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May 11, 2013

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spoken like a true surfer!!!

Blogger wrote: "If I knew exactly what was going to happen every time I see a large wave approaching and I position myself to catch it, bodyboarding wouldn't be nearly as much fun."

Of course I never knew exactly how a wave was going to break or how I would react to it successfully or unsuccessfully, but I had ridden so many waves that there wasn't much the ocean could throw at me that I hadn't seen before. I actually enjoyed surfing the most when I knew what was going to happen.

With this experience, this "foreknowledge", I had the ability to react to the myriad of circumstances, the uncertainty, with greater freedom, creativity and enjoyment.

I got to the point where surfing became unconscious, that is, I had no personal thoughts of what would happen next. There was no obstacle of "me" to overcome, no technique to be mindful of. There was just the wave and the riding of it and no one was there. It was beautiful.

There was the exception of the Tijuana Sloughs, a surf spot near the Mexican border. It was ominous, weird and foreboding. Waves came out of nowhere from different directions with no discernible pattern. You were far from shore and often couldn't see it. The sky could be gray and visibility fog-shrouded. It could be cold and the water polluted from the influx of the filthy Tijuana river which carried sewage from Mexico. The place was like haunted or something and when the waves were big it was just plain freaky, at least for little ol' me.

This was in the days before tow-in surfing onto 80 ft. waves. For me, a big wave was anything taller than I was and I never rode a wave bigger than 15 ft. or so in 25-30 years of surfing. Had I been suddenly cast into an 80 ft. wave situation, no doubt I would have been scared shitless and the freedom described above would not apply. Ego would be fully present in all its problematic glory, at least until I had done it a hundred times or so.

Yes, I can see how that works, and I can see how you're extending it out to the way you approach life as a whole.

That's the kind of faith I aim for too. It's something that allows me to *be*, if not always on the crest of a wave at least calm and positive, despite all the possible upsets and vagaries of life.

By 'aim for', I mean I have to recognise it's not always present. I've found it's related to being awake and alert. So sometimes I need to wake myself up!

So nice post - and no mention of "it's just something the brain does"! ;-)

"I can't predict with total accuracy what will happen next. This is what "faith" really is: being OK with that."

You can "predict with total accuracy" that you will cease to exist, and that's "okay" until death feels imminent.

"So nice post - and no mention of "it's just something the brain does"! ;-)"

Tom, you are just something the brain does.

You can "predict with total accuracy" that you will cease to exist, and that's "okay" until death feels imminent.

Is your deepest identity with the things that happen, or with your 'OK-ness' with whatever happens? Which means, do you identify with concerns, or with your lack of concern?

It's been said that a wise person identifies with absences rather than presences.

Can an absence die?

Tom, you are just something the brain does.

cc, I predicted that comment and I'm OK with it :-)

"Is your deepest identity with the things that happen, or with your 'OK-ness' with whatever happens?"

If I'm imperturbable it doesn't matter what happens, but if I identify with imperturbability, I'm successfully self-deluded.

"Which means, do you identify with concerns, or with your lack of concern?"

Which means I may be concerned with being unconcerned.

"It's been said that a wise person identifies with absences rather than presences"

I'm not so sure it's wise to identify with anything, but if it's unavoidable, it's wise to be adaptable and improvisational.

If I'm imperturbable it doesn't matter what happens, but if I identify with imperturbability, I'm successfully self-deluded.

Sure, that too.

Which means I may be concerned with being unconcerned.

Absolutely.

Words, eh? Extracting meaning from them often requires a bit of guesswork, teamed with constructive dialogue. The lesson I'm learning here is to be more charitable in my guessing, and not to assume I'm the only one with real understanding.

Am I warm?

When I'm not sure what you're saying I ask for clarification, and when I misunderstand what you've clearly stated, I stand corrected. But if I have to guess at what you're saying, I'll tell you I'm guessing.

"real understanding"

---real and unreal understanding is still going to be relative. I'm guessing.....

When I'm not sure what you're saying I ask for clarification, and when I misunderstand what you've clearly stated, I stand corrected. But if I have to guess at what you're saying, I'll tell you I'm guessing.

In that case you're completely off the hook, aren't you?!

In my own case though, I've become aware I sometimes believe I'm understanding when actually what's happening is that my preconceptions have been triggered. I think I can be a complete PITA when that happens! ;-)

---real and unreal understanding is still going to be relative. I'm guessing.....

Erm.

By 'real understanding' I'm pointing to the absence of anything obviously delusional. Of course that would be relative to my own delusions ;-)

Tom,

Good point. An 'understanding' is going to require the use of the mind or brain activity. It can be real and relative, and still be something good. Nothing wrong with your own delusions.

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