Comments on Radha Soami Satsang Beas guru makes $254 millionTypePad2010-12-11T05:11:26ZBrian Hineshttps://hinessight.blogs.com/church_of_the_churchless/tag:typepad.com,2003:https://hinessight.blogs.com/church_of_the_churchless/2010/12/radha-soami-satsang-beas-guru-makes-250-million/comments/atom.xml/Sonya commented on 'Radha Soami Satsang Beas guru makes $254 million'tag:typepad.com,2003:6a00d83451c0aa69e202942fa8ab7e200c2022-05-03T02:15:35Z2022-05-03T03:50:12ZSonyaI don’t judge people based on how much or how little money they have. And, at 50, there’s not much...<p>I don’t judge people based on how much or how little money they have. And, at 50, there’s not much in this world I desire. Maybe another trip to Disney World, but that’s about it. 🙃</p>gspears commented on 'Radha Soami Satsang Beas guru makes $254 million'tag:typepad.com,2003:6a00d83451c0aa69e20278807ac063200d2022-05-02T05:23:48Z2022-05-02T05:23:48ZgspearsPeople seem upset that guruji has some money. I don't think guruji ever agreed to the life of an aesthetic,...<p>People seem upset that guruji has some money. I don't think guruji ever agreed to the life of an aesthetic, moreover, there seems to be lacking evidence that he is in possession of great wealth anyway. </p>
<p>But let's say guruji has great wealth. OK, that is not an issue...</p>
<p>Rather, Attachment to wealth is the issue. And if you hate someone for their great wealth - that is an issue.</p>
<p>if you love someone for their great wealth - THAT too is an issue.</p>
<p>If you think day and night how to get great wealth -- That is a big, big issue.</p>
<p>You get the idea, yes? I could go on with this list, but no need.</p>
<p>Poor does not mean you are spiritually qualified.</p>
<p>Rich does not make you spiritually dis-qualified.</p>
<p>I hope all this is reaching someone. </p>
<p>You are loved,<br />
_g<br />
</p>Blogger Brian commented on 'Radha Soami Satsang Beas guru makes $254 million'tag:typepad.com,2003:6a00d83451c0aa69e2022ad38fef0a200d2018-09-09T02:38:45Z2018-09-09T02:38:50ZBlogger Brianhttp://profile.typepad.com/brihinesRavi, you're entitled to your opinion. But it is an indisputable fact that RSSB is very much linked to the...<p>Ravi, you're entitled to your opinion. But it is an indisputable fact that RSSB is very much linked to the Dhillon family finances. This August 2018 CNBC TV 18 story is one of several that discuss the ties between RSSB initiates and the business dealings of Gurinder Singh Dhillon and his family. </p>
<p><a href="https://www.cnbctv18.com/views/the-devotion-of-the-singh-brothers-of-fortis-runs-deep-into-their-businesses-63575.htm" rel="nofollow">https://www.cnbctv18.com/views/the-devotion-of-the-singh-brothers-of-fortis-runs-deep-into-their-businesses-63575.htm</a></p>
<p>Excerpt:</p>
<p>"The Radha Soami Satsang Beas or RSSB spiritual organization really came to light in the last week of September 2015, when promoter and executive vice chairman of Fortis, Shivinder Singh decided to step down to serve the RSSB full time. He took up the position of non-Executive Vice Chariman at Fortis. His rationale was to give back to society.</p>
<p>Many of us furiously googled RSSB then. We wondered why the suave 40 year old billionaire entrepreneur was joining a religious sect full time only to realise the relationship it has with the Singh brothers and group companies ran longer and deeper.</p>
<p>An interesting example of this was in Feb 2014, when Religare Health Trust or RHT announced the purchase of the Mohali hospital property from RSSB. The transaction was for Rs 270 crore or $43.2 million, which the RSSB sect would receive for it.</p>
<p>Interestingly, the current CEO, executive director and board member of RHT Holdings is Gurpreet Singh Dhillon. As per the RHT website, he also serves as a Director on the board of two wholly owned subsidiaries of RHT. He was appointed CEO of RHT holdings at the age of 29, in 2013.</p>
<p>So, it seems as though Gurpreet Singh was CEO when the Mohali hospital was bought from RSSB in 2014. While his capabilities include experience in asset management, investments and advisory in real estate, his direct connection with RSSB cannot be ignored."</p>Ravi Pratap Singh commented on 'Radha Soami Satsang Beas guru makes $254 million'tag:typepad.com,2003:6a00d83451c0aa69e2022ad38fee0f200d2018-09-09T01:52:33Z2018-09-09T02:17:11ZRavi Pratap SinghAs an author of this blog, you talk like a complete IDIOT. Why are you linking the businesses of the...<p>As an author of this blog, you talk like a complete IDIOT.<br />
Why are you linking the businesses of the family with the spirituality of the Guru..??<br />
The Rssb board is a completely autonomous and independent organization. And the family's personal business deals have nothing to do with it.<br />
Please mind your language and facts before posting shit about a noble sect.</p>Baldev Singh commented on 'Radha Soami Satsang Beas guru makes $254 million'tag:typepad.com,2003:6a00d83451c0aa69e20224e036d014200d2018-05-03T11:33:23Z2018-05-03T17:32:09ZBaldev Singh Sir, the churches are better than you who respect their religion. Think where you stand Mr aruka please.<p>Sir, the churches are better than you who respect their religion. Think where you stand Mr aruka please.</p>aruka commented on 'Radha Soami Satsang Beas guru makes $254 million'tag:typepad.com,2003:6a00d83451c0aa69e201bb0a03a985970d2018-04-13T20:51:04Z2018-04-14T02:24:33ZarukaWhat does your churches make ?? ahhh... it pays to be a pope<p>What does your churches make ?? ahhh... it pays to be a pope</p>PAWAN commented on 'Radha Soami Satsang Beas guru makes $254 million'tag:typepad.com,2003:6a00d83451c0aa69e201b8d2e323a9970c2018-03-17T05:29:32Z2018-03-17T18:59:33ZPAWAN Dear Ankur search a SATGURU having full knowledge of this universe. How to get moksh from this universe and then...<p>Dear Ankur search a SATGURU having full knowledge of this universe. How to get moksh from this universe and then how to go to upper loks SAT LOK OR ABOVE. Such Satguru are available in Sanatan Dharm with whom these RSSB hate.</p>Ankur commented on 'Radha Soami Satsang Beas guru makes $254 million'tag:typepad.com,2003:6a00d83451c0aa69e201b7c9582e8d970b2018-03-14T12:32:24Z2018-03-14T22:47:25ZAnkurHey dear....whomsoever written this article.... For once i agree with you that rssb is fraud and nothing else. . Then...<p>Hey dear....whomsoever written this article....<br />
For once i agree with you that rssb is fraud and nothing else. .<br />
Then please you tell m the right way to love god and feel god and the way how i can see the god.....<br />
Reply must<br />
Ankurmittal0040@gmail.com</p>Vikram commented on 'Radha Soami Satsang Beas guru makes $254 million'tag:typepad.com,2003:6a00d83451c0aa69e201bb09d5b9f2970d2017-11-10T09:06:19Z2017-11-13T03:28:25ZVikramhttp://www.radhasoamimatrimony.comwww.radhasoamimatrimony.com Only For Radha Soami Bride & Groom Please Note:This community has no connection with RSSB.The only purpose of this...<p>www.radhasoamimatrimony.com Only For Radha Soami Bride & Groom Please Note:This community has no connection with RSSB.The only purpose of this community is to create a place wherein Radha Soami family's can find suitable match for there children's. We are not supposed to use it for any other reason.Not even to discuss satsang or teachings of RSSB Powered by : The Navbharat Group</p>pawan commented on 'Radha Soami Satsang Beas guru makes $254 million'tag:typepad.com,2003:6a00d83451c0aa69e201b8d2a9f24b970c2017-09-13T11:36:35Z2017-09-15T04:39:11ZpawanOur main guidance comes from Guru Granth Sahib. At no point any of the limits and conditions of any Indian...<p>Our main guidance comes from Guru Granth Sahib. At no point any of the limits and conditions of any Indian spiritual Text is violated by RSSB Gurus.</p>
<p><br />
strange bhuria jj. What is being stated their (BEAS) " VED AND SHASHTRA ARE FALSE". Ramayan and Geeta ji is false. Murti pooja is false. (Although God is every where but not in Murti as taught there). <br />
Ram and Karishna were false although they sing the bhajans of Meera ji in a taught sweet manner to attract innocent people. All is false but what is stated by Huzur Seth Shiv Dyal ji is correct who as per RSSB book version had always using Tobacco throughout his life which is an amal and what is stated above <br />
"'ÁMAL AHARI ATMA KABHUN NA PAYE PAR''<br />
<br />
</p>Bhuria commented on 'Radha Soami Satsang Beas guru makes $254 million'tag:typepad.com,2003:6a00d83451c0aa69e201b7c91cc1be970b2017-09-04T18:09:26Z2017-09-04T18:09:26ZBhuriaDear bloggers it is nice thatu r concerned. It is our sheer compulsion that we have to follow a guru...<p>Dear bloggers it is nice thatu r concerned. It is our sheer compulsion that we have to follow a guru as advised in whole religious text of India. Our main guidance comes from Guru Granth Sahib. At no point any of the limits and conditions of any Indian spiritual Text is violated by RSSB Gurus. Those who do not work hard or are not good students become drop outs and blame it on teachers. In past other gurus also had huge wealth. Would you like hard up Guru. Spiritual text says guru is the human reincarnation of God so wish the God to be extremely poor and you want to be supper rich. God bless you.</p>Amit commented on 'Radha Soami Satsang Beas guru makes $254 million'tag:typepad.com,2003:6a00d83451c0aa69e201b7c8fb432e970b2017-05-23T17:56:12Z2017-05-23T17:56:12ZAmitHey Brian, Just wondering why u started this blog?<p>Hey Brian,<br />
Just wondering why u started this blog?</p>Sanatan Panthi commented on 'Radha Soami Satsang Beas guru makes $254 million'tag:typepad.com,2003:6a00d83451c0aa69e201b7c8f4fc5a970b2017-05-05T07:50:30Z2017-05-06T01:09:16ZSanatan PanthiA sadguru cannot be a destruct-or. Provided that he has the power of Sadguru and full knowledge up to Satya...<p>A sadguru cannot be a destruct-or. Provided that he has the power of Sadguru and full knowledge up to Satya Purush, Satlok or above and not only upto Kaal Niranjan. </p>Lombardidipumperdonlnikl commented on 'Radha Soami Satsang Beas guru makes $254 million'tag:typepad.com,2003:6a00d83451c0aa69e201b8d26f5484970c2017-03-27T18:27:31Z2017-03-27T21:51:49ZLombardidipumperdonlniklRiti i think you need to meditate cause you dont.<p>Riti i think you need to meditate cause you dont.</p>Riti commented on 'Radha Soami Satsang Beas guru makes $254 million'tag:typepad.com,2003:6a00d83451c0aa69e201bb09875311970d2017-03-25T13:16:22Z2017-03-27T21:51:49ZRitiGuru ji is the king of whole world. He can do anything. You are talking about money he can create...<p>Guru ji is the king of whole world. He can do anything. You are talking about money he can create or destruct worlds. You are just a soul who has lost his path and i just suggest you to reflect why you are born, what are you doing and when you die no anyone can help you. So it is your choice to choose if you want god or not. </p>Kathleen commented on 'Radha Soami Satsang Beas guru makes $254 million'tag:typepad.com,2003:6a00d83451c0aa69e201b7c8de857b970b2017-03-09T14:22:23Z2017-03-10T04:30:27ZKathleen Brian, You are right in so many ways and knowing so, you are playing into God's hands. You chase away...<p>Brian,<br />
