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September 25, 2012


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This is what I love about being Jewish. The story about Jacob and the ladder teaches that it's OK to argue with God. So you could raise up your fists and call God an asshole and that wouldn't get you in trouble (with most people). Here is a great link on this topic from "Judaism for Dummies"


It reads in Part:

While the idea of a complete surrender to faith, a surrender to God, is harmonious with many Christian and Muslim faiths, it's much less comfortable for most Jews, who are traditionally taught to question in order to learn more deeply. Judaism tends to encourage individuals to explore their own personal relationship with God. For those people who are comfortable with the idea of surrender, God-wrestling is not an easy concept.

So please, anytime God is being an asshole, shout it from the rooftop.

Sound good to me - being able to argue with God. Pity I didn't know that when I was growing up. I think it would have helped a lot. It would have been a bit more one sided!!

btw Brian, so you DO believe in a God somewhere in some compartment of your brain - otherwise you wouldn't be giving out and ranting and raving about how unjust he/she is....... in your head, from your thread above!!! ;)


Marina, note that in my profane rant I said about God, "who might exist."

I don't believe in God.

I believe in the possibility of God.

Just as I believe in the possibility of anything. The possibility of some things existing is just very small.

Every morning, when I meditate, I say "God, if you exist, I'd like to know you." That doesn't strike me as a religious sentiment. It's an openness to reality.

But I have no idea how God, if it/he/she exists, might exist. So I no longer meditate with preconceptions, which feels much more honest.

Ok Brian.

I think I get you?!?!

Just to be sure sort of thing, cover all bases so to speak lol

"So I no longer meditate with preconceptions, which feels much more honest."
Sounds like a good way to go! No expectations.


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