Comments on Separating numinous from supernaturalTypePad2013-06-03T03:30:30ZBrian Hineshttps://hinessight.blogs.com/church_of_the_churchless/tag:typepad.com,2003:https://hinessight.blogs.com/church_of_the_churchless/2013/06/separating-numinous-from-supernatural/comments/atom.xml/ragambet commented on 'Separating numinous from supernatural'tag:typepad.com,2003:6a00d83451c0aa69e202942f94ed9c200c2022-01-23T06:04:20Z2022-01-23T06:04:20Zragambethttps://188.166.254.141/thanks for sharing<p>thanks for sharing</p>777 commented on 'Separating numinous from supernatural'tag:typepad.com,2003:6a00d83451c0aa69e201901d2ca7ea970b2013-06-09T10:21:20Z2013-06-09T17:19:48Z777Roger yes it's the same as the maximum you can remember when you had this supercrush on a girl It's...<p>Roger<br />
yes it's the same as the maximum you can remember when you had this supercrush on a girl<br />
It's done with our imaging power</p>
<p>But it ever grows<br />
from a molecule to a kind of Mount Everest</p>
<p>There is nothing static in that phenomenon<br />
It is a wave form but spiraling up </p>
<p>It is pushed by that sound that probably<br />
every human hears without being aware</p>
<p>Once aware the Three join<br />
and part of the Ego is absorb in it<br />
like happens<br />
with interference in music</p>
<p>Advaitist say that there is silence but that is just before things start to happen before the highs chakra opens</p>
<p>Also a little remark about physical dhyan<br />
You must agree and let happen but the value of looking with your eyes to a person 'more developed' than you is that<br />
where one has to sit for hours before things 'happen'<br />
the holy guy makes happen these things without the slightest effort<br />
other than the train to go there.</p>
<p>In that way I was really made sure that Gurinder is Charan s successor<br />
Although much less impressive as a guy<br />
he makes it happen also, these things<br />
you don't have to work for.</p>
<p>SuperPath, Yes, nice is also that it's not for the pious people</p>
<p>there are some but a lot of scum :) is there too.</p>
<p>Even if a neuro biologist explains to me<br />
that it's all my own mind and I might agree ( wiki solopism )<br />
I wouldn't have missed a second of my long life</p>
<p>Cheers</p>
<p><br />
</p>tucson commented on 'Separating numinous from supernatural'tag:typepad.com,2003:6a00d83451c0aa69e20191030d3e23970c2013-06-07T06:24:10Z2013-06-08T02:46:52Ztucson There need be no other understanding than the obvious...that what I-HERE-NOW-AM is no object. If I am no objective thing,...<p>There need be no other understanding than the obvious...that what I-HERE-NOW-AM is no object. </p>
<p>If I am no objective thing, I am not a subject either because a subject is an object.</p>
<p>Anything other than this direct perception implies an entity conceptualizing.</p>
<p>Even this that is being said here now can become conceptual. If so, then I become some objectivized thing. But I cannot be thought because what I am is necessarily unconscious of being conscious.</p>
<p>As a thought, being conceptualized, I see that what I am is that kind of object which is no-object. But what I am is not a no-object. I am total objective absence which is total subjective presence, unaware of absence as of presence.</p>
<p>I, therefore, am not, whereby I AM, I who am necessarily everything and no thing and neither any nor no thing.</p>
<p>So, the Universe is I.</p>
<p>You are what I am and I am what you are. I am what God is. </p>
<p>Is God what we are?</p>
<p>YES! If we sing it.</p>Roger commented on 'Separating numinous from supernatural'tag:typepad.com,2003:6a00d83451c0aa69e20192aacf9228970d2013-06-06T17:04:03Z2013-06-07T02:24:45ZRoger"I was initiated in 1965 and there was no second without the feel I describe here. It is a splendid...<p>"I was initiated in 1965 and there was no second without the feel I describe here. It is a splendid Path"</p>
<p>---Where is the "Radiant Face" experienced? Inside the brain or some other place? How does the human brain create a 'splendid' path? Is the brain creating the 'feel' as described, since 1965? Please don't ask me to read a book or website. </p>777 commented on 'Separating numinous from supernatural'tag:typepad.com,2003:6a00d83451c0aa69e20192aacc5bf6970d2013-06-06T10:10:11Z2013-06-06T16:56:32Z777Hi You are existing a long time but today is the first time I m looking It's a lot to...<p>Hi</p>
<p>You are existing a long time<br />
but today is the first time I m looking</p>
<p>It's a lot to go through all stuff but I think You c q readers/commenters<br />
there are some doubting the existance of God</p>
<p>Ever heard of 'solopism'<br />
It is that a "source" plays a storybook with himself</p>