You are right in so many ways and knowing so, you are playing into God's hands.<br />
You chase away all those not ready to do the work INSIDE ones self to return to Our Source.<br />
The perfect living Masters all have their ways to filter out those not ready from those most willing to do what it takes to do the spiritual practice. It's all good.</p>
<p>Fear plays a big part in Love...fear of displeasing Whom we love that we should remain separate from the Lover/Beloved.</p>
<p>Gurinder Singh Dhillion is a businessman by his honest means before becoming the Guru of Beas via the Will left to Him. As was the previous Masters skilled in their professions, I don't question this skill. We all possess God giving gifts to impart to the world for the sake of fulfilling our destiny laid out before birth. Like yourself, you have gifts of trying to expose the secret life of One more powerful than yourself only because you haven't reached that level.</p>
<p>Like, Judus in Christ's life, you expose your own fear and weakness, but you are still loved irregardless. For who doesn't possess those traits except perfect spiritual Masters? If the Guru has become independently wealthy, I am grateful for there is a strong need for wealth to be in the hands of generous individuals. </p>
<p>Thankyou for your contribution.</p>akhar commented on 'Radha Soami Satsang Beas guru makes $254 million'tag:typepad.com,2003:6a00d83451c0aa69e201b7c8dbcb6d970b2017-03-02T14:17:01Z2017-03-04T01:19:52ZakharYou fail to realize how the church is funded and how it uses the funds, i dont want to blame...<p>You fail to realize how the church is funded and how it uses the funds, i dont want to blame anyone but truth is it hurts you to think if people start following another way to find god other than church. You are not only ignorant but in a sad state of flux. one who knows does not need beliefs, but i'll leave you to your sad state because you can hardly understand the path of the masters.</p>mosa commented on 'Radha Soami Satsang Beas guru makes $254 million'tag:typepad.com,2003:6a00d83451c0aa69e201b8d260538a970c2017-02-14T19:46:16Z2017-02-14T19:46:16Zmosahello to everybody here i m trying to get on the path and radashoami seem to be the best instead...<p>hello to everybody here i m trying to get on the path and radashoami seem to be the best instead as i understand this is not a religion i say it again its not a religion im 57 and looked all spiritual things magic also but if this is as promised is the real deal there are two things i want to say rssb is obviously paying and looking after followers, if gurinder has money is his bussines i mean he has no money that he hasnt earned so.......shabd is the best i tell u that</p>777 commented on 'Radha Soami Satsang Beas guru makes $254 million'tag:typepad.com,2003:6a00d83451c0aa69e201b7c8545f8d970b2016-05-06T17:54:13Z2016-05-07T01:48:18Z777Win-win spiritual business, . . Yes Neon Don't blame Him for the actual heatwave in India ! Or other other's...<p>Win-win spiritual business, . . Yes<br />
Neon<br />
Don't blame Him for the actual heatwave in India !<br />
Or other other's karma<br />
Following orders, He is just doing everything to spread this 'Word' for the willing;<br />
and His Master is in command and gives fore-knowledge only in the interest of Love</p>
<p>777</p>Neon commented on 'Radha Soami Satsang Beas guru makes $254 million'tag:typepad.com,2003:6a00d83451c0aa69e201b7c853e761970b2016-05-06T04:50:47Z2016-05-07T01:48:18ZNeonYes 777, even at $1 it's still business. And Brian, have you heard the new news about the Ranbaxy issue?...<p>Yes 777, even at $1 it's still business. And Brian, have you heard the new news about the Ranbaxy issue? Seems god's not too far-looking when he makes decisions!</p>777 commented on 'Radha Soami Satsang Beas guru makes $254 million'tag:typepad.com,2003:6a00d83451c0aa69e201b8d1dd9210970c2016-05-06T00:56:36Z2016-05-06T02:55:49Z777Rssb books even many pages cost still . . 4 $ Is that business ? 777 -<p>Rssb books even many pages cost still . . 4 $</p>
<p>Is that business ?</p>
<p>777</p>
<p>-<br />
</p>pawan commented on 'Radha Soami Satsang Beas guru makes $254 million'tag:typepad.com,2003:6a00d83451c0aa69e201b7c853211b970b2016-05-05T09:49:21Z2016-05-05T22:37:47ZpawanRaj, progressed. Ok. but u know how progressed By destroying the great traditions of Sanatan Panth which is not known...<p>Raj, progressed. Ok. but u know how progressed By destroying the great traditions of Sanatan Panth which is not known the persons like you and the others. What is your charity. A business man cannot be a saint. You don't know even A B C of Sanatan Panth. As stated above by a Sanatan Panthi, your knowledge is upto Kaal Niranjan only and not upto SATPURUSH. For G.Gill, Please note what Kabir says "'ÁMAL AHARI ATMA KABHUN NA PAYE PAR''. Nothing more than it can be stated for you all.</p>Neon commented on 'Radha Soami Satsang Beas guru makes $254 million'tag:typepad.com,2003:6a00d83451c0aa69e201bb08f35be2970d2016-05-01T19:15:16Z2016-05-03T03:40:26ZNeonRaj, wow. This is like watching those two pastors justifying their private jet. Are RSSB here to help poor people...<p>Raj, wow. This is like watching those two pastors justifying their private jet. Are RSSB here to help poor people or to take us back? If I recall correctly, even in their satsangs they say that saints aren't here to make the world a better place. RSSB don't even need centers, what's the point of expanding when the guru can't even take care of the ones that have been initiated? They are building an empire. New centers are popping up everywhere. Its so goddamned obvious that this is all business related. Can even tell me why out of 7 billion people, god always comes through the same family? </p>Raj commented on 'Radha Soami Satsang Beas guru makes $254 million'tag:typepad.com,2003:6a00d83451c0aa69e201b8d1d9688c970c2016-05-01T17:46:20Z2016-05-01T18:13:15ZRaj Radha soami guru is paying for 3 hospitals and for centres all over the world.maybe small charities that you hold...<p>Radha soami guru is paying for 3 hospitals and for centres all over the world.maybe small charities that you hold God did not want to go worldwide if the Lord wanted you to be feeding millions,treating millions in hospitals like Radha soami. Radha soami been Growing for last 150 years. The Lord must be happy because atleast the master is helping people with the correct teachings of life as well as helping the poor in India. Are you jealous because unlike otha religions in India Radha soami has progressed. Every religion needs money and looks like millions of people are benefiting from money for once. We don't have gold domes like Catholic and Sikh temples so looks like the Lord is happy for Radha soami to grow. Without money these days u can't live and Radha soami makes millions live in the will of the Lord thru this money. Who said the king of kings have to live always come and live like begger. It's the lords world we have laws the Babarian days are over so let the gurus live in comfort for once like a lot of the world! The master is helping millions it's unfortunate your charity temple was stolen but the Lord ordained u too lose and not Radha soami because maybe u r insignificant to the world and he is a world changer. Maybe u wud like to pay for all the centres,hospitals and food even non Radha soamis are eating. We feed anyone this is why Radha soami Excells! It's the will of the Lord. Life is fair like u wrote so the masters doing something right in the law of cause and effect. </p>G Gill commented on 'Radha Soami Satsang Beas guru makes $254 million'tag:typepad.com,2003:6a00d83451c0aa69e201b7c7bd0d7c970b2015-08-10T23:57:55Z2015-08-11T21:33:39ZG GillFirst of all if you are that open, please stop "moderating" people's comments, what are you afraid of? Anyways, I...<p>First of all if you are that open, please stop "moderating" people's comments, what are you afraid of? Anyways, I am sure you have your story to what you do and why. I find this old article fascinating and written with less than critical facts. Here are some facts for you: </p>
<p>1) Malvinder was son of Parvinder singh, who was CEO of Ranbaxy and a son of the founder of Bhai Mohan Sing, a money lender who cam from Pakistan to India. He made a fortune and passed on the wealth down his family line that made Malvinder rich, and it wasn't his connection to Radha soami guru, there was no cheque written o Malvir by the Radha soami guru.</p>
<p>2) About Guru's son, please check the resume and experience and current position of Gurpreet Dhillon, he is the son of beas guru. He has secured a place and position for himself as a CEO of the Religare company. How many CEO's do you know who make good salary and have investments in place. </p>
<p>Yes, Gurpreet and Malvir are second cousins, do you know any one else who are cousins and have some common business interests? </p>
<p>Do you have any trail showing donation money from Radha Soami organization made it's way to Malvir or Gurpreet? If not, rest is all commentary and guru hasn't used a single dollar from his disciples donations for any personal gain for himself or his family.</p>
<p>Next time, plea post the context, details and facts together, rather than twisting facts from your own lens only!!<br />
</p>Nvneet commented on 'Radha Soami Satsang Beas guru makes $254 million'tag:typepad.com,2003:6a00d83451c0aa69e201bb084df358970d2015-07-06T09:00:44Z2015-07-07T02:53:08ZNvneetYes we r the Haters !! But we r criticising The working management f Dera ,have u Ever been to...<p>Yes we r the Haters !! But we r criticising <br />
The working management f Dera ,have u <br />
Ever been to someone's home in Dera<br />
Those people r not even allowing <br />
Common sangat to sit in their cars upto parking <br />
For sat sang . Wt they r learning and putting <br />
Impression on us.<br />
I hv Olso taken naamdaan nd saw soo many satsngis<br />
Ruining the name f Baba G. <br />
WHAT ABOUT THOSE PEOPLE .they r not the <br />
