Comments on A memory of Roland DeVries, the man who churched meTypePad2006-12-14T06:07:58ZBrian Hineshttps://hinessight.blogs.com/church_of_the_churchless/tag:typepad.com,2003:https://hinessight.blogs.com/church_of_the_churchless/2006/12/a_memory_of_rol/comments/atom.xml/Blogger Brian commented on 'A memory of Roland DeVries, the man who churched me'tag:typepad.com,2003:6a00d83451c0aa69e201b8d2c5fd4d970c2017-12-09T22:30:47Z2017-12-09T22:30:49ZBlogger Brianhttp://profile.typepad.com/brihinesUncle Bernie, thanks for the compliment. This is the nicest thing anyone has said about me today. Well, actually your...<p>Uncle Bernie, thanks for the compliment. This is the nicest thing anyone has said about me today. Well, actually your comment is the ONLY thing anyone has said about me today, so you win my thanks by default.</p>Uncle Bernie commented on 'A memory of Roland DeVries, the man who churched me'tag:typepad.com,2003:6a00d83451c0aa69e201b8d2c5fc6a970c2017-12-09T22:12:53Z2017-12-10T02:28:14ZUncle BernieHines- you are right. You are not special. You are a douchebag.<p>Hines- you are right. You are not special. You are a douchebag. </p>Yvette commented on 'A memory of Roland DeVries, the man who churched me'tag:typepad.com,2003:6a00d83451c0aa69e200d8351659ec69e22007-02-06T05:14:00Z2007-08-21T12:26:42ZYvetteRoland Devries. Glorious among men. I wish all among you who knew him and are writing about him here could...<p>Roland Devries. Glorious among men.<br />
I wish all among you who knew him and are writing about him here could have seen him with your third eye opened. Your words would be the opposite of what I read on this site.<br />
If anyone has real knowledge, the truth about his last days in human form, please post. I have heard no news.</p>Howard commented on 'A memory of Roland DeVries, the man who churched me'tag:typepad.com,2003:6a00d83451c0aa69e200d834cff64253ef2006-12-18T06:49:44Z2007-08-19T23:56:39ZHowardBrian wrote: "I heard from a friend that Roland DeVries died last Saturday, supposedly at 4:00 am when he got...<p>Brian wrote: "I heard from a friend that Roland DeVries died last Saturday, supposedly at 4:00 am when he got up to meditate."</p>
<p>I never buy these apochryphal stories about satangis having deaths with spiritual overtones. Mr. De Vries had been suffering from alzheimers for years so there is a good chance he no longer even knew how to tell time let alone remember to meditate. </p>
<p>In the RSSB books it states that Tulsi Sahid had to be carried around on a disciple's shoulders because his attention would no longer go below the waist. Reality is he probably had a stroke. </p>
<p>Mr. Babani, who used to give satsang for Charan Singh for many years started to show signs of faltering ablities when he gave satsang and did not know how to finish sentences he had started. He was diagnosed with alzheimers. In the old days they would have simply said his attention was so absorbed in the shabd that it interfered with his ability to speak. </p>
<p>Once while I was at Dera Gurinder said that he once asked Charan Singh about all the miracle stories that he had heard. Charan Singh told him that the disciples had made them all up. The laws of nature apply to everyone, and Gurinder and Charan Singh would both agree with this. So, I doubt this is how Roland died. His death was probably not so glamourous. I hope he ended up where he wanted to be. </p>
<p>Howard </p>Pam Holten commented on 'A memory of Roland DeVries, the man who churched me'tag:typepad.com,2003:6a00d83451c0aa69e200d8350543e869e22006-12-18T01:26:23Z2007-08-19T23:51:35ZPam HoltenBrian, May I echo your sentiment? - "Roland, Thank you for being you"<p>Brian,<br />
