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April 05, 2013


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Good poignant words by Ebert, but he says amongst some of his good words:

"I know it is coming, and I do not fear it, because I believe there is nothing on the other side of death to fear. I hope to be spared as much pain as possible on the approach path. I was perfectly content before I was born, and I think of death as the same state."

--I am glad Ebert did not fear death but the reason he did not fear it is the exact reason why people do fear it...eternal non-existence. Rather ironic.

I think many people would trade a miserable death followed by an eternal peaceful afterlife in heaven, or maybe even reincarnation as an organ grinder's monkey, for a painless death followed by eternal non-existence.

However, sages throughout time have told us that we already eternally do not exist as self-existent objects, objects that exist only due to an error in perception whereby we objectify what is functioning/appearing and call it 'me'.

However, they say that there is eternal pure subjective Source which we really are. Since this Source is inconceivable they are reluctant to give it a name like "God" and stimulate all the conceptual baggage that comes with that term.

Mike Williams calls it "Something Else"...no matter what you conceive it to be, whatever you call it or attribute to it, it is something else. But it is.. Something Else.

I would suggest to those who fear death to give Something Else a try.

Thanks tucson,

Could you write something additional, on what is meant by an eternal pure subjective source? Would not the eternal be beyond the subjective?

Hi Rog,

I don't know what to say about it that wouldn't just be opening up more questions. "Eternal" "pure" "subjective" are just words, symbols, pointers. That's all. I think you know this.

The words imply 'this, here, now' which is unobjectivisable.

Two more babies stricken with herpes after ritual ultra-orthodox Jewish oral blood sucking circumcision in New York City
April 7, 2013
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Source: Daily Mail

Two more babies stricken with herpes after ritual ultra-orthodox Jewish oral blood sucking circumcision in New York City

•Since 2000 13 known cases of herpes have been contracted from the religious practice
•Two deaths and two babies suffering brain damage have resulted
•Department of health warns there being no safe way to perform the ritual that dates back more than 5,000 years
Two more infants have been infected with a deadly herpes virus in the last three months after undergoing a controversial religious oral circumcision in New York City.

The latest cases bring the count to 13 infants since 2000, two of which suffered brain damage and two died from the virus which can rapidly spread throughout its body.

The ultra-Orthodox Jewish practice of metzitzah b'peh requires a practitioner to orally suck the baby's penis to 'cleanse' the open wound following its circumcision, making them susceptible to the virus.

The department of health says one of the latest infants to contract the virus developed a fever and a lesion on its scrotum, seven days after the procedure. The boy later tested positive for HSV-1. That virus differs from HSV-2, the genital herpes, which is contracted during sexual intercourse.
'A herpes infection in a newborn baby has the risk of leading to severe illness and death,' Jay Varma, deputy commissioner for disease control at the New York City Department of Health and Mental Hygiene told ABC News.

Roger, 'beyond' in what direction? Is it the same direction as the 'Else' in 'Something Else'?

Thanks again tucson,

The pure subjectivity could be a whole mindedness, as opposed to a divided mind.

With whole mind, there could be the awareness of here, now and this, as you mentioned.

Roger, yes it seems so.

But even "this" is not "it". "It" is still something else. "It" is always something else.

"That" indicates some "thing" there
"This" indicates some "thing" here
But one and all "it" is, and neither.

Being no "thing" at all, "It" isn't an it.

That's the way I see it, so to speak.

Hi tucson and Roger,

Something Else comes from another
dimension (not an inner plane).

There is extremely little that can
be said about it.

It is contacted right here and right now
in whatever the persons condition.

It knows the future and can alter the
future in inconceivable ways. You can do
everything wrong and yet the results
turn out perfect. It can also correct
the wrong things you have done in the past
by making amends for you.

It is felt on top of the head. One
only need feel it there and all
else is accomplished automatically.

It is absolutely competent so one does

Something Else only has one modus operandi.
To help the world for the better.

It is not a religion, nor can it be learned
or taught.

The person yields to a higher power. But,
this is not the subconscious, nor gods.

Something Else is more then capable of taking a human being and making them eternal.

It does what it wishes. No god, or force
in the universe, can stand in its way.

All it needs is your permission to operate.

If there is anything wrong with you, it can fix it without you even being aware of it.

"It is not a religion, nor can it be learned
or taught."

LOL. Why mention it then?

"It" the something else is non-knowable.

A divided mind has a need to mention it using pointers, symbols, and words. There really is No Big Deal.

All pointing implies division. You have to heal the division, that's all, and that is done by exploring and evaporating needs and conditions. No pointing required?

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