Real haters than these criticisers ?? </p>Nvneet commented on 'Radha Soami Satsang Beas guru makes $254 million'tag:typepad.com,2003:6a00d83451c0aa69e201b7c7a9dd8b970b2015-07-06T08:54:55Z2015-07-07T02:53:08ZNvneetIt's totally money laundering place .I know the Person who is dealing with purchase Of land for Dera ,he is...<p>It's totally money laundering place .I know the <br />
Person who is dealing with purchase <br />
Of land for Dera ,he is now millionaire ,travelling<br />
In Mercedes ,personally he was belonging to <br />
Middle class family now enjoying the luxurious <br />
Status ,building nd selling flats nearby Dera in Rayya<br />
.He is purchasing lands for Dera nd no doubt <br />
Making money for him Olso. Nobody dare to <br />
Rise ques against his people because <br />
They ol r BULLSHIT PEOPLE </p>sanatan panthi commented on 'Radha Soami Satsang Beas guru makes $254 million'tag:typepad.com,2003:6a00d83451c0aa69e201bb083bf7e0970d2015-06-03T12:25:44Z2015-06-04T15:57:23Zsanatan panthiIt is called safed jhooth. It is being done at the end of own people not for other. Go Amarnath...<p>It is called safed jhooth. It is being done at the end of own people not for other. Go Amarnath Yatra and see what is medical camp, what is free langers and seva. </p>Shreya commented on 'Radha Soami Satsang Beas guru makes $254 million'tag:typepad.com,2003:6a00d83451c0aa69e201bb083be974970d2015-06-03T09:55:22Z2015-06-04T15:57:23ZShreyaCheck the link for top 10 richest Indian http://www.constructionweekonline.com/article-9224-top-10-richest-indians-in-the-gcc/10/<p>Check the link for top 10 richest Indian <a href="http://www.constructionweekonline.com/article-9224-top-10-richest-indians-in-the-gcc/10/" rel="nofollow">http://www.constructionweekonline.com/article-9224-top-10-richest-indians-in-the-gcc/10/</a><br />
</p>Abhi commented on 'Radha Soami Satsang Beas guru makes $254 million'tag:typepad.com,2003:6a00d83451c0aa69e201b8d120cf35970c2015-06-02T16:31:25Z2015-06-03T03:15:05ZAbhiHey haters listen ! Are you giving poor free food ? Free medical checkups ? Are you giving poor free...<p>Hey haters listen !<br />
Are you giving poor free food ? Free medical checkups ? Are you giving poor free medical checkups ? He is holding big shares thats all you ? Right , he has donated all his wealth to the trust.If you can't believe in things stop criticising... He ask people not to eat non veg not to involve in wrong deeds and non alcoholism , is that wrong ? Haters ! Get well soon....you people cant even serve a single perrson he serves thousand ! </p>sanatan panthi commented on 'Radha Soami Satsang Beas guru makes $254 million'tag:typepad.com,2003:6a00d83451c0aa69e201bb083477d4970d2015-05-26T12:33:14Z2015-05-27T19:36:52Zsanatan panthito @unknown: It is not a matter that a Shish has a Guru and should not go to temple as...<p>to @unknown: It is not a matter that a Shish has a Guru and should not go to temple as stated by Mr unknown. Your knowledge is very little if sargun is ther than nirgun is there without sargun nirgun cannot be and without nirgun sargun can't be. Actually the knowledge of RSSB is limited upto a level (KAAL only).</p>One Initiated commented on 'Radha Soami Satsang Beas guru makes $254 million'tag:typepad.com,2003:6a00d83451c0aa69e201b8d11571a2970c2015-05-17T17:52:20Z2015-05-18T05:03:00ZOne Initiatedhttp://profile.typepad.com/oneinitiated@Juan, Seeing your comment only after so long, thus replying late: I totally agree to what you said that what...<p>@Juan,</p>
<p>Seeing your comment only after so long, thus replying late:</p>
<p>I totally agree to what you said that what Maharaj Charan Singh Ji used to say.<br />
I was a very small kid when He passed away and I did remember visiting Beas on His departure, I love Him so very much.</p>
<p>I also like one of the statement of Maharaj Ji's, as repeated by 777 on various occasions:</p>
<p>"Santmat: Examples works but prescription"</p>
<p>If we would really want someone to know how great The Path is, there has to be a justifiable example being delivered with our love filled behaviour towards everyone and everything.<br />
It can not be crafted, but has to come from within. Mostly comes with tears (of love).</p>
<p>Of course I really like when she does go to Satsang with me especially whenever it's Babaji's Satsang. But what I meant with "I am all happy with it" was that even if at anytime she decides not to go, I don't feel otherwise.</p>
<p>oh yes, I agree anyone can become a guru of a worldly activity by practice but this doesn't stand exactly true for the Spiritual Path.<br />
I believe the True Masters are the beings belonging to the highest realms,<br />
and in a lifetime if a disciple even be able to reach Astral, it'd just be marvellous.</p>
<p><br />
@777</p>
<p>Thanks so much for sharing your such awesome inner experiences from time to time.<br />
These all your comments are such invaluable precious assets for many struggling kids on The Path.<br />
And thanks Brian for making it possible to have all this amazing content in the form of posts/comments from so many authors being always available to millions of readers.</p>
<p><br />
Lots and lots of love to all of you.<br />
may the Master showers HIS "Amazing Grace" on every single being!<br />
</p>777 commented on 'Radha Soami Satsang Beas guru makes $254 million'tag:typepad.com,2003:6a00d83451c0aa69e201bb082facc7970d2015-05-17T08:59:56Z2015-05-18T05:03:00Z777* I think the slanderers are not here anymore Concerning moneys : Look to these beautiful new BIG Satsang Ghars...<p>*</p>
<p>I think the slanderers are not here anymore</p>
<p>Concerning moneys :<br />
Look to these beautiful new BIG Satsang Ghars all around the world<br />
I don't think Grinder uses one penny for Himself<br />
and preparing for many souls to come<br />
when the climate starts hurting<br />
Also<br />
Instead of giving Darshan all over the world, . . He could * if He so wanted*,<br />
make fun like the rich of this planet are doing, . . but He takes care of His sheep all the time</p>
<p>For myself and my wife, we don't need such arguments because we both<br />
see Gurinder IN & OUT with a giant Halo of lights around Him<br />
what we were used to with beautiful Charan Ji MaharaJI</p>
<p>These Satgurus have all a specific vibration / emanation<br />
andn when CharanJI was like a Super Charismatic King</p>
<p>Gurinder emanates just PURENESS and HONESTY like as if HE never did a sin :-)</p>
<p>777</p>
<p><br />
<br />
</p>rupaliraturi@sify.com commented on 'Radha Soami Satsang Beas guru makes $254 million'tag:typepad.com,2003:6a00d83451c0aa69e201bb082fa233970d2015-05-17T05:45:23Z2015-05-18T05:03:00Zrupaliraturi@sify.comPlease ask same question to baba ji direct on his face in rssb punjab<p>Please ask same question to baba ji direct on his face in rssb punjab </p>buol commented on 'Radha Soami Satsang Beas guru makes $254 million'tag:typepad.com,2003:6a00d83451c0aa69e201b7c773b4a9970b2015-04-06T22:30:06Z2015-04-07T02:07:19ZbuolUnkown you are not meditating enough that is why your anger still rages around<p>Unkown you are not meditating enough that is why your anger still rages around</p> unknown.. commented on 'Radha Soami Satsang Beas guru makes $254 million'tag:typepad.com,2003:6a00d83451c0aa69e201b8d0fd3923970c2015-04-06T20:44:57Z2015-04-07T02:07:19Z unknown..this topic is not required ny attention because this is false statement that" RSSB is not true " all RSSb...<p>this topic is not required ny attention because this is false statement that" RSSB is not true " all RSSb satsangi is knows that their guru is not cheating them m also from rssb community and we know tht this is a contrAversial topic and we dont have to prove anythig to anyone , all the bad things which are wrote above is truly a BULLSHIT.. and does not require.. any kind of attention those people who wrote all the things which reflect bad impression on RSSb they are siply immature and dont know anything about RSSb so its my REQUEST TO EVRYONE IF U DONT BELIVE IN RSSB THEN U DONT HAVE ANY RIGHT TO SAY ANYTHING WHTHER IT IS GOOD OR BAD . AND ALL THE DEVOTEE OF RSSB I.DONT HAVE TO PROVE ANY THING... TO URS because no one in this earth is able to change ur mentality WE JUST HOPE THAT OUR SATGURU WILL give u MATURITY.. (sadhbudhi) </p>Juan commented on 'Radha Soami Satsang Beas guru makes $254 million'tag:typepad.com,2003:6a00d83451c0aa69e201b8d0cafb9b970c2015-01-29T15:47:40Z2015-01-30T01:19:26ZJuanI am from India and I've been initiated by Babaji and my wife doesn't believe in the RSSB philosophy and...<p>I am from India and I've been initiated by Babaji and my wife doesn't believe in the RSSB philosophy and I am all happy with it. I never ask her to attend discourses with me. </p>
<p>…. According to the teachings of Maharaj Charan Singh the purpose of the Satsangi is two fold, First, to help ourselves on the path and Second, to help others to come on the path, so sooner or later in a satsangi family, a non-satsangi has to be a satsangi to live a peaceful life, but of course there are always exceptions.</p>
<p>We have been having Gurus since our birth. Mother, Father, School Teachers, College Professors, Senior Colleagues... all of them have been our Guru to let us learn the things needed to progress in the physical world, because they all were experienced in things which we wanted to learn. The very principle applies to spiritual journey. </p>
<p>…. True, but the only difference in learning from other than spiritual gurus is that ultimately in this lifetime, one can complete the teachings and become a teacher, mother, father or college professor, but under the guidance of a spiritual Guru, one can never complete the learning so not permitted to and/or trained enough/ fit enough to practise as a Guru in this lifetime, until and unless he or she is not blessed by the Guru and/or hails from the Gurus family. <br />
</p>One Initiated commented on 'Radha Soami Satsang Beas guru makes $254 million'tag:typepad.com,2003:6a00d83451c0aa69e201bb07e28a26970d2015-01-26T04:51:00Z2015-01-27T03:41:53ZOne Initiated@unknown One thing for sure is, he needs to understand what you like to and love to do. Everyone should...<p>@unknown</p>
<p>One thing for sure is,<br />
he needs to understand what you like to and love to do.<br />
Everyone should be very open to it in fact.<br />
If someone can not go to a temple with you, <br />
just because he follows a Guru,<br />
and especially that going to temple will give you happiness,<br />
he surely needs to grow up there and take things maturely.</p>
<p>I am from India and I've been initiated by Babaji <br />
and my wife doesn't believe in the RSSB philosophy and I am all happy with it.<br />
