Praising god, what fun is there in that? But cursing god – or whatever higher power you don't believe in – this has a lot more entertainment value.
Over on the terrific science blog Pharyngula ("Evolution, development, and random biological ejaculations from a godless liberal"), I ran across a post about a Indian man who volunteered to be put to death by a Tantrik magician.
On live TV, no less.
The laughing fellow on the left is Sanal Edamaruku, president of Rationalist International and atheist. The cranky old man in the robes on the right is Pandit Surinder Sharma, a self-described Tantrik Magician. The scene is in a studio on Indian television, where the magician is trying to kill the atheist with sorcery. Sharma had said he could kill anyone with sympathetic magic inflicted on a doll made of dough, and that he could accomplish this in a mere three minutes … so Edamaruku confidently offered himself as a victim. The old fake went on for hours and failed.
You can watch this display of religious superstition demolished by reality on YouTube. The first attempt to kill Edamaruku is documented in two videos, here and here.
Then Sharma took a crack at plying his black magic at night, when it supposedly would be more effective. The result was the same.
A laughing Edamaruku. That's what I enjoyed the most about this show. The skeptic's laughter.
So many people are infected with a fear of god. Or of guru. Or of some other metaphysical power that they believe can raise you up or cast you down as it likes.
The best response to this nonsense is bring it on. I curse god a lot, along with the guru who initiated me thirty-seven years ago. Both have ignored me, so I figure they deserve more than a little profanity.
Try it yourself. It's liberating. Whatever religious entity, person, symbol, or such you used to have the highest regard for (or maybe still do), curse it to the limit.
Now, I suppose it could be argued that this negative attention to religiosity reflects a lingering belief. I don't go around cursing leprechauns, because I've never had any faith in them.
But I think it's healthy, and an interesting experiment in self-awareness, to see what happens when you call a previously revered divinity every obscene name in your vocabulary. If you feel any hesitation or anxiety, some belief is still mixed in with your faithlessness.
When my computer acts up, and I call it a fucking piece of shit, I don't worry that it's going to bite me back.
However, the first few times I said this to my long-dead guru, the thought came: What if this pisses him off and he really does have godlike powers?
Well, I'm still here. Just like Edamaruku.
I figure that if the supposed divinities I curse (sometimes I cast obscenities at Jesus, God, and Allah also) don't like how I'm talking to them, they can damn well make an appearance in my consciousness and tell me off in person.
So far nobody's showed up. Guess they're either pansies or non-existent.
I enjoyed the comments on the Pharyngula post. Here's some of my favorites (#15, #21, #27, #41).
If a thousand magicians tried this a thousand times each, and in a single demonstration the target suffered a sudden heart attack, this would become the event many declare to be proof that the magic works. Much like prayer really.
Wow - apparently I have this amazingly strong force called "atheism" protecting me, and I don't even have to worship it. All I have to do is NOT believe in any god at all. I feel powerful! The tide is turning...
This is true, you know - Sanal was protected by something, even though it isn't really a god and Sanal doesn't really worship it. I call it "reality".
We can all do the same, and I have a number of times. When a believer is assaulting my ear hole with the supposed power of god to bring down lightning bolts from the heavens on unbelievers, or some other load of bull, I've called on their god to do exactly that, right now, within that specific minute. And I stand there waiting smiling. Amazingly, they step back like they actually expect something to happen. Of course, nothing happens. I remind them that dying 20 years from now of a natural death does not count. Since it's demonstrated their god has no actual power when nothing happens, all they can do is bleat "blasphemy".
Hear! Hear!
While I curse mostly to myself, I certainly curse a number of deities, including Jesus (the Christian god-man, not my friend from school of o so long ago).
This reminded me of every now and then, when a disaster is avoided (say a tree falling into someone's home, and missing a person by inches) to have someone say "You can't tell me there is no God!" I have to wonder "So, all the other people who *have* died, many being Christians, could *they* tell you there is no God?"
Posted by: Eric | March 31, 2008 at 12:17 PM
Try cursing Allah - it's much more fun and comes with some exciting perks and challenges.
Posted by: JustaDog | March 31, 2008 at 12:46 PM
Curse and laugh your way to immortality! Now you too can "win against the holy spirit!"
Skepticism will help you cheat death! Like Edamaruku, you will be chuckling while the great gurus weep.
Act now! Find a god, and start doubting today. You'll know the happiness of having a target for petty resentments, too!
Posted by: Edward | March 31, 2008 at 03:08 PM
I could not please a guru or God by praising him, following him and flocking around him.
Will I ever be able to please any one by cursing him.
In both situations, if there is someone to laugh at is, it is me alone.
I CURSE A DOCTOR WHO COULD NOT GET ME RID OF MY AILMENT, FOR I BELIEVE NOW THAT HE WAS NOT A DOCTOR.HOW FOOL I WAS.
