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September 13, 2014

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When I am wound up in a sense of self, me or I, this is when I am a soul drop, a separate entity that has a problem of existence or non-existence, of death.

Other times "I" seem not to exist. There is just the driving of the car, the walking on the trail, the hearing people talk, the words emitting from this mouth, the seeing of the houses, trees and bugs, the lifting of the shovel, the smell of diesel exhaust. Life is what I am and my head has no boundaries. Maybe in these moments the drop has merged into the ocean. I don't know. In these moments death has no meaning, or life either other than the present living of it. Where would I go at death other than right here wherever that may be, where it has been all along.

...my head has no boundaries.

The brain is just an organ. It has its limits.

Where would I go at death other than right here wherever that may be, where it has been all along.

You haven't been here "all along" because you didn't exist until your parents conceived you. When you die, you won't "go" anywhere or remain "right here" because you will have ceased to exist.

Meh to all of the above lol. Maybe we are living in a virtual reality, a kind of massive computer simulation and every now and then theres a glitch and we experience deja vu or we witness some kind of unnatural phenomena which doesn't make sense enough for the brain to decipher.

Some scientists say that just like in The Matrix we may too be living in a simulation generated by an all powerful computer.

So, who is running the computer in charge of this massive experiment where we find ourselves stuck in a kind of web where we are suffering from amnesia and have to be programmed from the moment we are born to be able to function here on this little rock spinning through space in a vast physical universe.

Maybe super intelligent highly advanced extra terrestrials, or maybe inter-dimensional entities, or just to make it simple we could call it Kal who is running the show.

So all the Shamans, Mystics, and Sages today and yesterday have it all wrong about life beyond the physical world or may I say in addition to it??

All experiences of Shamanic journeying and Mystical flight in meditation or within the dream state are just pure fantasy and illusion??

So, what makes Sam Harris or anyone else so certain that all such experiences are illusions. How can anyone say with absolute certainty that nothings exists beyond the physical? Who really knows for sure.

I can support what Tuscon says - that there is a certain aspect of consciousness that one may experience that is beyond the normal confines of ego consciousness. What that is or who it is that experiences this I have no clue. But, I understand what Tuscon has experienced.


The brain is a locus of assemblage, a neuron or cell in the greater mind of the universe that percolates endless cells or loci in a sort of cosmic head of beer each bubble forming and bursting returning to its source.

Of course what fundamentally I am (beer) has been here all along, otherwise my existence would have never arrived.

Infinity goes both ways you know. When did time begin as a launching point so that anything could ever appear?

Maybe we are living in a virtual reality

Maybe if you were more interested in what you can actually find out you wouldn't have to entertain yourself with fanciful notions.

When did time begin as a launching point so that anything could ever appear?

For tucson, time began when his parents conceived him.

How can anyone say with absolute certainty that nothings exists beyond the physical?

Religion pretends to know what "exists beyond the physical", and science admits to knowing only what it can detect and measure, so how can you be so confused?

Regarding time and notions of duration and origins, scientists seem to like the 'big bang' explanation for existence. They see all the movement and expansion of countless galaxies in immeasurable space as originating from the explosion of this infinitesimally small speck of energy. Never mind where it came from. This is the scientists' God... "Mommy who made the world?" "God, honey" "And who made God?" "Well, I don't know dear. God just always was." The scientist says, "I dunno how the big bang stuff got there. It just did. We're still working on that one."

If there were this primordial causative event, how did it's moment to occur ever arrive?

When we think of infinity in a time sense, we think of time as going go on forever without end even if, due to entropic degradation, the universe dissipates into the nothing from whence it supposedly came. Even so, in the conventional concept of time, time will still pass eternally whether there is anything present or not, in the same way time passes in an empty closet.

Even if there is not a mind to conceive it, time passes if you want to think of time as something that passes. Even if there is nothing, time passes although without a conceiving mind a billion years is not even a billionth of a second. It is nothing.

That's what scares the crap out of many people about death, the concept that their non-existence is never-ending into the incomprehensible duration of an infinity where a thousand billion trillion trillion eons to the trillionth power is an infinitesimal fraction of the beginning moment.

But this incomprehensible duration of time not only goes into the future but extends into the past as well. So, we have this big bang. Fine, but with time going infinitely into the past how did the moment for the big bang to occur ever arrive? I mean if we're going to be dead forever why weren't we unborn forever?

Yet, here we are. Or so it seems.

quote cc:

"Maybe if you were more interested in what you can actually find out you wouldn't have to entertain yourself with fanciful notions."

and

"science admits to knowing only what it can detect and measure"

So then, exactly who are these ''experts" who can provide all the answers? Sometimes the gods of science have some very fanciful notions. Such as...

"Do we live in the Matrix? Scientists believe they may have answered the question"...

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/science/science-news/10451983/Do-we-live-in-the-Matrix-Scientists-believe-they-may-have-answered-the-question.html

From the article:

"If they think this world is a simulation, then why do they think the superminds – who are outside the simulation – would be constrained by the same sorts of thoughts and methods that we are?"

I don't know cc, but maybe we are constrained by the thoughts and methods we use now but smart humans are evolving and one day might become superminds themselves.

I like this from the article:

"It is an interesting idea, and it’s healthy to have some crazy ideas. You don’t want to censor ideas according to whether they seem sensible or not because sometimes important new advances will seem crazy to start with.

You never know when good ideas may come from thinking outside the box. This matrix thought-experiment is actually a bit like some ideas of Descartes and Berkeley, hundreds of years ago.

Even if there turns out to be nothing in it, the fact that you have got into the habit of thinking crazy things could mean that at some point you are going to think of something that initially may seem rather way out, but turns out not to be crazy at all."

"Do we live in the Matrix? Scientists believe they may have answered the question"...

Yes : 7 descends like inception movie

Normally you have to die 7 times for the top consciousness
but Saints can 'just' absorb a guy or gurl -great deal

777


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