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May 15, 2012

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I will just say something condescendingly "Zennish": All there is is pure awareness (another term for "Reality") and having problems is not a problem at all.

You don't like it? Tough shit.

"Wouldn't truly hardcore Zen simply say this is all bullshit?"

The concept of "truly hardcore Zen" is bullshit.

Isnt that the whole Zen thing? Bash your head around, do all the retreats / workshops / meditations, realise it is all bullshit and give it up. And thus become a Zen master... by not bothering with Zen.

Read the book. He doesn't really like zazen all the time, but likens it to doing it because it's good for you.

Well, for one thing, I’ve never seen Warner (or any other serious zen dude) say that meditation practice is not needed. Nor that a teacher is not necessary. If you read what they say that way, I would guess they did not mean it that way. Perhaps you ought to write them for clarification?

As for your question about "If it's that simple, if Zen is just everyday life, nothing extra added, then why is it necessary to engage in so much Zen practice", it so happens this was precisely the question - more or less - that puzzled the founder of the Soto school of Zen, Dogen, and made him go all the way to China to find an answer. And considering how he wrote massive amounts of texts about the virtues of Zazen practice, I suppose his answer is not "just fuck it". ;)

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