I never ask her to attend discourses with me.<br />
She occasionally does go along with me especially to have my company and the outing for a few hours ;)</p>
<p>She loves to go to temples and I have been visiting temples with her.<br />
Some temples are really beautiful and very calm places.<br />
We go out to temples and gurudwaras and we always have great time.<br />
I am not presenting myself an example (will never do, thus anon.) <br />
But you can surely tell him about such practical approach and explain this comment as example.<br />
And also tell him that visiting temples and other religious/spiritual places is a good thing and not at all being told by RSSB to not to visit.<br />
The harmony and peace at home is the first thing everyone should strive for.</p>
<p>The next thing:</p>
<p>Whether Guru is required or not ?<br />
Well, I would say that you both should respect each others' views on it.<br />
If he believes in his Guru, let him be happy with that, and you shouldn't force him to leave this path.<br />
If you do not believe in Guru, you both should be happy with it, and he shouldn't try to force you at all to follow the path.</p>
<p>My opinion on the subject:<br />
(I do not impose this opinion on my wife.)<br />
Yes, surely Guru is required to make a true spiritual progress.<br />
We have been having Gurus since our birth.<br />
Mother, Father, School Teachers, College Professors, Senior Colleagues... all of them have been our Guru to let us learn the things needed to progress in the physical world, because they all were experienced in things which we wanted to learn.<br />
The very principle applies to spiritual journey.</p>
<p><br />
Wish you both a very happy marriage and lots of love and harmony :)<br />
God bless you!</p>
<p><br />
~<br />
OI</p>777 commented on 'Radha Soami Satsang Beas guru makes $254 million'tag:typepad.com,2003:6a00d83451c0aa69e201b8d0c8083c970c2015-01-25T17:47:20Z2015-01-26T04:07:43Z777Unknown If he is a rssb satsangi he can freely enter any temple but perhaps he felt unconfortable. Myself I...<p>Unknown<br />
If he is a rssb satsangi he can freely enter any temple<br />
but perhaps he felt unconfortable.</p>
<p>Myself I was sitting in some houses of devotian for doing some relaxation<br />
but hara krishna with their noise<br />
nor new borns cristians and jehova witness i wouldn't do :)</p>
<p>If He is not nice to you , don(t marry him :)<br />
but I know that might be difficult with arranged marriages<br />
Seems a father with 4 daughters will be bankrupt for hindus<br />
but not for muslims ??</p>
<p>Only gurus who can prove they are God, , , are God, ( to the person they give that proof )<br />
Everything else is at best Hope & Faith with 99% fake gurus around,</p>
<p>But you can delete gurus who ask money or make advertising and are unable to provide substantial happiness</p>
<p>I wish you a beautiful mariage<br />
777</p>
<p><br />
</p>unknown commented on 'Radha Soami Satsang Beas guru makes $254 million'tag:typepad.com,2003:6a00d83451c0aa69e201b7c73e696b970b2015-01-25T13:57:00Z2015-01-26T04:07:43ZunknownI am from india and and going to marry a person who belong to satsang community..he never replies to my...<p>I am from india and and going to marry a person who belong to satsang community..he never replies to my questions like are your guru is equal to a god? Is your community a different religion.once he denied to enter into a temple ..will it make him less satsangi?</p>
<p>Why a person need a guru doesn't he have his own mind and think rationally..</p>tucson commented on 'Radha Soami Satsang Beas guru makes $254 million'tag:typepad.com,2003:6a00d83451c0aa69e201a73e1078b4970d2014-09-06T06:10:23Z2014-09-06T15:43:02Ztucson"your just lucky our babji tells us not to do anything" --So, what would you do nirmala? Cut off the...<p>"your just lucky our babji tells us not to do anything"</p>
<p>--So, what would you do nirmala? Cut off the head of the blog host if your babaji said to do something? Would you?</p>Blogger Brian commented on 'Radha Soami Satsang Beas guru makes $254 million'tag:typepad.com,2003:6a00d83451c0aa69e201b8d060111c970c2014-08-30T23:01:12Z2014-08-30T23:01:14ZBlogger Brianhttp://profile.typepad.com/brihinesnirmula, if you don't believe what is said in this post, you should present your reasons for why it is...<p>nirmula, if you don't believe what is said in this post, you should present your reasons for why it is wrong. What evidence do you have that the guru didn't make $250 million?</p>nirmula commented on 'Radha Soami Satsang Beas guru makes $254 million'tag:typepad.com,2003:6a00d83451c0aa69e201b8d060044b970c2014-08-30T20:33:14Z2014-08-30T21:38:15ZnirmulaI cant believe what your saying how dare you your just lucky our babji tells us not to do anything<p>I cant believe what your saying how dare you your just lucky our babji tells us not to do anything </p>prince commented on 'Radha Soami Satsang Beas guru makes $254 million'tag:typepad.com,2003:6a00d83451c0aa69e201a3fd3a27af970b2014-07-27T08:40:20Z2014-07-28T03:02:03ZprinceI m agree with u bro.' Babaji is a lord for us<p>I m agree with u bro.' Babaji is a lord for us</p>Gagan deep singh commented on 'Radha Soami Satsang Beas guru makes $254 million'tag:typepad.com,2003:6a00d83451c0aa69e201a3fd34e95b970b2014-07-19T03:12:24Z2014-07-19T16:58:41ZGagan deep singhRssb is not world bank or brisc bank who can provide full facility to world poors the organize as much...<p>Rssb is not world bank or brisc bank who can provide full facility to world poors the organize as much they can do in India and other country's for food and medicens.all are well come in rssb.</p>Gagan deep singh commented on 'Radha Soami Satsang Beas guru makes $254 million'tag:typepad.com,2003:6a00d83451c0aa69e201a73deffb83970d2014-07-19T03:04:32Z2014-07-19T16:58:41ZGagan deep singhI think RSSB much better then other people fighting in Islam people fighting for partiality in UK USA even Australia...<p>I think RSSB much better then other people fighting in Islam people fighting for partiality in UK USA even Australia even in Hindu and Sikh they fighting each other but here everybody cones no body fight for religion and black white people.<br />
I m asking that people who are blaming how many people you feed in one roof food and how many people you say we all are one not diffrent . If running hospitals free of coast for poor people is wrong then what you will say right or wrong. People say go and do charity in Africa in India also have so many poors. The also comes in rssb.</p>Nick commented on 'Radha Soami Satsang Beas guru makes $254 million'tag:typepad.com,2003:6a00d83451c0aa69e201a5117b98fb970c2014-03-04T04:43:07Z2014-03-04T21:27:53ZNickHere's another link for the hugging saint http://brontebaxter.wordpress.com/blowing-the-whistle-chpt-9-amma-the-mother-saint-hugging-away-your-personhood/<p>Here's another link for the hugging saint</p>
<p><a href="http://brontebaxter.wordpress.com/blowing-the-whistle-chpt-9-amma-the-mother-saint-hugging-away-your-personhood/" rel="nofollow">http://brontebaxter.wordpress.com/blowing-the-whistle-chpt-9-amma-the-mother-saint-hugging-away-your-personhood/</a></p>Nick commented on 'Radha Soami Satsang Beas guru makes $254 million'tag:typepad.com,2003:6a00d83451c0aa69e201a5117b982b970c2014-03-04T04:35:02Z2014-03-04T21:27:53ZNickHere's the latest scandal to rock the spiritual world, has anyone heard of the hugging Amma? Well, here's a book...<p>Here's the latest scandal to rock the spiritual world, has anyone heard of the hugging Amma? Well, here's a book published by her PA which talks about what happens behind closed doors in hugging Amma's ashram</p>
<p><a href="http://www.mumbaimirror.com/others/sunday-read/In-the-grip-of-a-hug/articleshow/30868702.cms" rel="nofollow">http://www.mumbaimirror.com/others/sunday-read/In-the-grip-of-a-hug/articleshow/30868702.cms</a></p>june schlebusch commented on 'Radha Soami Satsang Beas guru makes $254 million'tag:typepad.com,2003:6a00d83451c0aa69e201a5104015a8970c2014-01-03T04:29:46Z2014-01-03T17:51:16Zjune schlebuschFr simon Nazerth this is terrible. So sorry. Can't someone help.? At least some consolation father I am no longer...<p>Fr simon Nazerth this is terrible. So sorry. Can't someone help.? At least some consolation father I am no longer involved. One more soul has been saved. Peace.</p>the9thGate commented on 'Radha Soami Satsang Beas guru makes $254 million'tag:typepad.com,2003:6a00d83451c0aa69e2019b002f3d1a970c2013-10-21T11:31:24Z2013-10-21T17:50:03Zthe9thGateTo Gurmit Singh...Gurinder is too stealth to ever get caught out or exposed but it would be interesting to see...<p>To Gurmit Singh...Gurinder is too stealth to ever get caught out or exposed but it would be interesting to see what he'd be exposed for, were that to happen</p>Gurmit Singh commented on 'Radha Soami Satsang Beas guru makes $254 million'tag:typepad.com,2003:6a00d83451c0aa69e2019b002a1bfc970c2013-10-20T11:54:26Z2013-10-21T03:07:21ZGurmit SinghWeheguru will expose this crook Gurinder! And it will happen soon! The radha soamis will then have nowhere to run...<p>Weheguru will expose this crook Gurinder! And it will happen soon!<br />
The radha soamis will then have nowhere to run & hide!</p>the9thGate commented on 'Radha Soami Satsang Beas guru makes $254 million'tag:typepad.com,2003:6a00d83451c0aa69e2019aff34a773970b2013-09-05T16:03:26Z2013-09-05T17:08:56Zthe9thGateTara:- so nice to read you again. I can't seem to escape delusion. I delude myself sometimes so I can...<p>Tara:- so nice to read you again. I can't seem to escape delusion. I delude myself sometimes so I can get through my day. RSSB is somebody else's grand delusion....my own personal delusions give me more solace than Gurinder's so I dwell on them now instead of his dogma and that of his predecessors. </p>rags commented on 'Radha Soami Satsang Beas guru makes $254 million'tag:typepad.com,2003:6a00d83451c0aa69e2019aff203623970b2013-09-01T16:57:21Z2013-09-02T02:38:08ZragsHa ha ha. This is really entertaining. To both followers and non-followers, If only we had put such energy in...<p>Ha ha ha.<br />
This is really entertaining. <br />
To both followers and non-followers,<br />