May I echo your sentiment? - "Roland, Thank you for being you"</p>Napoleon commented on 'A memory of Roland DeVries, the man who churched me'tag:typepad.com,2003:6a00d83451c0aa69e200d834cf230d53ef2006-12-14T19:03:32Z2007-08-19T22:08:35ZNapoleonhttp://radhasoamis.freeyellow.com/Dear Brian, Dear Brian, One of my most shocking moments was when I was talking to Rick Ross. The major...<p>Dear Brian, Dear Brian,</p>
<p>One of my most shocking moments was<br />
when I was talking to Rick Ross. The<br />
major cult buster on the internet.</p>
<p>I realized he was not in this game for the same reasons as you and I. His motives were<br />
extremely self motivated. Yet, no doubt he<br />
will help thousands of people. For the same reason, Dave has helped thousands.</p>
<p>Yet, you and I are different. We were 'true seakers'. We are after truth, no matter how<br />
bad the truth hurts.</p>
<p>We have the same sickness. TRUTH. We are<br />
so crazy, we will tell the truth even if they burn us alive. Even if people piss<br />
on our graves. Even if people defame us.</p>
<p>Since we are both in the same boat<br />
and nobody could possibly like us,<br />
would you mind if I buy you a shot<br />
of Jack Daniels in the next world,<br />
(should we be so lucky that it exists)<br />
.</p>Napoleon commented on 'A memory of Roland DeVries, the man who churched me'tag:typepad.com,2003:6a00d83451c0aa69e200d8350478d369e22006-12-14T18:40:03Z2007-08-19T23:57:41ZNapoleonhttp://radhasoamis.freeyellow.com/Brian, You will find your greatest disapointment in exsatsangis. They may be smarter, but they will resent you for having...<p>Brian,<br />
You will find your greatest disapointment<br />
in exsatsangis. They may be smarter,<br />
but they will resent you for having<br />
taken away their cherished delusions.</p>
<p>A good cult buster knows he will be<br />
crusified by the satsangis. But, even worse<br />
by the exsatsangis.</p>Napoleon commented on 'A memory of Roland DeVries, the man who churched me'tag:typepad.com,2003:6a00d83451c0aa69e200d835046f6169e22006-12-14T16:47:51Z2007-08-19T23:39:55ZNapoleonhttp://radhasoamis.freeyellow.com/http://radhasoamis.freeyellow.com/ Hi Brian, I was initiated by Roland in early '70's in Riverside. I also read David Lane's stuff om...<p><a href="http://radhasoamis.freeyellow.com/" rel="nofollow">http://radhasoamis.freeyellow.com/</a></p>
<p><br />
Hi Brian,<br />
I was initiated by Roland in early '70's<br />
in Riverside. I also read David Lane's stuff<br />
om RS Studies. Just read where he saw Roland's children in Wild Oats in Long Beach.<br />
Oddly enough one of my banks, Indy Mac Bank,<br />
is next door to it. If he ever sees a bright red Corvette outside, he will know<br />
I am in the bank. I live by Huntington Harbour and it is very odd how similar our lives have been.</p>
<p>I graduated from Calif. State University<br />
with a B.S. in Business Accounting where<br />
he is a professor now. We both went to Catholic school and lived very close to each other. Both went to Boddhi Tree<br />
and knew all the same gurus. Read the same books. We both have identical opinions<br />
on why Radhasoami is a scam, although we<br />
disagree on why we agree . Radha Soami<br />
Tradition was my favorite book. Faqir Chand<br />
was astonishing. I am also agnostic.</p>
<p>By the way, Suzuki has had some of the worst scandals. Read Dark Zen website.<br />
He was very much like Rajneesh, even to the<br />
similar yoga. Try quoting Ramesh Balsekar,<br />
he has very few scandals. Alan Watts was good, even though a wino.</p>
<p>"Give a savage a watch ...... and<br />
he believes it has a soul."<br />
Napoleon Bonaparte</p>
<p>Regarding 'good men'. It reminds me of the documentary Civil War. A confederate woman writes in her diary, about Robert E. Lee,<br />
"He was a good and noble man. But ....<br />
it seems good men do the most harm to this world."</p>