Comments on Become your own weird religion of oneTypePad2013-08-24T04:30:31ZBrian Hineshttps://hinessight.blogs.com/church_of_the_churchless/tag:typepad.com,2003:https://hinessight.blogs.com/church_of_the_churchless/2013/08/become-your-own-weird-religion-of-one/comments/atom.xml/the9thGate commented on 'Become your own weird religion of one'tag:typepad.com,2003:6a00d83451c0aa69e2019104fb4831970c2013-08-26T16:20:17Z2013-08-26T17:55:20Zthe9thGateNice post Brian. I can relate....whatever you do; don't give your religion a name.<p>Nice post Brian. I can relate....whatever you do; don't give your religion a name. </p>cc commented on 'Become your own weird religion of one'tag:typepad.com,2003:6a00d83451c0aa69e201901f03451f970b2013-08-26T03:26:50Z2013-08-26T17:55:21ZccBut it is always a case of the pot calling the kettle black. Sometimes - not always.<p>But it is always a case of the pot calling the kettle black.</p>
<p>Sometimes - not always. </p>Willie R. commented on 'Become your own weird religion of one'tag:typepad.com,2003:6a00d83451c0aa69e201901f032cc1970b2013-08-26T02:50:00Z2013-08-26T17:55:21ZWillie R.cc - my smugness and condescending attitude are merely facets of what I privately realize. I do not look down...<p>cc - my smugness and condescending attitude are merely facets of what I privately realize. I do not look down my nose at other human beings. <br />
Most people who engage me in metaphysical rhetoric simply dismiss me as irrelevant. But it is always a case of the pot calling the kettle black.</p>cc commented on 'Become your own weird religion of one'tag:typepad.com,2003:6a00d83451c0aa69e2019104f8ed9f970c2013-08-26T02:00:43Z2013-08-26T02:36:42Zccif Brian's point was for anyone to "keep it to yourself", not only would there be no responses, but there...<p>if Brian's point was for anyone to "keep it to yourself", not only would there be no responses, but there would not be a blog of this nature.</p>
<p>Here's what Brian said: "Preaching on my churchless blog is irritating", and, "So if you're religious, have at it. Proclaim your religiousness. Just not here."</p>
<p>You said, "I am smug and condescending when it comes to my beliefs. They work for me, and I know you, the reader, do not give a shit about that. In turn, I do not give a shit about what you think, either."</p>
<p>Your statement struck me as preachy and religious, but Brian didn't see it that way. He draws a line between personal and conventional religion that I find negligible. </p>Willie R. commented on 'Become your own weird religion of one'tag:typepad.com,2003:6a00d83451c0aa69e201901f029833970b2013-08-25T22:30:06Z2013-08-26T02:36:42ZWillie R.Well, cc - if Brian's point was for anyone to "keep it to yourself", not only would there be no...<p>Well, cc - if Brian's point was for anyone to "keep it to yourself", not only would there be no responses, but there would not be a blog of this nature.</p>
<p>I'll shut up when I'm dead.</p>Blogger Brian commented on 'Become your own weird religion of one'tag:typepad.com,2003:6a00d83451c0aa69e2019104f83555970c2013-08-25T20:48:08Z2013-08-25T20:48:12ZBlogger Brianhttp://profile.typepad.com/brihinesWillie R, great comment. Love your honesty and overall attitude. Pleasingly realistic without being super-cynical. You may have seen my...<p>Willie R, great comment. Love your honesty and overall attitude. Pleasingly realistic without being super-cynical. You may have seen my post about my mescaline-fueled revelation about the nature of reality:<br />
<a href="http://hinessight.blogs.com/hinessight/2004/11/minisecret_of_u.html" rel="nofollow">http://hinessight.blogs.com/hinessight/2004/11/minisecret_of_u.html</a></p>
<p>We were doing psychedelics at the same time. Me, late 1960's. Strange and wonderful times. Nothing like them likely will ever happen again. Well, of course this wont happen. Nothing ever happens again in the same way.</p>cc commented on 'Become your own weird religion of one'tag:typepad.com,2003:6a00d83451c0aa69e20192acc0a86d970d2013-08-25T16:19:53Z2013-08-25T17:33:33ZccThat's my religion, and mine alone. ...and Brian's point is that you should keep it to yourself.<p>That's my religion, and mine alone.</p>