If only we had put such energy in getting something fruitful, world would have been a bit better place to live. </p>Ravi M commented on 'Radha Soami Satsang Beas guru makes $254 million'tag:typepad.com,2003:6a00d83451c0aa69e20192aaa4a37c970d2013-06-02T17:44:55Z2013-06-03T02:50:14ZRavi MReligare Enterprises remains then primary vehicle for which Radha Swami launders its funds.<p>Religare Enterprises remains then primary vehicle for which Radha Swami launders its funds. </p>Fr.simon Nazareth commented on 'Radha Soami Satsang Beas guru makes $254 million'tag:typepad.com,2003:6a00d83451c0aa69e2017ee890df8f970d2013-02-17T12:07:37Z2013-02-18T03:39:39ZFr.simon Nazarethi have read lots of comments about the radha saomi beas,and i am no one to judge.All i want to...<p>i have read lots of comments about the radha saomi beas,and i am no one to judge.All i want to inform my readers is that i am a catholic priest working for 30 years for the poor and especially the drop outs.WE are running a centre at raipur under the name of ST.vincent pallotti technical training centre for the past 25 years.Since three years i had given this centre to on MR.Sudama kundani to run it on my behalf as he deals with autos under the name of GURU VEER AUTO UNIVERSE.Now after 3 years he is not returning the centre back to us and has even dragged us to court knowing well that such matters will linger long.I trusted him because he went for satsang and believed him to be truthful but i realised that he is devil in god's clothing.He is sucking and living on the poor and depriving them of their rights to living.I do not blame the guru all I ask is will someone from the satsang help me out that i may help the poor rather that the rich becoming richer.Hope i am not rude.</p>Juan commented on 'Radha Soami Satsang Beas guru makes $254 million'tag:typepad.com,2003:6a00d83451c0aa69e2017c3564e57c970b2013-01-07T10:53:05Z2013-01-07T19:16:49ZJuanDzoni, Babaji is never interested in giving explanations on subjects which are not spiritual. He is not at all interested...<p>Dzoni,</p>
<p>Babaji is never interested in giving explanations on subjects which are not spiritual. He is not at all interested in mental gymnastics. The only thing these kind masters want is to follow the teachings of the saints.</p>
<p>Maturity is to understand that these masters also have their own families to take care, they have their desires, ambitions and further they have the opportunity to live a comfortable life and as long as they are in human form, they have to live like human beings.<br />
</p>Dzoni E.Nowak commented on 'Radha Soami Satsang Beas guru makes $254 million'tag:typepad.com,2003:6a00d83451c0aa69e2017c35619890970b2013-01-07T01:53:29Z2013-01-07T19:16:49ZDzoni E.NowakWoow.I must tell yaa all something((: U R all right.(each 2his own understanding): I wont tell you if I am...<p>Woow.I must tell yaa all something((:<br />
U R all right.(each 2his own understanding):<br />
I wont tell you if I am the follower or not,<br />
because it is not important in this issue.</p>
<p>What is important is to be mature(as S.Mat and<br />
all good educations)are taching students to be,<br />
before taking any spiritual path sireiously.</p>
<p>Maturity is not about the age,but thing of understanding<br />
mixed with culture,which includes respect.(as in martial arts is.. very important to beconcored.<br />
Respect means that one,however wise or intelegent or "spiritual is",doest try to force his wiews on the other person,but tries to understands him.<br />
I saw Baba Ji tries very hard to understand many wiews of life itself,so he can give best explenation,if anyone asks him.</p>
<p>Tao saying goes:ask and U will look stupid only 5min.,dont ask and Uwill be stupid 4whole life.<br />
RESPECT</p>Juan commented on 'Radha Soami Satsang Beas guru makes $254 million'tag:typepad.com,2003:6a00d83451c0aa69e2017c31a6b766970b2012-09-04T23:52:53Z2012-09-05T15:15:54ZJuanAnku, Do you know what sort of hardwork is Babaji doing to earn his bread and butter? Thanks,<p>Anku,</p>
<p>Do you know what sort of hardwork is Babaji doing to earn his bread and butter?</p>
<p>Thanks,</p>Janya Barrish commented on 'Radha Soami Satsang Beas guru makes $254 million'tag:typepad.com,2003:6a00d83451c0aa69e2017c31a693fc970b2012-09-04T23:13:02Z2012-09-05T15:15:54ZJanya BarrishAllan Sparrow, and you don't think that what you said is strange? "At the end of my visit I felt...<p>Allan Sparrow, and you don't think that what you said is strange?</p>
<p>"At the end of my visit I felt I ought to pay something for this long stay. I was told they did NOT want me to pay anything at all in India, but IF I wanted I could put something into the funds in England."</p>
<p>My family and I, I being the only initiate, no one else felt drawn to be one, were housed at a hostel, I guess, that is what it was, back in Charan Singh days and we literally froze, no heat, no fire. We paid for our food, at a nominal price. We were there for several days and we received no special treatment. So, this just bears out the racism part of the Dera experience. Maybe its different now in 2012, although several people have noted that nothing has changed as far as the special treatment foreigners receive compared to the Indian visitors.</p>
<p>Which brings me to the famous American saying:</p>
<p>Money talks and BS walks. Hee hee! Don't worry be happy.</p>
<p>Oh, somebody pleeeese watch and post a smile. Your Ok, I'm Ok, Guru is OK, what else could we ask for?</p>
<p><a href="http://vimeo.com/35208015" rel="nofollow">http://vimeo.com/35208015</a></p>Anku commented on 'Radha Soami Satsang Beas guru makes $254 million'tag:typepad.com,2003:6a00d83451c0aa69e2017d3bd4846c970c2012-09-04T19:57:06Z2012-09-04T19:57:06ZAnkuI don't understand what the he'll these people are creating mess in spirituality the author who had posted this wall...<p>I don't understand what the he'll these people are creating mess in spirituality the author who had posted this wall him self is Radha soami follower and he calls him self a true follower but in my opinion he just insulting his master in front of this whole world the reason for this is he is trying to get publicity for his own spiritual company the truly fake stories he had posted. At least our babaji is earning from his hardwork for bread n butter he is nt depended upon his disciples money or wealth like other spiritual gurus do I dnt understand why dnt this author writes about the thousands of fake spiritual gurus who every day arrested in some or the other scandal. It's my kind request to author pl do not try to hurt our spirituality and our faith our babaji is truly innocent and the best in the universe.<br />
</p>sapient commented on 'Radha Soami Satsang Beas guru makes $254 million'tag:typepad.com,2003:6a00d83451c0aa69e2016304f6e471970d2012-04-30T08:15:08Z2012-04-30T17:49:58ZsapientThanks for doing a great job Brian. I hope bringing all these news out in public will at least raise...<p>Thanks for doing a great job Brian. I hope bringing all these news out in public will at least raise some questions! RSSB is a cult and people believing in cult have become sick and i don't expect them to suddenly drop their idiotic belief and think rationally why their Master is laundering all the money! You are doing what Ali Sina (alisina.org) did for cult Islam! Leaving a cult like islam was impossible to even dream a few years ago but it is becoming reality now. Hopefully there is more light out there for the people who are stuck in RSSB cult! </p>Blogger Brian commented on 'Radha Soami Satsang Beas guru makes $254 million'tag:typepad.com,2003:6a00d83451c0aa69e20168eac32c44970c2012-04-26T17:07:26Z2012-04-26T17:42:52ZBlogger Brianhttp://profile.typepad.com/brihinesJimi, you are indeed missing something. Gurinder Singh got a special insider deal on the shares. He didn't buy them...<p>Jimi, you are indeed missing something. Gurinder Singh got a special insider deal on the shares. He didn't buy them as a regular investor. The RSSB guru used his connections as God in Human Form to become rich. </p>
<p>The shares were essentially gifted to him by a disciple who also was a relative. RSSB initiates dominate the management of Religare, so there are inherent conflicts between Gurinder Singh's "spiritual" life and "personal" life.</p>
<p>Soon I might write a blog post about how the New Testament would look a lot different if Jesus had acted like Gurinder Singh has. That'll give you more insights into the weirdness of a "saint" using his sainthood to become hugely rich, which preaching the importance of returning to God and detaching from the illusion of this world.</p>Jimi commented on 'Radha Soami Satsang Beas guru makes $254 million'tag:typepad.com,2003:6a00d83451c0aa69e2016304ca89b9970d2012-04-26T11:30:51Z2012-04-27T17:41:58ZJimiI've been reading this article and comments and I'm not sure what the issue is... It looks like BJ and...<p>I've been reading this article and comments and I'm not sure what the issue is... It looks like BJ and family bought some shares and sold them and made a profit. What's wrong with that? Am I missing something? Is there something wrong with him being wealthy? Or are you implying he has stolen money? As I'm sure any satsangi or ex-satsangi knows, masters never get paid by their disciples, they live off their own income. Historically I have read about spiritual masters who are poor or rich or anywhere in-between. Off the top of my head Kabir was poor weaver, Mira was from aristocracy, Buddha was a prince, Jesus a carpenter (quite poor I suppose)...there must be loads more. Any donated money gets used to provide some service (free food, accommodation, books and CDs at cost price etc...) I amd a satsangi and was initiated about 17 years ago and have never been asked for any donation and have stayed at Haynes Park on numerous occasions and Dera in India 6 times. I have generally found a spirit of generosity and kindness at these places. While there are certainly quite a few screwed up people who follow Sant Mat (not excluding myself!) I have always found BJ to be inspiring and patient and giving his time to answering questions and explaining the philosophy (which, let's face it, is not complicated). I am always open to learning anything new and I think it's good to question. I think Buddha said "Question everything!" I also seem to remember Sawan Singh saying if something can't stand up to questioning then it is worthless (something like that). I don't really care how much money BJ has; I am interested in what he says and how he conducts himself, and I am definitely open to learning!</p>tucson commented on 'Radha Soami Satsang Beas guru makes $254 million'tag:typepad.com,2003:6a00d83451c0aa69e2016303487be5970d2012-03-26T06:29:17Z2012-03-26T17:02:38ZtucsonJust, In the left column near the top of this page or homepage use the Google search. Enter the search...<p>Just,</p>
<p>In the left column near the top of this page or homepage use the Google search. Enter the search words "Gurinder Singh Religare".</p>