<p>Just You alone exist, all other stuff , me included is virtual</p>
<p>Amnesia is implied for activating more realness<br />
and yes reincarnation(s) in the same game so that all this wilml not end itself to rapidly.</p>
<p>Now, advaita people they always talk about Oneness but not really as solopism<br />
because when you really believed that<br />
you would be SO alone.</p>
<p>I think it is exactly like said<br />
because there is no other reasoable explanation <br />
To win the lotto<br />
is mathematically a 1: 50 billion chance</p>
<p>but to exist is much less</p>
<p>If you place a zero on each electron<br />
in the univers it wouldn't be enough.</p>
<p>Further because the whole enterprise can take hazardous forms there is a rescue security exit<br />
which is identifying yourself with<br />
the Sound, a strange expression on this forum be bewitched , . . like Guru Nanak says.</p>
<p>Anybody can join, also the people outside the Disneyland</p>
<p>The reason God is doing this trick and many other tricks is very simple</p>
<p>Imaging you are so powerful and you have everything . . .</p>
<p>what would you like to receive for birthday</p>
<p>Nothing can apply than LOVE</p>
<p>So , if from each Galaxy the gain would be One Saint_like person filled with love<br />
the love_harvest would be immense<br />
But<br />
grace to some compassionated jeevas, . . who share, . . it is more</p>
<p>Charan said : " It ever grows"</p>
<p>Yes , that's a part of the trick<br />
There is no heaven although there is the seventh heaven ( vvirtually but real )</p>
<p>You are already in that system of approaching this knot of accumulated love at a center In a spiral way approach ( fibonnaci way )</p>
<p>You never be the center<br />
and Swami Ji confirms this saying<br />
there is Alakh, Agam etc</p>
<p>Imaging how "long" this is underway already</p>
<p>You can consume all those experiences<br />
while approaching this center<br />
It's a big giant Fun to participate<br />
and<br />
also full of proof underway</p>
<p>I joined long ago, I see former lives<br />
and you will too</p>
<p>Radha Soami</p>
<p>ps<br />
There is this thing always ignored about Satgurus<br />
when you see the more or less "Radiant Face", you also see and are "hypntysed" by the face of the Guru of your own Master , like Charan is bewitched akll the time by Sawan, and so on and so on<br />
You see Jaimal, You see so many guys <br />
when I say 'see' I mean Djyan<br />
which is difficult to explain<br />
It is majestic, one can only cry</p>
<p>I was initiated in 1965<br />
and there was no second without the feel I describe here<br />
It is a splendid Path</p>
<p>All the best and Cheers</p>
<p>I will stay anonymous which will permit me<br />
to tell some more in the future</p>Slayd commented on 'Separating numinous from supernatural'tag:typepad.com,2003:6a00d83451c0aa69e20192aacba1ad970d2013-06-06T08:28:20Z2013-06-06T16:56:32ZSlaydNo when i am looking at the moon i am just looking at the moon. Ain't you moon you are...<p>No when i am looking at the moon i am just looking at the moon.</p>
<p>Ain't you moon you are a man.</p>tucson commented on 'Separating numinous from supernatural'tag:typepad.com,2003:6a00d83451c0aa69e2019103026af8970c2013-06-06T06:26:09Z2013-06-06T16:56:32Ztucson The great mystery, so utterly incomprehensible, is only due to seeking the truth as an object. When you look at...<p>The great mystery, so utterly incomprehensible, is only due to seeking the truth as an object.</p>
<p>When you look at the moon you are the moon looking at itself.</p>Mike Williams commented on 'Separating numinous from supernatural'tag:typepad.com,2003:6a00d83451c0aa69e201901d00fc6a970b2013-06-05T05:05:21Z2013-06-05T18:20:37ZMike WilliamsHi cc and Sandra, Yes, COTC is in fact the "House of Pork". Our pen names should be tenderloins, rump...<p>Hi cc and Sandra,</p>
<p>Yes, COTC is in fact the "House of Pork".</p>
<p>Our pen names should be tenderloins, <br />
rump roast, pork bellies, pig ears<br />
and hamberger.</p>
<p>I would like a satsangi to explain<br />
to me how beef, with a little static<br />
electricity, can merge with God.</p>
<p>Well, if God eats us, we certainly will<br />
merge. But, then again, we may exit Him as poop.</p>
<p>So, it might not only be said God gets the last laugh, <br />
but God also gets the last crap.</p>
<p>Unless Something Else is involved we don't suspect.</p>
<p><a href="http://ffilms.org/malcolm-x-1992/" rel="nofollow">http://ffilms.org/malcolm-x-1992/</a><br />
</p>cc commented on 'Separating numinous from supernatural'tag:typepad.com,2003:6a00d83451c0aa69e201901cfe0613970b2013-06-04T22:46:19Z2013-06-05T03:28:11Zcc"Can a slice of prime rib ever be a self ? Not only a self, but a piece of meat...<p>"Can a slice of prime rib ever be a<br />