<p>...and Brian's point is that you should keep it to yourself.</p>cc commented on 'Become your own weird religion of one'tag:typepad.com,2003:6a00d83451c0aa69e201901f019797970b2013-08-25T15:44:09Z2013-08-25T17:33:34ZccSome people rationalize their irrational belief systems so they can believe they also value reason Yes, everyone holds irrational beliefs...<p>Some people rationalize their irrational belief systems so they can believe they also value reason</p>
<p>Yes, everyone holds irrational beliefs and most of us believe we're not irrational people, but no one can hold a belief that violates their sense of who they are.</p>
<p>We believe what serves our sense of identity, regardless of how mistaken we may be, so our beliefs are always consistent with some notion of who and what the believer is. If I believe the guru's words are The Truth, I know who I am and behave accordingly. Likewise when I know I can always be mistaken and deluded. Your beliefs, no matter how loony or lucid they may be, are consistent with a notion of yourself, so you can't hold a conflicting belief without changing your sense of yourself. </p>Willie R. commented on 'Become your own weird religion of one'tag:typepad.com,2003:6a00d83451c0aa69e201901f0176b1970b2013-08-25T14:53:38Z2013-08-25T17:33:34ZWillie R.I used to drop a lot of acid in the late 60's/early 70's. During one of my earlier trips, I...<p>I used to drop a lot of acid in the late 60's/early 70's. During one of my earlier trips, I was a back seat passenger in my friend's vehicle - he was driving and his brother was riding shotgun. I had just come to realize a profoundly deep insight into the nature of Reality, and I wanted to tell my friend and his brother about it.<br />
They were engaged in a conversation themselves, and would brook no interference despite my vocal supplications. By the time I finally gave up trying to solicit their attention, I had totally forgotten what I wanted to say to them. Then the further and more important insight into the nature of Reality hit me: they don't give a shit what's going on between my ears. Nor was I capable of giving a shit about what was going on between their ears.</p>
<p>I never forgot that realization. Even now, this very message flies in the face of that realization.</p>
<p>We all have a tendency to think that we know something that all others do not know, and that if they did know it, they would be all the better for it (or the worse for it, if that knowledge would make things difficult to accept). </p>
<p>I am smug and condescending when it comes to my beliefs. They work for me, and I know you, the reader, do not give a shit about that. In turn, I do not give a shit about what you think, either.</p>
<p>That's my religion, and mine alone.</p>Skeptic commented on 'Become your own weird religion of one'tag:typepad.com,2003:6a00d83451c0aa69e201901f015ed2970b2013-08-25T14:16:31Z2013-08-25T17:33:34ZSkepticNot sure I can agree with you cc. I think a lot of people hold irrational beliefs, but the difference...<p>Not sure I can agree with you cc. I think a lot of people hold irrational beliefs, but the difference between those people and you is that you value reason. Some people don't, so they have no problem knowing a belief does not hold up to rational scrutiny. Some people rationalize their irrational belief systems so they can believe they also value reason, buy others just don't care.</p>ilovedrann commented on 'Become your own weird religion of one'tag:typepad.com,2003:6a00d83451c0aa69e201901efcbc93970b2013-08-24T15:53:53Z2013-08-24T19:31:42ZilovedrannImagine how interesting it will get if ya go senile. As in: "errrr...what was that wonderful thing i was believing...<p>Imagine how interesting it will get if ya go senile. As in: "errrr...what was that wonderful thing i was believing in just a moment ago?"</p>cc commented on 'Become your own weird religion of one'tag:typepad.com,2003:6a00d83451c0aa69e201901efcb700970b2013-08-24T15:48:16Z2013-08-24T19:31:42ZccSo I'm fine with irrational, unproven, far-out, evidence-free belief systems. They just need to be restricted to the confines of...<p>So I'm fine with irrational, unproven, far-out, evidence-free belief systems. They just need to be restricted to the confines of a single human brain. Mine. Yours.</p>
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We're held by irrational beliefs we're unconscious of until, by consciously holding them to the light of reason and evidence we're disabused of them, so I don't believe you or anyone, Brian, can hold a belief that is clearly irrational. </p>