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February 05, 2009


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from U. G.....regarding the search for spirituality and enlightenment. He insisted that this search is caused by the cultural environment, which demands conformity of individuals as it simultaneously places within them the desire to be special - the achievement of enlightenment thus viewed as a crowning expression of an individual's "specialness" and uniqueness. Consequently, the desire for enlightenment is exploited by gurus, spiritual teachers, and other "sellers of shoddy goods", who pretend to offer various ways to reach that goal. According to U.G., all these facilitators never deliver, and cannot ever deliver, since the goal itself (i.e. enlightenment), is unreachable.

"Mind is a Myth," This is no mind ? were just imagining it. That's the kind of pshyco babble crap i remember about him. He's anti everything as i recall.

Anyway, there's an interview w/ him in the "thinking allowed" series i used to check out from the library.

When confronted with the rational mind of michael mishlove, the author of the series, he just seemed senseless.

Cyfer I agree that "Mind is a Myth" is a bad title for U.G.'s book. I don't know what this means, and I don't think he demonstrates it -- whatever it is.

Whatever mind is or isn't, it sure seems like Krishnamurti used one, just like everyone else. Otherwise, how could he speak to people and otherwise function in life?

I enjoyed aspects of his book, but couldn't get past one big contradiction. U.G. kept claiming that he had nothing to teach, and everyone needed to find their own truth, yet he obviously believed that his vision of the world was more correct than that of the poor ignorant fools who came to talk with him.

If someone is going to be an iconoclast, they need to point their idol-destroying rhetorical gun at their own head also.

Never having read any of U.G. Krishnamurti's books, I looked him up in Wikipedia.

Very interesting quote: "The so called self-realisation is the discovery for yourself and by yourself that there is no self to discover. That will be a very shocking thing because its going to blast every nerve, every cell, even the cells in the marrow of your bones".

Also, Brian's quote above: "It makes no difference, as long as you're searching for peace of mind you will have a tormented mind. If you try not to search, or if you continue to search, you will remain the same."

Brian, I also like what you said about his emphasis on uniqueness.



That's a valid observation. It's diffinately an "inplay dynamic". They all think they're the chosen people. But what those #ic%heads don't know is that I AM the TRUE marked soul. THE TRUE CHOSEN ONE. Ha! they're all so delusional.


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