self ? Not only a self, but a piece<br />
of meat that can become one with God?"</p>
<p>Mike, it's quite well known that a slice of prime rib did, in fact, achieve self-realization before becoming one with God...that is, before God ate it. </p>Sandra commented on 'Separating numinous from supernatural'tag:typepad.com,2003:6a00d83451c0aa69e2019102f3b026970c2013-06-04T21:53:39Z2013-06-05T03:28:11ZSandraMike W. Inspiring post – as always – with an awakening effect on my “slab of meat” though very disillusioning...<p>Mike W.</p>
<p>Inspiring post – as always –<br />
with an awakening effect on my “slab of meat”<br />
though very disillusioning <br />
because anyhow it has to be taken into consideration that our self (our individual self) most probably doesn’t exist.<br />
So we really are in a bad situation, realizing our impermanence<br />
and that we are not so special that we will exist for ever and ever<br />
as we tend to believe<br />
due to our fear of death<br />
what remains as a compensative factor and a hope is<br />
what you said in one of your previous posts:<br />
“If we have no self , must not everything be our Self?</p>Mike Williams commented on 'Separating numinous from supernatural'tag:typepad.com,2003:6a00d83451c0aa69e201901cfce694970b2013-06-04T20:24:47Z2013-06-05T03:28:11ZMike WilliamsHi Roger, People can read Susan Blackmore and find out consciousness is temporal. Thought can never be a self. Yet,...<p>Hi Roger,<br />
People can read Susan Blackmore<br />
and find out consciousness is temporal.</p>
<p>Thought can never be a self. Yet, thought<br />
weaves itself into a WHO.</p>
<p>Thought dreams up a self, or WHO.</p>
<p>Our brain is a piece of meat.</p>
<p>Can a slice of prime rib ever be a<br />
self ? Not only a self, but a piece<br />
of meat that can become one with God ?</p>
<p>If there is a God and we do manage to<br />
get to Sach Kand, we may find out we<br />
are "whats for dinner".</p>
<p>Realization by the person he has no self<br />
strips one of all ego and vain persuits<br />
to wax a non existant self.</p>Roger commented on 'Separating numinous from supernatural'tag:typepad.com,2003:6a00d83451c0aa69e201901cfb2800970b2013-06-04T16:52:27Z2013-06-04T17:42:48ZRogerMike, You mentioned, "The Realization of No Self is Enlightenment" ---Could you expand(discuss in further detail) on what Realization is...<p>Mike,</p>
<p>You mentioned,</p>
<p>"The Realization of No Self is Enlightenment"</p>
<p>---Could you expand(discuss in further detail) on what Realization is meant by, in this usage?<br />
Thanks Roger</p>aristok commented on 'Separating numinous from supernatural'tag:typepad.com,2003:6a00d83451c0aa69e2019102e54a00970c2013-06-03T13:50:17Z2013-06-03T19:23:57ZaristokYes, thanks, for writing the above, cc...excellent !...Great video, too. I see, also, how religion has indeed 'hijacked' numinosity as...<p>Yes, thanks, for writing the above, cc...excellent !...Great video, too.<br />
I see, also, how religion has indeed 'hijacked' numinosity as one of the guys talking stated. <br />
Regards, aristok.</p>cc commented on 'Separating numinous from supernatural'tag:typepad.com,2003:6a00d83451c0aa69e201901ceb3ed8970b2013-06-03T05:07:30Z2013-06-03T19:23:57Zcc"Numinous" is one of those magic words. It can refer to the realm of religious notions (which is how I...<p>"Numinous" is one of those magic words. It can refer to the realm of religious notions (which is how I used it), or to any experience that undermines or overthrows the mind's notion of what is true and irrevocable. </p>Mike Williams commented on 'Separating numinous from supernatural'tag:typepad.com,2003:6a00d83451c0aa69e201901ceaebe9970b2013-06-03T04:21:45Z2013-06-03T19:23:57ZMike WilliamsThe Realization of No Self is Enlightenment It helps mankind, but not the poor person whom realizes it and is...<p>The Realization of No Self is Enlightenment</p>
<p>It helps mankind, but not the poor person<br />
whom realizes it and is afflicted with it.</p>
<p>This poor person has been stripped of Disneyland. <br />
Much of the motivation and<br />
meaning of life are stripped away.</p>
<p>Our brain is a slab of meat.</p>
<p>Yet, our brain wants to dine with God<br />
in Sach Kand. And, merge with the Creator.</p>
<p>Yes, we are a slab of meat, unless<br />
Something Else is involved we do not suspect.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.vatileaks.com/_blog/Vati_Leaks/post/Cross_of_Christ_‘invented’/" rel="nofollow">http://www.vatileaks.com/_blog/Vati_Leaks/post/Cross_of_Christ_‘invented’/</a><br />
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