« Religious craziness is like drunk driving | Main | Memorial service shows sad side of religion »

January 15, 2010

Comments

Feed You can follow this conversation by subscribing to the comment feed for this post.

Notable Quotes

Brian Hines:

"Religious fundamentalists haven't progressed out of this child-like authoritarian morality. If God or a representative of the Big Man Upstairs (such as a guru, preacher, or whoever) says to do such-and-such, that's the end of the story."


Dan Barker:

"When true believers say that something is "wrong," it is because it has been decreed wrong by a "holy" deity" ... "the authority figure should not be offended."

"People who believe they are living under the thumb of such a vain and petty lord are not guided by ethics; they are guided by fear."

"People who do not question authority become easy prey to dictators. Cult leaders can manipulate followers who give them blind obedience."

"There is no way such a bully can earn my admiration."


You said it well.

"My meditation is unaffected"-How do you know drinking wine has no effect on meditating if you weren't having inner experiences before you drank the rotgut?

DJ, what do you mean by "weren't having inner experiences"? I had plenty of inner experiences during my forty years of meditating. In fact, i'm having an inner experience right now, writing this comment.

Isn't every experience an "inner" experience? How do I get out of my brain/mind/psyche and have an outer experience?

Anyway, I've found through direct inner experience that drinking a glass of wine doesn't have any effect on my meditation.

I can concentrate just as well, or just as not-well, with having drunk a glass of wine as not having drunk a glass of wine. If anything, I feel more relaxed and more at one with the cosmos after imbibing some wine.

DJ,

btw, what makes you presume that a relatively small bit of wine is bad for meditation?? if that is what you think, then do you have any evidence to support that presumption??

and also, what makes you presume that wine rots the gut (you referred to wine as "rotgut")?? or is that just your personal taboos and conditioning talking?

and then, what makes so-called "inner experiences" the measure of anything?? how do you differentiate a so-called "inner experience" from an outer experience?? where/what is 'inner', and where/what is 'outer'??

apparently you don't drink wine... or do you?? how about mead??

did you known that 'the most interesting man in the world' drinks Dos Equis (XX)?? he does.

and did you you know that some tantric schools use wine and meat in their spiritual & mystical practices??

have you ever tried mushroom wine?? that'll teach you a thing or two about meditation.

and have you never read Omar Khyam?? methinks not.


Verify your Comment

Previewing your Comment

This is only a preview. Your comment has not yet been posted.

Working...
Your comment could not be posted. Error type:
Your comment has been posted. Post another comment

The letters and numbers you entered did not match the image. Please try again.

As a final step before posting your comment, enter the letters and numbers you see in the image below. This prevents automated programs from posting comments.

Having trouble reading this image? View an alternate.

Working...

Post a comment

Your Information

(Name is required. Email address will not be displayed with the comment.)

Welcome


  • Welcome to the Church of the Churchless. If this is your first visit, click on "About this site--start here" in the Categories section below.
  • HinesSight
    Visit my other weblog, HinesSight, for a broader view of what's happening in the world of your Church unpastor, his wife, and dog.
  • BrianHines.com
    Take a look at my web site, which contains information about a subject of great interest to me: me.
  • Twitter with me
    Join Twitter and follow my tweets about whatever.
  • I Hate Church of the Churchless
    Can't stand this blog? Believe the guy behind it is an idiot? Rant away on our anti-site.