NOW READING MEDICAL BOOKS WILL HELP ME I NEVER KNEW.....................................................................................................................................................................................................................................
Posted by: Rakesh Bhasin | April 01, 2008 at 07:38 AM
if you repent now god will punish you with some voices for more than a year but you will be saved its a sinners prayeryou have to pray. i'm being punished right now for cursing on two occasions but too many times for being angry at him. Ask him for a sign and he will be there for you in the clouds trust me he is in everyone. Repentance is your key for not going to hell.
Posted by: Ross Berry | April 12, 2008 at 05:12 PM
you say you like punishment? hey, stick around and we'll be glad to punish you some more. but we don't trust those strange guys with funny voices up in the clouds who carry signs. and if you are selling keys to get out of hell, you had better lower the price down or you will be out of business in no time.
Posted by: oAt | April 12, 2008 at 08:07 PM
Tantra or Tantram is not like this foolish show by wooing by money hungry
priest in a TV show.. It is a very subtle science super sciecne.
this fool sanal edamaruku does not know what it is. if he really plays
with a Tantric he will be killed and for ignorant tantric folks
A real tantric will not do that just for his challenge. Sanal is a copy cat ten
years back he and his father use to copy others article and paste it in their
vernacular magazine
He is father and mother is from different religion he is having frustation
to his mother's great religion because she was not accepted by her parents
marrying his moron father that is the reason. so dont believe this fool.
Tantra is an ancient science Rationalism is the most foolish thing one can preach
I have one question to this fools who wants proof for everything
show your brains. then only I will believe that you have brains.
Posted by: Anonym | June 04, 2008 at 02:26 PM
You think God has done YOU wrong??? I could tell you stories that would make you cry your eyes out....the stuff he's done to me, I wouldn't do to a DOG!!! I haven't been to church in 4 years, and if I never go back, it will be too soon! He is a cruel heartless hateful MoFo!!!
Posted by: Jeff in Richmond VA | May 18, 2010 at 09:25 PM
I hate when people compare proving you have brains to proving that god exists. They aren't the same thing: one exists and one doesn't. I can prove that I have a brain, just give me the money to use an x-ray or whatever they use to see my brain. I don't have proof right now, but it is possible to get proof. But proving that god exists requires not money, but a miracle. And no I'm not talking about a once in a life time chance, like surviving something normally fatal or winning the lottery, that's just luck. I'm talking about doing something that isn't physically possible. Go die for three days, then come back to life with proof that you died, then I might believe you. Might. Otherwise, have a nice waste of your life worshipping [insert deity of your choice here].
Posted by: God's best friend, the athiest | May 01, 2011 at 08:05 PM
can i call off a swear to god that was meant for him please tell me
Posted by: chris estep | January 23, 2012 at 10:50 PM
you are right. it's fucking blind faith that people have in god. an example: girl meets a man n both decide to get married. girl says "thank you god for showing me the right man. you have answered my prayers." 1 year later they break up a month before their wedding because she catches him cheating. now she says "thank you god for showing me his true colours before the wedding. you have saved me! god you r great."
Posted by: Jenny | May 19, 2012 at 11:07 PM
This comment is due to be moderated by a moderator from the Church for the Churchless!!! Do you know how ridiculous that is? I wonder what other pathetic sites are parked to slow down the internet. Grow up.
Posted by: Denis McClean | August 08, 2012 at 11:46 AM
Denis, congratulations! Your comment has been moderated! Don't you feel special?
I'm proud to be in the company of other "pathetic sites" that moderate comments. Like the New York Times. Here's what you'll find if you leave a comment on one of their stories:
"Comments are moderated and generally will be posted if they are on-topic and not abusive."
Ditto with our local newspaper, which like many sites requires a Facebook log-in. Look around the Internet. I think you'll be surprised how many high quality "pathetic sites" moderate comments.
Posted by: Brian Hines | August 08, 2012 at 12:31 PM
Hey Brian, I want to talk to you privately, have you got an email address?
Posted by: GS | August 09, 2012 at 02:52 PM
GS, my email address is in the right sidebar of this blog.
Posted by: Brian Hines | August 11, 2012 at 11:13 AM
IF there is a God its a hateful, mean god cares for only its self and forces people to pray and beg like animals for crumbs it blesses the few dams the many To believe in a god makes me a damned soul In my life I can tell u its like hell no once have I ever felt or got help for a so called god to hate a god only thing that helps SATAN IS EASIER TO LOVE THEN GOD
Posted by: ROBERT KAIVER | August 16, 2012 at 01:57 PM
What would be loveable about a Satan?
Posted by: Roger | August 16, 2012 at 03:50 PM