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August 31, 2008


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"Only problem (and it's a big one): religion has converted Godliness into a concept that can be understood by the human mind. Wonder and Mystery have been collapsed into commandments, tenets, beliefs, theologies, and other attempts to force the unknown One into the cage of conceptual structures."

Precisely. And, in taking god out of the heavens and into the pantheon of human ideas, they killed the very soul of what god was supposed to be. This is always how I've seen the Nietzschean idea of "god is dead". You can hear it so well here:

"What were we doing when we unchained this earth from its sun? Whither is it moving now? Whither are we moving? Away from all suns? Are we not plunging continually? Backward, sideward, forward, in all directions? Is there still any up or down? Are we not straying, as through an infinite nothing? Do we not feel the breath of empty space? Has it not become colder? Is not night continually closing in on us? Do we not need to light lanterns in the morning? Do we hear nothing as yet of the noise of the gravediggers who are burying God? Do we smell nothing as yet of the divine decomposition? Gods, too, decompose. God is dead. God remains dead. And we have killed him.

How shall we comfort ourselves, the murderers of all murderers? What was holiest and mightiest of all that the world has yet owned has bled to death under our knives: who will wipe this blood off us? What water is there for us to clean ourselves? What festivals of atonement, what sacred games shall we have to invent? Is not the greatness of this deed too great for us? Must we ourselves not become gods simply to appear worthy of it? There has never been a greater deed; and whoever is born after us---for the sake of this deed he will belong to a higher history than all history hitherto." [copied from here: http://www.fordham.edu/halsall/mod/nietzsche-madman.html]

I can't wait for all the Nietzsche haters to now emerge =] They always do.

But I have always felt that the god is dead concept is exact the same as this issue Haas points out. I wonder how Haas would feel about that link?

Along these lines and in this regard, my own sentiments (and more) can be found at:


(be sure to read the guest comments as well)

The answer is always predicated in the question. If the question concerning god requires us to commit to knowing something, then god is dead.

Like your previous question regarding meaninglessness, jptxs, look at the question: how is meaningless applied in a situation in which I have invested meaning? Philosophy hates this messy crippling of ideas at the behest of language.

Consider the act of painting: to the field of meaningless gesso, I bring my subject. By accepting the gesso as definitively blank, I create meaning. No sacrifice necessary, just a participation in the way my brain perceives, and then proceeds on.

In the terms of this post, I have faith in the gesture that applies meaning to meaninglessness, and I believe in the meaning, per se.

Wonderful article Brian! Thanks for expressing this.

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