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November 27, 2004

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"Consider the delicious irony. And bullshit. Christianity, a religion that supposedly is founded on love, is up in arms at the prospect of hate crime legislation being passed. If this isn't enough to make you an atheist, or at least an agnostic, what is?"

Nowhere near enough pal, its got to be real factual evidence like that which points to the begining of the universe 15 billion years ago, the diversity of life on this planet thru evolution by natural select, & good old reason & observation.
Thats enough for me personaly to reject religion.

Rick Warren believes that the Bible is the inspired word of God. To him there is no doubt that it is the truth. If there is no doubt then, as far as he is concerned, it is fact. A stated fact doesn't need to be preceded by "I believe".

If Christianity isn't the truth then it doesn't matter, if it is, it matters alot.

In either case, The Bible is full of words live by.

And a little tip to Sloan there; Christianity isn't founded on love. It is founded on the belief that Jesus is the son of God.

I'm with Mr. Warren on that one.

"a stated fact", you say? bullshit i say. you are preachin up the wrong tree here weening.

when it comes to the kind of same old same old religious shit you are claiming as "fact"... you need to put it up, or shut it up.

myself, well i quite like jesus and his story... but i damn sure hate bible thumpin preachers like you. present your "facts", or take a hike.


If Christianity isn't the truth then it actually does matter, quite a bit in fact.

If Christianity isn't the truth, then the Children's Crusade was a horrific act of manslaughter, and the crusades in general were wars fought for the privilege of proving "Our beliefs are right!" -- That's pride, not godliness.

If Christianty isn't the truth then everyone who persuades others to those beliefs are indeed the very same "stumbling blocks" the good book warns readers about. Spreading lies, like a mind virus, robbing human beings of their quality of life and giving people the self-appointed (but pretending it comes from God-appointed) right to bully, steal from and kill others.

More blood has been spilled in the name of God than anything else in recorded human history.

Personally, my ancestors were forced from Spain during the Spanish Inquisition, done in the name of God. Generations later my grandmother and grandfather were forced to flee Morocco because relatives of theirs were murdered by Christians in a pogrom style attack, just because they were Jews living in a Jewish community.

Religion sucks, and fundementalist religions suck the most --they suck our life and our humanity right out of us, leaving us behaving like animals, beasts, pretending we are holy, justifying our arrogance. And, allowing a few charismatic sociopaths to run our lives for their own greedy benefit.

Amen.

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