A few nights ago Stephen Colbert told a joke about God on The Colbert Report.
It was at the end of an interview with Father Jim Martin, author of "Between Heaven and Mirth: Why Joy, Humor, and Laughter Are at the Heart of the Spiritual Life."
The audience, along with Father Martin, laughed at the end of the joke. Me, I was more puzzled than amused. As soon as I heard the punchline I thought, "Wow. This is profound."
But I didn't know why.
Yes, the joke is funny. But it's the sort of humor that's funny because it's so true, and truth often isn't funny at all. So I wasn't sure what to make of it. Two days later, I still don't.
Here's my transcription of Colbert's joke:
Now, I'm not really a comedian. I don't really make jokes up all that often. I have one joke about God. I'd like to try it on you.
OK. So a guy commits suicide. And he goes to heaven, he gets to heaven.
And God greets him there, and the guy said, "I'm so surprised I'm here. First of all, I thought there was no God. Second of all, I thought if you killed yourself, you know, you were damned forever."
God said, "You know, that's a complicated issue. Everybody at least thinks about ending it, you know, killing themselves at some point." And God says, "Even I've thought of it."
The guy said, "Can I ask, why didn't you do it?"
And God said, "What if this is all there is?"
Think about it. Or, don't. Regardless, this is a great question.
Maybe the greatest question. The answer we come up with, consciously or unconsciously, has a huge impact on how we live life, how we feel about life, even whether we keep on living.
What if this is all there is?
Stephen Colbert is musical, and knows a lot about music. Almost certainly he's familiar with the 1960's song by Lieber and Stoller, "Is That All There Is?"
The lyrics as sung by Peggy Lee are powerful. For example...
And when I was 12 years old, my father took me to the circus, the greatest show on earth.
There were clowns and elephants and dancing bears
And a beautiful lady in pink tights flew high above our heads.
And as I sat there watching the marvelous spectacle
I had the feeling that something was missing.
I don't know what, but when it was over,
I said to myself, "Is that all there is to a circus?"
Is that all there is, is that all there is
If that's all there is my friends, then let's keep dancing
Let's break out the booze and have a ball
If that's all there is
...I know what you must be saying to yourselves.
If that's the way she feels about it why doesn't she just end it all?
Oh, no. Not me. I'm in no hurry for that final disappointment.
For I know just as well as I'm standing here talking to you,
when that final moment comes and I'm breathing my last breath, I'll be saying to myself,
Is that all there is, is that all there is
If that's all there is my friends, then let's keep dancing
Let's break out the booze and have a ball
If that's all there is
Not a bad philosophy of life, not bad at all, to break out the booze and have a ball. Have a listen.
beautiful.
Posted by: David Lane | November 11, 2011 at 11:25 PM
I thought people committed suicide because this is all there is.
Posted by: cc | November 12, 2011 at 08:35 AM
"What if this is all there is?"
and
"Is That All There Is?"
--Within duality, what exactly or absolutely is this and that, which is mentioned in the two questions?
Posted by: Roger | November 12, 2011 at 10:54 AM
To me it's funny to think of this (typically conceived to be) all powerful, all knowing god, who (I suppose, but most might not have thought) has all the same questions about his own existence as we have about ours.
cc, I don't think people kill themselves because 'this is all there is' but rather they hesitate and decide not to kill themselves because they are afraid that 'this is all there is', i.e., that suicide means irrevocable non-existence.
From my experience, when people truly believe this is all there is, they tend to cherish it pretty fervently. Though there may be a group in transition, losing faith in a spiritual realm, who are depressed by the damage to their worldview, who ask what the point is. (Before they have a chance to realize the point is to enjoy the very limited time we each have here.) It can be a real struggle for many people, and take years.
Roger, I'd say the "this" and "that" refer to the physical aspects of reality, since ending one's life puts one's existence firmly outside the physical realm (science says, no ghosts). When god repeats the line in heaven it must then be referring to that spiritual realm, and god is asking the question, 'is this spiritual realm really it? or is there a deeper realm I could escape to?'
Much like depressed people might take their own life to escape the woes of physical reality, we might imagine a bored god doing the same, when in hesitation their consciousness steps in and asks, "what if you're wrong about this afterlife thing"?
Sure god knows everything about me and you, but does he (she? it?) know how he got here?
(For the record I'm a strict physicalist concerning the mind-body problem.)
Does god know where god came from? Why a god and not 'not a god'? Can god make him/her/itself disappear? Could god fear his nonexistence the way we do? Is god capable of nonexistence? What kind of power does a sentient being have if they don't have the power to not exist? Sorry to rant.
Posted by: Cody Reisdorf | November 15, 2011 at 12:08 AM
To me it's funny to think of this (typically conceived to be) all powerful, all knowing god, who (I suppose, but most might not have thought) has all the same questions about his own existence as we have about ours.
cc, I don't think people kill themselves because 'this is all there is' but rather they hesitate and decide not to kill themselves because they are afraid that 'this is all there is', i.e., that suicide means irrevocable non-existence.
From my experience, when people truly believe this is all there is, they tend to cherish it pretty fervently. Though there may be a group in transition, losing faith in a spiritual realm, who are depressed by the damage to their worldview, who ask what the point is. (Before they have a chance to realize the point is to enjoy the very limited time we each have here.) It can be a real struggle for many people, and take years.
Roger, I'd say the "this" and "that" refer to the physical aspects of reality, since ending one's life puts one's existence firmly outside the physical realm (science says, no ghosts). When god repeats the line in heaven it must then be referring to that spiritual realm, and god is asking the question, 'is this spiritual realm really it? or is there a deeper realm I could escape to?'
Much like depressed people might take their own life to escape the woes of physical reality, we might imagine a bored god doing the same, when in hesitation their consciousness steps in and asks, "what if you're wrong about this afterlife thing"?
Sure god knows everything about me and you, but does he (she? it?) know how he got here?
(For the record I'm a strict physicalist concerning the mind-body problem.)
Does god know where god came from? Why a god and not 'not a god'? Can god make him/her/itself disappear? Could god fear his nonexistence the way we do? Is god capable of nonexistence? What kind of power does a sentient being have if they don't have the power to not exist? Sorry to rant.
Posted by: Cody Reisdorf | November 15, 2011 at 12:08 AM
Cody,
Yes, there was a bit of rant. But, no harm done.
You said,
"...I'd say the "this" and "that" refer to the physical aspects of reality, since ending one's life puts one's existence firmly outside the physical realm (science says, no ghosts)."
---yes, to the conceptualize aspects of dualistic reality. However, for those that are not interested in ending their life, what exactly/absolutely is the non-conceptual this and that? We really don't know what this and that is. That was my point. So, one can go through a complete life, no life ending needs, and still not know exactly what this and that is.
Posted by: Roger | November 15, 2011 at 09:57 AM