<p>Gurinder Singh earns his own income in a very big way.</p>
<p>He is a very good guru to follow...to the bank. </p>Just commented on 'Radha Soami Satsang Beas guru makes $254 million'tag:typepad.com,2003:6a00d83451c0aa69e20168e93bab11970c2012-03-26T00:07:56Z2012-03-26T02:55:58ZJustWhat about the thousands of satsangis all around the world who enjoy Gurinder Singh's visits to their countries. Perhaps instead...<p>What about the thousands of satsangis all around the world who enjoy Gurinder Singh's visits to their countries. Perhaps instead of his visits they would prefer trudging up to visit him in some mountain cave in India! </p>
<p>This is the modern world and he is a modern guru. I don't believe he is living off the sangat's donations, he is entitled to his own income.</p>George commented on 'Radha Soami Satsang Beas guru makes $254 million'tag:typepad.com,2003:6a00d83451c0aa69e2016303458696970d2012-03-25T23:16:05Z2012-03-26T02:55:58ZGeorgeBut Tara, maybe he wants to hedge his bets, might as well have a good time here on the earthly...<p>But Tara, maybe he wants to hedge his bets, might as well have a good time here on the earthly realm if he's wrong about the the kingdom of eternity..</p>tucson commented on 'Radha Soami Satsang Beas guru makes $254 million'tag:typepad.com,2003:6a00d83451c0aa69e20163033ef5bd970d2012-03-25T07:10:37Z2012-03-25T16:53:31ZtucsonJust wait a minute. Do you know anything about Gurinder Singh and Religare? The Gurinder Singh family are billionaires albeit...<p>Just wait a minute. Do you know anything about Gurinder Singh and Religare? The Gurinder Singh family are billionaires albeit in rupees.</p>
<p>Cheap books mean nothing. Most organizations give away publicity literature. By that standard, RS books are expensive.</p>Just commented on 'Radha Soami Satsang Beas guru makes $254 million'tag:typepad.com,2003:6a00d83451c0aa69e201676431a34a970b2012-03-25T01:04:17Z2012-03-25T03:06:27ZJustAs a long term satsangi I have bought most of the books and looking at the prices... from $1.50 to...<p>As a long term satsangi I have bought most of the books and looking at the prices... from $1.50 to $3.00.</p>
<p>Get real people!</p>BeeBee commented on 'Radha Soami Satsang Beas guru makes $254 million'tag:typepad.com,2003:6a00d83451c0aa69e20168e92f3f35970c2012-03-24T16:48:53Z2012-03-24T17:49:11ZBeeBeeWow, you summed it up nicely Brian. Disciple's can either go brain-dead with the thing, lunge about with vituperative denial,...<p>Wow, you summed it up nicely Brian. </p>
<p>Disciple's can either go brain-dead with the thing, lunge about with vituperative denial, or they can sharpen up their rationalization skills to try and shear that huge rope (Guru's monetary enrichment) enough to get it through the eye of the spiritual needle. </p>Blogger Brian commented on 'Radha Soami Satsang Beas guru makes $254 million'tag:typepad.com,2003:6a00d83451c0aa69e20167642e00c9970b2012-03-24T15:56:20Z2012-03-24T17:49:11ZBlogger Brianhttp://profile.typepad.com/brihinesGeorge, has anyone accused Gurinder Singh of a crime? I'm not aware that anyone has. Being a good businessman was...<p>George, has anyone accused Gurinder Singh of a crime? I'm not aware that anyone has. </p>
<p>Being a good businessman was what the guru of RSSB did before he ascended to the post of "God in Human Form." If he was such a terrific businessman, why didn't he become hugely rich before he became guru?</p>
<p>The situation is akin to Jesus preaching his gospel about "easier for a rich man...etc" and the need to live a virtuous life while simultaneously using the business connections of the Apostles to make hundreds of millions of skekels, or whatever money was called back in Judea several thousand years ago.</p>
<p>Wouldn't you think this would be incongruous, a "saint" preaching the importance of achieving salvation and returning to God, while at the same time throwing himself into personal monetary enrichment for he and his family, sitting on a board of directions filled with people who worship him?</p>
<p>That's the situation with RSSB. Hope this helps explain why the situation looks so weird, and so wrong, to those who are used to a different standard of behavior from RSSB gurus.</p>George commented on 'Radha Soami Satsang Beas guru makes $254 million'tag:typepad.com,2003:6a00d83451c0aa69e20167642ca8a9970b2012-03-24T12:32:58Z2012-03-24T17:49:11ZGeorgeNow really is it such a crime that he is a good businessman? Is this really not what it is...<p>Now really is it such a crime that he is a good businessman?</p>
<p>Is this really not what it is all about? Aint publishing books about the moolah at the end of the day? so he fleeces a few million suckers, aint that what everyone tries to do, some with more success than others?</p>
<p>On the plus side, he does build hospitals and shit...</p>Blogger Brian commented on 'Radha Soami Satsang Beas guru makes $254 million'tag:typepad.com,2003:6a00d83451c0aa69e201676429d7ad970b2012-03-24T05:16:48Z2012-03-24T07:30:18ZBlogger Brianhttp://profile.typepad.com/brihinesPete, you didn't say what part of this post you thought was inaccurate. If you think there is a "know...<p>Pete, you didn't say what part of this post you thought was inaccurate. If you think there is a "know it all" attitude on this blog, please tell me what you know that is more accurate than what was said in this post. Otherwise, you will seem to be the person who is making claims that can't be backed up.</p>
<p>I guess you don't get around the Internet very much. Most blogs, newspaper sites, and such which get a lot of traffic moderate comments. Otherwise spammers and trolls take over. I still get a lot of spam comments, even with the comment moderation. The TypePad spam filter catches about ten times more -- which would all come through if comments weren't moderated.</p>
<p>All comments which are related to the blog post, and even some which don't, are published. I don't moderate based on whether someone agrees with the post, only on whether the comment is related to the post and isn't spam.</p>
<p>Have you tried leaving an unmoderated comment on the Radha Soami Satsang Beas web site? Or any comment at all, for that matter. Oh, I forgot -- you can't, because no comments, feedback, discussion, or criticism are allowed. And yet I'm supposed to be the closed-minded one? Give me a break.</p>Pete commented on 'Radha Soami Satsang Beas guru makes $254 million'tag:typepad.com,2003:6a00d83451c0aa69e20168e929f093970c2012-03-24T03:26:38Z2012-03-24T17:49:11ZPeteAlso funny to know that you moderate your comments. So much for the truth ey, hypocritical much?<p>Also funny to know that you moderate your comments.</p>
<p>So much for the truth ey, hypocritical much?</p>Pete commented on 'Radha Soami Satsang Beas guru makes $254 million'tag:typepad.com,2003:6a00d83451c0aa69e2016764291a2e970b2012-03-24T03:25:34Z2012-03-24T17:49:11ZPeteI had a great laugh with all the conspiracy theories. Gurinder Singh is an evil man laughing with all his...<p>I had a great laugh with all the conspiracy theories.</p>
<p>Gurinder Singh is an evil man laughing with all his money.</p>
<p>Also 9/11 was an inside job.</p>
<p>Illuminati controls the media.</p>
<p>Give me a break lol, I find it funny how some of these people here are trying to pinpoint an organization and there master with a "I know it all-wisdom" tone. </p>
<p>Keep your 3rd grade shenanigans to yourself. </p>
<p>Regards</p>Umesh commented on 'Radha Soami Satsang Beas guru makes $254 million'tag:typepad.com,2003:6a00d83451c0aa69e2016302dac23c970d2012-03-15T05:58:40Z2012-03-15T21:53:37ZUmesh Babaji.. Dun hv single sec. to join u gyz as babaji.. Is alwys buzie wid dr teaching prgrm.. (chk out...<p>Babaji.. Dun hv single sec. to join u gyz as babaji.. Is alwys buzie wid dr teaching prgrm.. (chk out dr local n forgn schdls) 1 more thng... babaji is nt using ur or mine money to create dr asst! :) soon u gyz ll be d lover of rssb :)</p>har commented on 'Radha Soami Satsang Beas guru makes $254 million'tag:typepad.com,2003:6a00d83451c0aa69e20167613a8aeb970b2012-01-28T13:20:58Z2012-01-28T19:15:39Zharthe rssb is for spiritual upliftment and not for creating interests in fiscal matters. get initiated work hard see the...<p>the rssb is for spiritual upliftment and not for creating interests in fiscal matters. get initiated work hard see the what wonders are done to you. donot jump to any conclusions.for spiritual upliftment years and years perseverance is required. once we accept a pious soul our master he remains so for births. he is always detached. you may say any thing to him. truly a master is lotus on water.</p>PB commented on 'Radha Soami Satsang Beas guru makes $254 million'tag:typepad.com,2003:6a00d83451c0aa69e2014e8b02bcbf970d2011-08-28T02:12:32Z2011-08-28T03:48:36ZPBI wonder how much of this is owned by Gurinder SD himself... Any guess?<p>I wonder how much of this is owned by Gurinder SD himself... Any guess?</p>Dogribb commented on 'Radha Soami Satsang Beas guru makes $254 million'tag:typepad.com,2003:6a00d83451c0aa69e2014e881c360f970d2011-04-27T17:31:07Z2011-04-27T21:10:18ZDogribbJohn Stamos you mean ?<p>John Stamos you mean ? </p>Dave commented on 'Radha Soami Satsang Beas guru makes $254 million'tag:typepad.com,2003:6a00d83451c0aa69e201538e23b2f1970b2011-04-26T19:47:41Z2011-04-27T01:00:39ZDaveTHis Gurinder Singh bloke doesn't seem to mind that he has so much money that he can't seem to let...<p>THis Gurinder Singh bloke doesn't seem to mind that he has so much money that he can't seem to let go of it to give it to starving people in India and Africa. He has so much money that he can live comfortably off the interest after paying for living quarters and food for the rest of his life, but he seems lacking when it comes to distributing the rest of the millions to the poor, starving and destitute of India.</p>
<p>Can you take someone like that seriously? </p>
<p>Most of the yogis in India have no money. They beg from door to door for food, have nothing but a loincloth for clothing, and teach renunciation. How can you compare this with a millionaire guru? There is no comparison whatsoever.</p>
<p>Face it. Your "guru" leeches money from people, even people that hardly have any money in the first place, and uses it for his personal benefit because he doesn't have to work for a living. He has servents that dally to him all the time. Can you explain to me why this Gurinder imposter claims to be God incarnate but he NEEDS MONEY in order to survive the way he does? EXPLAIN IT.</p>Blogger Brian commented on 'Radha Soami Satsang Beas guru makes $254 million'tag:typepad.com,2003:6a00d83451c0aa69e201538e232e95970b2011-04-26T17:33:25Z2011-04-26T17:33:43ZBlogger Brianhttp://www.hinesblog.comShilpi, I've been to the Dera twice -- in 1977 when Charan Singh was guru, and in 1998 when Gurinder...<p>Shilpi, I've been to the Dera twice -- in 1977 when Charan Singh was guru, and in 1998 when Gurinder Singh had taken over. Yes, the Dera is an impressive community. No argument about that. </p>
