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April 21, 2011


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There is a problem with so called
internal progress. Such is usually made
by transformation of sexual energy.

Or, rather, not ohas, but moving the
sexually supressed energy to the brain.

Uaually via the spine. But, the fact is all
supressed energy finds its way to the brain.

This same sexually supressed energy can
cause insanity. The drug Prozac stops
this sexual energy from the brain.

The mental institutions are loaded with
schizophrenics. They see and hear things
that are not there.

Same with Radhasoamis. In Yogananda's
surat shabda group, they move he energy
up and down the spine before beginning
the shabda practice. The chakras have
their own sound and light, according
to theory. Radhasoamis, except for
Agra groups, are usually unaware they
are practising kundalini yoga.

The people whom can actually go inside
do not think its a big deal. They KNOW
it is not real and all manufactured by
the brain.

The question is, why do Gurus tell us
it is real ????

No sane person could believe it is real
for very long.

Yet, insane people in hospitals do believe
it is real.

That is why a good Guru is always nuts
and has a far off look in their eyes,
which are usually glazed.

Add religious rhetoric to explain
karma and rebirth and people will follow

The guru is a Madman.

The end result of meditation is being
one with the highest levels.

You can feel as if you are one with
your being.

But, this does not prove this oneness
will outlast the body. It does not
prove God and rebirth, nor heaven.

All these are dogmas the Guru has no
proof of himself.

That is why Faquir Chand was UNKNOWING.
That's also why Faquir called gurus criminals,
for telling people they know the answers
and have experienced them for themselves.

When they in fact have not.

There is 'going inside' if ones
personal mental creations are
considered real.

The problem is, anyone whom thinks
this is delusional. 'Going
inside' is a delusion.

Over many years and many groups
I asked many people about their
experiences 'inside'.

One very strange word kept coming
up. Believe. They almost all said the
same thing.

You must 'believe' it is real.


Mike, i tried to get you to explain what you mean by sexual fluids in the body and so on. You talk about raising the ojas to the brain (which is physically impossible) and about energies in the body, and then you talked about pranahuti, which is a supernatural phenomenon. In the next breath you criticise meditation and claim there is no such thing as "going inside" but basically say that it is possible to go inside but that such things a delusional.

Hi David,

Yes. the world of the occult
is filled with paradox.

Both the true and the untrue.

It comes down to a matter of perception.

Does one BELIEVE what what sees INSIDE
is real, or not ?

Since no hard scientific, or even logical reasons exist for the soul, Inner Planes,
Karma and rebirth, the matter hinges
totally on BELIEF.

Therefore, the believers BELIEVE the inner
worlds are real. They believe the Guru
will save them. They BELIEVE the occult

None of the things the BELIEVERS believe
can be verified.

Therefore every single time an exsatsangi
debates a believer, they must automatically

The satsangi can never win.



So, no debate is even possible.

Are you a believer or a non believer in meditation.

poonam, I'm obviously a believer, since I've meditated every day since 1970 -- 42 years.

It's nice to see Alan Watts quoted
instead of Suzuki and other quacks.

An interesting meditation is to imagine
the color yellow. Then track it back to its

See what happens when you try to consciously
visualize yellow in meditation.

There are over 30 places in your brain
you are conscious of. By visualizing blackness and peeping inside, you continually only go to one place.

If it doesn't work, why keep going
back ?

Do you return to a dry waterhole when
you are thirsty ?

Do you need to even meditate to see
for yourself that the self is an illusion ?

If there is a Positive Force, does it
want you to waste your time meditating ?

Meditation is the fertile ground for
sublimation of the self.

Meditation does not get rid of the self,
it continues the delusion.

The idea we have a self is the basis
of sin.

Is there anything in the world which can
be personalised ?

Without mistaken personalisation of
thought, can a self even exist ?

Can thought ever be personalised ?

Is there a WHO in your machine ?

Mike Williams aka Zakk knows his stuff lol.

Surely if you experience it, it is there...

I see a lot of words and analytical conversation, but where is the mystery?

You are what you believe, maybe?

Why can't there be a soul...

What if you are, in fact..... wrong?

On the 4th of June 1889 Albert Pike wrote a letter to the supreme councils of the Freemason illuminati:

"To you, Sovereign Grand Instructors General, we say this, that you may repeat it to the Brethren of the 32nd, 31st and 30th degrees: 'the Masonic Religion should be, by all of us initiates of the high degrees, maintained in the purity of the LUCIFERIAN Doctrine. If Lucifer were not god, would Adonay (Jesus)... calumniate (spread false and harmful statements about) him?...Yes Lucifer is God..."(Albert Pike, A.C. De La Rive, La Femme et l'Enfant dans la Franc-Maqonnene Universelle, page 588.)


The most interesting website. Incredible.
Pike was chief Freemason in America.

Vast amounts of Freemasons governed America.

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