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November 20, 2010


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Oh the horror! An accent born in Massachusetts, developed in Texas! (says she of Duxbury, living in Texas).

The point of "there is no point" is that we get to make our own point. How cool is that?

Sorry for the weird way I'm leaving this message, but at least I did read the post and enjoyed it alot. Hello Brian! I'm a new fan, but that is not why I'm writing. I tried to click on the links to sending you an email but they all lead to an internal email program that won't open for me on my wife's computer. So I'll used this moderated forum to send the message. Please excuse my stow away method. But at least I'll get to write it, even though it probably won't be read and less likely to be appreciated.

This morning I started reading Margaret Fuller's essay, presently entitled The Great Lawsuit. I think in different times and when it was first published in the Dial it was called something else. It is very obtuse, if that is the right word, certainly esoteric and difficult for a slogger like me to understand, but I feel it is very important and I thought maybe someone at the Church of the Churchless may consider it.

Our times are perilous. Whether we're globally warmed, whether we're in or near the time of peak oil, whether we're doomed or not by Tea Partyers or runaway government, whether extinction of so many species matters, whether the fact that some silly percentage such as one or ten controls some crazy quantity of all wealth like 50% to 70% or whatever the true numbers are--matters, whether the US is the savior or the terrorist of world culture, whether we face a daunting depression or a continued recession which is not likely to go away soon. Whether or not all that stuff and more which is debatable, almost no one could argue that the times are NOT perilous.

One fact which seems very reasonable is that the female paradigm, as in Earth Goddess, Gaia, the nourishing instinct may offer some solutions to a troubled world, largely approached with a male or more violent aspect.

Many of us seem to be undergoing a "speeding up" of consciousness related to the urge to integrate this female perspective. Not as some "gay" approach or whatever negative term may be applied to it, but as a sacred channel as in yin and yang or the two snakes of the cadeuses, also which is the diagram of Kundalini.

I think Margaret Fuller, using the enlightened voice of the Dial and Emerson and others who woke to the third way of approaching mind (in her own words, one way would be by thinking, a second by action and a third by quietness and turning your attention to "within," is guiding us to understand that it may be through our daughters that we finally learn to be fully guided by the divine.

The other reason I'm writing was that the search this morning which brought me to Brian and the Church of the Churchless was to see what the state of Ken Wilber is. I was a big reader and somewhat on the fence as to whether or not he was a genius and possibly a guru of our time until I got further into he and Andrew Cohen. My own questions and doubts which arose by questioning the extreme flagrance of their apparent egos lead me to do research which lead me to the story of Andrew's mother, of abused followers and then also to the same sorts of stories with Ken.

I'm very happy to find Church of the Churchless and Brian. I don't know how loyal I'll be as I'm unable to stay up with all that exists and my own lack of skill at staying focussed long enough on one subject, to not quickly be diffused when other "stuff happens." But I hope I will return and read more.


btw, if by some miracle anyone ever wants to reply my email is [email protected] and my name is Winston Dubby Riley on Facebook.

Everyone "knows" that "shit happens". But now we have the more encompassing version from Brian (at least relative to his present state of mind) that the meaning of life is most economically expressed in the mantra "stuff happens".

I personally find most "meaningful" the state of "not knowing" that Peter Ralston describes brilliantly in his book "The book of not knowing".

This "not knowing state" was also eloquently described by the great physicist Richard Feynman as follows (see Wikiquotes):

"I have approximate answers and possible beliefs in different degrees of certainty about different things, but I'm not absolutely sure of anything, and of many things I don't know anything about, but I don't have to know an answer I don't feel frightened by not knowing things, by being lost in the mysterious universe without having any purpose which is the way it really is as far as I can tell possibly. It doesn't frighten me."

No one "knew" this better than Socrates who said, "I know nothing except the fact of my ignorance".

Humility is the true source of action that leads to a better world (my response to Winston Riley's plea for finding "female-solutions" to a testosterone world gone mad).

"...Lost in the mysterious universe without having any purpose..." FANTASTIC. The point is, there is no point. The point is, if the mind roves looking for a point, there's nothing wrong with that either; this is play. The point is there is no point but existence itself, which blows the mind all by itself.

Winston, I enjoyed your Church of the Churchless comment. Thanks for sharing your ideas. Being a big fan of Taoism and Tai Chi, I resonate with your call to embrace the "sacred feminine." We need to be balanced between yin and yang, for sure. Unfortunately, though, simply having more women leaders isn't enough, because many (or most) are as aggressive, divisive, and self-centered as the men.

I took a look at the Fuller piece and found it as you described: from another time, long, and rather difficult to read. But I can understand why you were attracted to it. Sometimes those "classic" writings convey a sense of wisdom than our modern writings lack.

Regarding Wilber, I too used to admire him. I've read many of his books and used to respect his point of view. Now, though, he seems obnoxiously egotistical, overly intellectual, and too obsessed with marketing his approach to understanding the cosmos. And his relationship with super-jerk Andrew Cohen is disturbing. I used to subscribe to EnlightenNext until their "Pandit and the Guru" mutual admiration society made me want to barf.

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