<p>However, I'd take issue with your contention that Gurinder Singh is "earning" his living, in the Sant Mat sense of the term, by essentially running a huge corporation that is led by Sant Mat initiates because he was given hundreds of millions worth of shares by other initiates who happened to be relatives and is revered as a spiritual leader by devotees.</p>
<p>Charan Singh didn't mix spiritual "business" with worldly business. Gurinder Singh does. That's a fact. You're free to make of that fact whatever you want to.</p>
<p>Yes, it shows that Gurinder Singh is one of us, so to speak. He's as interested in making as much money with as little effort as any other worldly-minded person. If that's how you feel God in Human Form should act, great. </p>
<p>Myself, I kind of like the idea of a greedy, materialistic god, because that means I'm well on the way to becoming godly myself.</p>Shilpi Alagh8 commented on 'Radha Soami Satsang Beas guru makes $254 million'tag:typepad.com,2003:6a00d83451c0aa69e2014e881524d9970d2011-04-26T09:55:41Z2011-04-26T17:33:44ZShilpi Alagh8http://profile.typepad.com/alagh8TAO, MIKE, GEORGE, DAVID, BLOGGER BRAIN and all other neech who are against Guru Gurinder Singh Ji Maharaj... u all...<p><br />
TAO, MIKE, GEORGE, DAVID, BLOGGER BRAIN and all other neech who are against Guru Gurinder Singh Ji Maharaj... u all are a crook to add such statements. You all are person who have absolutely unscrupulous, with no noesis and greedy people who are so jealous of other who are dam popular and well affluent people then you poor chaps. Babaji clearly says that in this world, you have to earn, in order to live life. He encourages people to fulfil all humanly duties rather than going and mediation in mountains/ away from home. So, as he Himself earning as after all, He has his family as well. </p>
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Have you guys ever visited Beas/ Dera, Punjab (India)? The RSSB Headquarters is also known as the 'Dera'. The Dear is amongst the most well planned colonies of India with no air pollution. It is self sustaining community...Tumhara baap kabhi nahin gaya hoga toh tum kahan gaye hoge. OOH!! Sorry to ask obvious question because I know you people with unfit soul are not allowed. Just ask those people who have ever travelled to Beas, or any other center of RSSB. Every year, millions of Radha Soami followers travel to Beas to attend satsangs (discourses) often held at the Dera for weeks at a time. (That too without any publicity or hoarding.). The number of sangat (devotees) present on these days reaches several hundred thousand on the days of the Satsangs. For these followers, they maintain a free kitchen called 'Langar', as well as canteens and snack bars at a nominal price. The free langar complex covers over 48 acres (190,000 m2) and operates around the clock, capable of feeding up to 300,000 people per meal, 50,000 in a single sitting. Now, tell me... whose gonna pay for such a huge expense. Tum logo ka baap??</p>
<p>Again, do you know how much it cost to give accommodation to such a huge gathering? The colony is visited by people from around the world and by all walks of life. To provide temporary accommodation for everyone, a variety of facilities are offered. There are a number of guest hostels with individual rooms and attached baths, hostels with dormitory-style rooms, and other large buildings to house visitors. The visitors are provided free accommodation. This accounts a huge expenditure too. </p>
<p>Three Charitable hospitals were built and run by RSSB. Beas Hospital, Sikanderpur Hospital and the Bhota Hospital provide free medical care for the rural community surrounding it and aid the needy. They include free accommodation for relatives of their patients. For a number of years an annual eye clinic was run and held at the Dera, giving medical aid to people suffering eye-ailments, including the removal of cataracts. <br />
RSSB also helps in relief efforts of victims of natural disasters. <br />
The Dera seeks to be as self-sufficient and environmentally friendly as possible. Every year thousands of trees are planted. Many lawns and parks beautify the colony and provide space for visitors and residents to rest and relax. More than 1,000 acres (4.0 km2) of land are cultivated for growing vegetables and fruits that are used in the langar and by Dera residents. Organic farming methods are being adapted to local conditions. The Dera has its own water supply, water treatment plant and solid waste treatment facility. It has its own electrical sub-station and large electrical generator back-up facility to supply emergency power to the whole community.<br />
All these things need funds. I guess you are not the one who pay single penny for the same. </p>
<p> The railway station of Beas is also very neat and clean. It is recorded in the Guinness book of records. The name of the Beas Railway Station is also included in the name of biggest Indian railway stations and these are Delhi, Mumbai, Kolkatta, Chennai and Beas. It is the cleanest station in India. There are so many greenery and parks in Beas railway Station<br />
Moreover, you will find RSSB even in the smaller cities. </p>
<p>Right now, I am just talking about the Indian centers and majorly about Dera. Just imagine, the expense incurred by RSSB administration across globe. You people can’t even calculate that, for sure. So it’s better not write such comments. Tum log jab bhi bologe, gobaar ki karoge toh chup raho na… <br />
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</p>Dogribb commented on 'Radha Soami Satsang Beas guru makes $254 million'tag:typepad.com,2003:6a00d83451c0aa69e20147e37272e4970b2011-03-25T02:30:16Z2011-03-25T03:25:44ZDogribbAlan..take it as a sign that Babaji doesn't want you to post your opinion.I know plenty of strong heavy weight...<p>Alan..take it as a sign that Babaji doesn't want you to post your opinion.I know plenty of strong heavy weight devotees who would.</p>Pablo Thorsen commented on 'Radha Soami Satsang Beas guru makes $254 million'tag:typepad.com,2003:6a00d83451c0aa69e20147e36db2c2970b2011-03-24T06:41:38Z2011-03-24T17:37:03ZPablo ThorsenTypepad definitely times out if you are writing a lengthy piece. Another way around this problem is to copy your...<p>Typepad definitely times out if you are writing a lengthy piece. Another way around this problem is to copy your material, refresh the page and then paste it in the comment box. You may have to rewrite your name or email as well, but Typepad will then accept your text.</p>Mike Williams commented on 'Radha Soami Satsang Beas guru makes $254 million'tag:typepad.com,2003:6a00d83451c0aa69e2014e60124773970c2011-03-24T03:44:52Z2011-03-24T04:34:16ZMike WilliamsWon't accept and other signs pop up on me also. Best way to get around is to delete name, then...<p>Won't accept and other signs pop<br />
up on me also. Best way to get around is to delete name, then retype your name (where it says name is required.)</p>
<p>I also got can't accept sign today.</p>Blogger Brian commented on 'Radha Soami Satsang Beas guru makes $254 million'tag:typepad.com,2003:6a00d83451c0aa69e2014e601214d7970c2011-03-24T02:55:55Z2011-03-24T04:34:16ZBlogger Brianhttp://www.hinesblog.comAlan, you jumped to an unjustified conclusion. When TypePad says the blogging service can't accept a comment, often (or usually)...<p>Alan, you jumped to an unjustified conclusion. When TypePad says the blogging service can't accept a comment, often (or usually) it is because a computer connection has timed out -- probably by leaving the blog post window open for over an hour or so without any activity on the page.</p>
<p>Likely solution: reload the page (command "R" on my Mac). This should make TypePad happy. This "we can't accept..." message has popped up on me before, and I'm the blog administrator. So don't take the comment rejection personally. It had nothing to do with the content of your comment,, being simply a computer timeout thing most likely.</p>Alan Sparrow commented on 'Radha Soami Satsang Beas guru makes $254 million'tag:typepad.com,2003:6a00d83451c0aa69e20147e36c9fe0970b2011-03-24T01:51:05Z2011-03-24T04:34:16ZAlan SparrowI DID attempt to reply to the comment above by Pablo Thorson - But I am informed my detailed, polite...<p>I DID attempt to reply to the comment above by Pablo Thorson - But I am informed my detailed, polite response could not be accepted. I can only assume that this site is completely biased and censored by bigots who are terrified they might hear something which cuts near the bone - Just as my original message obviously did!</p>Pablo Thorsen commented on 'Radha Soami Satsang Beas guru makes $254 million'tag:typepad.com,2003:6a00d83451c0aa69e20147e2c295cc970b2011-02-23T05:53:39Z2011-02-23T18:36:27ZPablo ThorsenAlan Sparrow, It is made abundantly clear in the Beas literature and in the countless satsangs I attended...no one returns...<p>Alan Sparrow,</p>
<p>It is made abundantly clear in the Beas literature and in the countless satsangs I attended...no one returns to the "father" except by the grace of a perfect living master and thereby merging with Shabd Dhun. Period. </p>
<p>Seems like Babaji is a bit of a rebel and a heretic, and a rich one at that.</p>
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<p>Also, what do you mean by "incoherent"? Point to something you don't understand in what I've written about RSSB. Then I can help you grasp what you're missing. Nobody else has complained about the clarity of my writing, though some people disagree with what I say.</p>
<p>Disagreement isn't the same as being incoherent. I think I make a lot of sense in what I've written about RSSB. If you think I'm wrong, be specific. It doesn't contribute to a discussion to simply say that someone is "incoherent."</p>
<p>I had many good experiences with RSSB during the 35+ years I was an active member. And I also had quite a few not-so-good experiences. That's life. It has ups and downs, a lot of changes. It's like a marriage and divorce. All the happy times aren't erased by the bad times. That's how I feel about RSSB. </p>
