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December 24, 2005


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Yes, you would be hard pressed to find a Christian clergy person or Catholic priest who recognizes the non-dual reality that Meister Eckhart spoke of (although I have met several Catholic sisters who are very savy). But, read St. John; it's all right there.

And this is Meister Eckhart less mystically:
"The nearness of God and the soul makes no distinction in truth. The same knowing in which God knows Himself is the knowing of every detached spirit, and no other. The soul takes her being immediately from God. Therefore 'God is nearer to the soul than she is to herself,' and therefore God is in the ground of the soul with all His Godhead."

This is from the poet Rumi:

In The Arc Of Your Mallet

Don't go anywhere without me.
Let nothing happen in the sky apart from me, or on the ground,
in this world or that world, without my being in its happening.

Vision, see nothing I don't see.
Language, say nothing.
The way the night knows itself with the moon, be that with me.
Be the rose nearest to the thorn that I am.

I want to feel myself in you when you taste food,
in the arc of your mallet when you work,
when you visit friends,
when you go up on the roof by yourself at night.

There's nothing worse than to walk out along the street without you.
I don't know where I'm going.
You're the road, and the knower of roads,
more than maps, more than love.

Job does emotional judo when confronted by God's inquiry, because the universe literally realizes the need of God for Job. There is no separation from the Godhead, there is only identity. The creator is the only creator, and is the creator of all. The Rumi and Mclachlan poems are the beloved and the lover speaking with the same voice; Eckhart posits that there is only one eye beholding the seat of being; and the Book of Job cuts through the theological questions synthesized in the Manichean heresy: the material and the spiritual are identical, and it is the supposition of the "opposer" that inserts evil into the apprehendable world. We doubt God as and when God doubts us. We are separated from God as and when God is separated from us. We have the power to love God, in the same eternal grace with which we beg God to love us.

Eckhart also says more succinctly in one sermon we should love God as 'a non-person, a non-Spirit, as a bright One, with no duality.' This is because in Eckhart's view any idea we create of God, especially that of the rather childish idea of a creator sitting in heaven on a throne ruling the cosmos, is a human creation and not God, the One beyond all names, concepts and ideas. In this respect Eckhart is very similar to Plotinus, who often speaks in similar terms about the One.

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