« My inside look at RSSB books | Main | I’m an ignorant fool (happily) »

February 05, 2008

Comments

Feed You can follow this conversation by subscribing to the comment feed for this post.

Uh - why so many religious questions when we are suppose to have separation of Church and State?

Obama is a member of a pro-queer church and Clinton is her own church. So what?


VOTE FOR RON PAUL!

Glad to see you're still enjoying your ride on the Dawkins Express. I hope the train stops every now and then so you can get a glimpse of the real world, one that's free of political paranoia and spiritual extremism (of both the religious and scientism kind).

In the meantime, you might enjoy watching a trailer of the upcoming Ben Stein intelligent Design propaganda movie coming to theaters in 2 weeks. link: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xGCxbhGaVfE

Even if you disagree with his viewpoint, this movie is done in the Michael Moore vein, and it's already stirring up the blogosphere.

If you buy the popcorn, I'll get the drinks. :-)

Romney: "Freedom requires religion, just as religion requires freedom."

His speechwriters sure messed up on that one. They were trying to come up with a Kennedyesque "Ask not what your country can do for you, ask what you can do for your country." and failed miserably. Those types of lines are hard to come by. He's smarter than that and should have blown that one off, but went with it anyway. Nobody's perfect.

Yeah, Mormonism is pretty weird, but so is believing we can actually solve the health care mess via a subsidized government program. Just what we need. Long lines and poor service. I'd rather pay through the nose and have a better chance of getting competent treatment when I need it.

The voters will decide.

Marcel, thanks for sending the link to the Ben Stein trailer. As you surely expected, I found it ridiculous.

Stein misinterprets both science and intelligent design, which is why I and so many others find religious dogmatism so distasteful when it tries to subvert science.

Here's some of the errors in the trailer:

(1) Science doesn't consider that the universe or life evolved "by chance." Stein has no idea, obviously, about how evolution operates. Natural selection is anything but chancy. That's why we say "evolved" rather than "bounced around." It's a process of selecting the most adaptable genetic changes. I call that highly intelligent -- just not the product of an intelligent designer.

(2) The Discovery Institute has never, to my knowledge, published a single peer-reviewed scientific paper. Critics of evolution have every opportunity to present evidence showing Darwin is full of shit. But they can't do it. All they do is put forth ideas and concepts lacking objective support. This works in religion; it fails in science.

(3) Over half of Americans believe in biblical creationism. A good share of our presidential candidates do. Unfortunately, creationism and intelligent design isn't a minority opinion being trampled on by an oppressive scientific establishment. It's the majority (and inaccurate) world view of the American public. Like the so-called "War on Christmas," this trailer tries to make the case for religious views being threatened, while actually it is scientific truth.

Thanks for your kind words about my ABC Who's Counting column on the irreligious questions. You might (or might not) also find my new book, Irreligion, to be of interest. More information about it can be found here: http://www.math.temple.edu/paulos/irrel-revs.html
Best, John Allen Paulos
PS Nice site

Right-On Brian !!! Yo tellin it like it is. I am so damn sick of these religious nuts, and especially when some of them try to inject their bizarre religious illusions into the political arena or upon the supposedly secular state.


I hate to ruffle your feathers,Brian, but you have not kept up to date with all the debate and polemic that has been going on over Darwinian evolution. This debate and challenge is coming from evolution bioligiist themselves.

Darwin's theories created a basic framework that worked for its time, but with all the new knowledge we have about cells, tissues and quantum elements, his theories are fraying at the seams and starting to show major gaps.

Suggesting an intelligent design doesn't always imply a religious explanation to a cosmic causation theory. You just interpret it that way since you naturally become rabid at the first sniff (real or not) of religion.

Like Dawkins, you frame all your arguments as a battle between science and religion (The Abrahamic flavor), just so your dogmatic cry against their dogma can sound more rational.

Denying that there is a bias in academia to any idea, religious or not, that differs from the prevailing paradigm is just plain denialism.

Do you disagree with Ben Stein in saying that a university should be a place for open debate of all ideas?

Darwinian evolution is not a solid idea in the least. I'm not suggesting that it's wrong, I believe in evolution, but it is an incomplete theory. It just doesn't add up. Saying that it does without talking to the real debate is negligent and a misrepresentation of the truth.

A real "skeptic" would do some research before making wide sweeping comments that are simply unfounded. For a good summary of the debate at hand, you can go here -->
http://michaelprescott.typepad.com/michael_prescotts_blog/2008/02/building-a-bett.html

I also forgot to send you the link to a very telling Seattle Times article on the subject of Neo-Darwinism. It is written by a couple of folks from the Discovery Institute, but the data in the article is verifiable.

Besides, it would be wrong of you to paint the discovery Institute like a conglomerate of conservative religious zealots. It just isn't so.

Here it is --> http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/701385/posts


Verify your Comment

Previewing your Comment

This is only a preview. Your comment has not yet been posted.

Working...
Your comment could not be posted. Error type:
Your comment has been saved. Comments are moderated and will not appear until approved by the author. Post another comment

The letters and numbers you entered did not match the image. Please try again.

As a final step before posting your comment, enter the letters and numbers you see in the image below. This prevents automated programs from posting comments.

Having trouble reading this image? View an alternate.

Working...

Post a comment

Comments are moderated, and will not appear until the author has approved them.

Your Information

(Name is required. Email address will not be displayed with the comment.)

Welcome


  • Welcome to the Church of the Churchless. If this is your first visit, click on "About this site--start here" in the Categories section below.
  • HinesSight
    Visit my other weblog, HinesSight, for a broader view of what's happening in the world of your Church unpastor, his wife, and dog.
  • BrianHines.com
    Take a look at my web site, which contains information about a subject of great interest to me: me.
  • Twitter with me
    Join Twitter and follow my tweets about whatever.
  • I Hate Church of the Churchless
    Can't stand this blog? Believe the guy behind it is an idiot? Rant away on our anti-site.