<p>We grow. We learn. Again, such is life.</p>dheeraj commented on 'Radha Soami Satsang Beas guru makes $254 million'tag:typepad.com,2003:6a00d83451c0aa69e20147e2bf251e970b2011-02-22T15:48:52Z2011-02-22T16:21:20Zdheerajhi brian, I have followed ur writings of late,you seem to have got a obsession with RSSB,so much so that...<p>hi brian,<br />
I have followed ur writings of late,you seem to have got a obsession with RSSB,so much so that you are just there to criticize everything associated with them!the thing is that what you write is quite incoherent! you seem to question the ways of the RSSB but there are no new methods told in there,they preach the same old principles of spirituality which have been taught in India for centuries!you have written so much against baba gurinder singh but nothing substantial came out of it! it appears while you were associated with RSSB some of your aspirations were not met,or you had some really bad experience! its good to present some negative sides of a system,but your case is very disappointing and really incoherent!</p>manohar commented on 'Radha Soami Satsang Beas guru makes $254 million'tag:typepad.com,2003:6a00d83451c0aa69e20147e2b80835970b2011-02-21T11:37:15Z2011-02-21T16:44:59ZmanoharGO and visit once there. Check all the account books from last 100 years. Will feel ashamed.<p>GO and visit once there. Check all the account books from last 100 years. Will feel ashamed.</p>Dogribb commented on 'Radha Soami Satsang Beas guru makes $254 million'tag:typepad.com,2003:6a00d83451c0aa69e20148c7cc39b7970c2011-01-20T04:37:45Z2011-01-20T17:11:34ZDogribbMiracle stories are the only thing that RSSB...BSers have.Seems they all have a Grace story or entertain notions of Masters...<p>Miracle stories are the only thing that RSSB...BSers have.Seems they all have a Grace story or entertain notions of Masters hand in their lives.All religions strain at this to make God more real and tangibly objective to them.Its probably a social hierarchy thing as well.All very very mundane.</p>
<p>Homer Simpson "Dear God. If you want me to eat this donut please give me no sign now.Thank you God"</p>Trey commented on 'Radha Soami Satsang Beas guru makes $254 million'tag:typepad.com,2003:6a00d83451c0aa69e20148c7cb3233970c2011-01-20T01:48:56Z2011-01-20T03:53:09ZTreyHeather McConnell, Naturally it is discomforting to hear one's faith challenged. Your reaction is understandable, but do you really know...<p>Heather McConnell,</p>
<p>Naturally it is discomforting to hear one's faith challenged. Your reaction is understandable, but do you really know much about the path you are on? You could check this out:</p>
<p><a href="http://radhasoamis.freeyellow.com/" rel="nofollow">http://radhasoamis.freeyellow.com/</a></p>
<p>BUT, this is Mike Williams' site on the history of the Radha Soami movement. Not to be read by those who prefer to look at the movement with rose colored glasses.</p>
<p> Warning. You may find this history disturbing. In fact, I advise you not to read it. I only put this here for those with curiosity, an open mind and above all the courage to have their illusions challenged and possibly shattered.</p>
<p>Life is tough. Sometimes a little blind faith is soothing in what otherwise appears to be a random chaos universe. Maybe your faith is a blessing. I don't know. I haven't figured that one out yet. </p>tAo commented on 'Radha Soami Satsang Beas guru makes $254 million'tag:typepad.com,2003:6a00d83451c0aa69e20147e1c15300970b2011-01-19T23:49:15Z2011-01-20T03:53:09ZtAoHeather McConnell, Your comment clearly shows that you are a sant mat believer who is presumptious and dogmatic about matters...<p>Heather McConnell, </p>
<p>Your comment clearly shows that you are a sant mat believer who is presumptious and dogmatic about matters of which you have no real knowledge, and that you are also generalizing and actually quite mistaken about what other people here have said and are saying.</p>
<p>Moreover, you are the "satsangi" that doesn't "seem to be able to get out of the first box".</p>
<p>It is merely your belief that "this" is a "journey that can take four lives". but the truth is, that you don't know what if anything is anything beyond your own life at this present moment. you are foolish to presume anything about another lifetime.</p>
<p>Also, its pretty darn apparent that you don't know anything about "living on the razor's edge". so don't be such a hypocrite.</p>
<p>Also, who (besides you) said anything about "becoming a Saint"?? i doubt there is anyone on this blog who is trying to be some saint. this "saint" stuff is nonsense. people are fallible and imperfect human beings. no one was or is a "saint". thats just a naieve religious myth. </p>
<p>Also, no one here, including the author of this blog, is trying to "take others down". this notion shows how ignorant and mistaken you are. </p>
<p>Also, i hardly think that anyone here is in "misery" due to their leaving RS, or that those who have left RS are in need of any "company". it more likely that you are the one who desperately needs the company of the RS sheep. so then, why are you here?? it seems that you are the one who wants to "complain" and try to criticise people who no longer believe the RS nonsense and rubbish that you do??</p>
<p>It is qyuite clear to me that you do not know "what is going on here". and you are the one who is "complaining".</p>
<p>And lastly, fyi, i assure you that i, for one, am not "going after" anyone... nor do i have any "object of disdain". so i think you really have no clue about what other people think, or why they no longer follow RS, or what all is wrong with RS. you are just an ignorant person pinting your finger at other people because you don't like the fact that they no longer believe in your spiritual path, in your guru, in your religion. and thats your peoblem, not ours.</p>Heather McConnell commented on 'Radha Soami Satsang Beas guru makes $254 million'tag:typepad.com,2003:6a00d83451c0aa69e20147e1c131dd970b2011-01-19T23:24:00Z2011-01-20T03:53:09ZHeather McConnellYou are not going to provoke me, Brian. The Guru does not need me to defend Him, either. And, the...<p>You are not going to provoke me, Brian. The Guru does not need me to defend Him, either. And, the answer to my question is - you came after me. </p>Sunny Jay commented on 'Radha Soami Satsang Beas guru makes $254 million'tag:typepad.com,2003:6a00d83451c0aa69e20147e1c0e995970b2011-01-19T22:36:32Z2011-01-20T03:53:09ZSunny JayTo Blogger Brian: It is still hard to believ that you are the man that wrote Life is Fair. I...<p>To Blogger Brian: It is still hard to believ that you are the man that wrote Life is Fair. I used to read that book all the time...loved the animations too:) Great idea. I just want to thank you for putting this whole website up. It really is comforting to know that there are others that had the courage to walk away from RSSB. To Heather...once in the RSSB cult it is really difficult to keep and open mind and question everything because the guidelines have been set and the agenda has been set too...i.e. once in RSSB; it is really difficult to continue being a REAL seeker of truth...because just like every other religion; RSSB requires one to have blind faith. Ironic that the Master rebukes other religions to be flawed with the concept of blind faith yet RSSB also follows suit. <br />
I kind of blame the whole Jesus story...he really raised the bar with the whole miracle stuff etc...I mean which modern Guru can follow that?<br />
Maybe Heather is right...maybe we complain too much on here...but all those religious nuts preach too much....there has to be some equilibrium surely!<br />
Hey Brian, serious questiona: 1) did you write any other RSSB books besides Life is Fair?<br />
2)When you walked out of RSSB, did the Master at that time try to contact you? I ask this because by being permitted to have a book published; you must of been a pretty big player in team RSSB...quarter back perhaps?<br />
3)And Finally; if someone were to have the guts to ask Baba Ji for some money; something trivial like £1000..do you think he would give it?<br />
4)Ok..one more question...I heard lots of miracle stories about Gurinder Singh when I was in RSSB...did you hear any about him?</p>Blogger Brian commented on 'Radha Soami Satsang Beas guru makes $254 million'tag:typepad.com,2003:6a00d83451c0aa69e20147e1c08e69970b2011-01-19T21:40:37Z2011-01-20T03:53:09ZBlogger Brianhttp://www.hinesblog.comHeather, hope you don't mind me observing that... You sound angry. And you are complaining. How is your message different...<p>Heather, hope you don't mind me observing that...</p>
<p>You sound angry. And you are complaining. How is your message different from the negative comments some people post on this blog about other subjects?</p>Heather McConnell commented on 'Radha Soami Satsang Beas guru makes $254 million'tag:typepad.com,2003:6a00d83451c0aa69e20147e1c0823a970b2011-01-19T21:32:36Z2011-01-20T03:53:09ZHeather McConnellSo much anger. Satsangis don't seem to be able to get out of the first box. This is the journey...<p>So much anger. Satsangis don't seem to be able to get out of the first box. This is the journey that can take four lives. It's living on the razor's edge. No one said becoming a Saint would be easy. But to leave and then try to take others down with you - wow, that's a real mistake. Misery may love company, but if you can't make it, why drag others down to make yourself feel better? So transparent that that is what is going on here. This complaining just has no end, apparently. Who are you all going after when you are tired of this object of disdain?</p>Blogger Brian commented on 'Radha Soami Satsang Beas guru makes $254 million'tag:typepad.com,2003:6a00d83451c0aa69e20147e16c8076970b2011-01-10T05:37:44Z2011-01-10T15:51:16ZBlogger Brianhttp://www.hinesblog.comSunny Jay, I liked your comment. Honest, well-written, entertaining. It stimulated tonight's blog post: http://hinessight.blogs.com/church_of_the_churchless/2011/01/religions-and-rssb-should-come-with-a-guarantee.html I included your comment in...<p>Sunny Jay, I liked your comment. Honest, well-written, entertaining. It stimulated tonight's blog post:<br />
<a href="http://hinessight.blogs.com/church_of_the_churchless/2011/01/religions-and-rssb-should-come-with-a-guarantee.html" rel="nofollow">http://hinessight.blogs.com/church_of_the_churchless/2011/01/religions-and-rssb-should-come-with-a-guarantee.html</a></p>
<p>I included your comment in the post, after fixing some typos. I also figured that your "usher" above probably was supposed to be "utter." At least, "utter" makes more sense to me. If it wasn't your chosen word, I can revert it back to "usher."</p>