subject in this world or to gain proficiency in any field. If you started out in school/college with this judgemental attitude and quit the first instance something did not appeal to you, you would be nowhere. Yet to find God who is the ocean of all perfection, love, bliss, we want instant miracles and are not willing to meditate or weed out our own imperfections! Start with an open mind and a willingness on your part (meditation and ethical living) before judging and criticizing a revered Spiritual teacher whom millions love and respect because of his unconditional love and ability to connect seekers to the divine light and heavenly music without charging any money!! Ultimately it is your choice!!! No one is forcing you to do meditate or follow a meditation teacher. So be at peace and don’t hurt others with your criticism who love and revere their spiritual teacher out of heart and not because of any compulsion simply because they have been benefitted immensely.

Oh, for Heaven's sake! It is blindingly obvious that Master Rajinder is a very high soul. He is also a rare example of a spiritual teacher who is genuinely supportive and friendly to those of us caught up in a controversial personality scenario. What more could be wanted in life. Go to work. (I think you know what I'm talking about.)

Lol

You are absolutely right. I am someone who has really positive spiritual experiences in Hindu temples, where i go into a state of bliss and connect with the higher power.

I joined this meditation when i was recovering from an illness, to feel good, as i stay abroad and don't have a temple nearby to soak in the positive energy. It was fine for a week, as everything looked positive and nice. After a week, true colours started coming out. They use Abusive language, don't respect ancient scriptures or traditions and rubbish festivals which are meant to bring joy. I was expected to undo all my past spiritual experiences and only follow their teachings. I believe in meditation, but this was getting too suffocating for me as I receive massive spiritual energy through devotion. Hinduism is pluralistic, and we have several paths to attaining moksha, one being devotion. And devotion in this case only meant devotion to guru. I found it too superficial and stopped going for this meditation and went back to the path which gives me bliss!

Dear disillusioned Satsangi,
Your main grudge against the Master stems from your child’s ear ache. You write that your son wept and you didn’t listen to him. How is that Master’s fault? The organiser of the event wasn’t known to your kid, did your child trustingly narrate the cause of his discomfort to the Satsangi? I would confront the concerned person and clarify before posting on a hate blog!
How is the foreigner manager pushing you around? You again shoot an accusation without Instantiating. You have never talked to Master and call the entire Mission a scam.
As far as SEVA is concerned, I am sure nobody ever stopped you from reaching out to orphaned children. The ashram precincts only allow regular platform to contribute through voluntary service. What do you know about dairy in India? Cows are respected like a mother, treated like a pet and loved like a member of the family in most parts of rural India. Indians gave not yet adopted heartless ways of American dairy farming completely. So yes, dairy is allowed here. If you had just asked this question to the Master, he would have to,d you that veganism is wonderful and dairy is allowed only as long as cows are not mal-treated. FYI, Master is a vegan himself.
Oh and about the male Masters, santmat is the only path which doesn’t discriminate on the basis of gender, class, region, religion etc. History and historians do carry that bias though. Ever heard of Saint Sahjo bai, Rabia Basri? Women, meditators par excellence. If you manage to raise a daughter without forcing her into strict gender roles, without tying her down within strict ties of patriarchy, expose her to early meditation experience and if she manages to find her spiritual calling- sure, no one on the path would oppose her being a Saint and Master. I wont say anything about your spiritual experience since that is your personal agenda. But so far, your blog proves that you went on the Path feeling privilege (for being a Westerner?), you did not seek clear communication, you make too many assumptions and pass ill-informed judgements. Also you couldn’t talk to the Master in English, but wrote a lengthy hate blog in not-your-mother-tongue language! Let go of your egotistical high point and think!

Dear Scinece of Stupidity,
Thanks for being so clear about your introduction. Reads- stupidity, fool, lowlife!
It is clear that you are jealous of his and his family’s success in worldly affairs. Well, like many Indians, they worked hard and made it big in America without the White man’s privilege.
So you have a problem with Master’s daughter marrying the son of a millionaire. My question is why can’t she find love in a man who follows the same path as her and happens to come from a well-off family? Aren’t you jealous that your daughter couldn’t or wouldn’t find someone as handsome, as well suited a man as her husband?
If you seek a beggar for a Master, who has no money, cannot groom himself- well, many homeless, delusional clowns like you would be a good company.

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