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June 08, 2017

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The facebook page is hilarious. (In a very tea-party voice): "Salem Bridge Solutions is just a bunch of selfish welfare queens who want all of the rest of the hard working citizens of our city to shell out millions and millions of our hard earned tax dollars to make their lives easier and pay for the mistakes they made"

I'm new to salem, but honestly I can't figure out why you're so opposed to adding a bridge. Yes the cost is high, but EVERY TIME I want to go to points west of Salem, I am stuck on that G-D bridge. it's nightmarish to merge and a pain in the butt to sit and sit and sit. I see that adding lanes to both bridges could be a solution, but we definitely need SOME solution. Tolls are only one way to pay for bridges - what about actually paying for parking in downtown? That would generate a lot of income, I'd imagine.

I have lived in West Salem right at the added lane on Glen Creek since 1975. The Idea that while home building in the hundreds and new apartments are on the agenda Wallace Road is grid locked every day during peak hours. I nearly get run over trying to get in and out of my driveway. I am retired so I can choose the time I wish to drive out for the most part, but this I know. Every person who gets a new drivers license will have a car - every family will have 2 or more cars. Unless the prospect of flying cars is in the 20 year plan - WE NEED ANOTHER BRIDGE. i DON'T KNOW THE DETAILS OF IT but it has been studied spending thousands of dollars already. Why aren't we smart enough to figure out a solution. And while we are at it why not finish the re-surfacing project on the Center Street Bridge. Count me as a selfish welfare queen. Give us a solution.

Talk about fact-free propaganda, Your rant brings nothing of value to the table. In the first place, a span does not necessarily equal a bridge. A bridge supposes enabling people/traffic to go back and forth across the obstacle. So, in fact there is only one vehicular bridge encompassing two spans. Now, if Salem and ODOT decided to change vehicle flow on Center and Marion streets to accommodate 2-way traffic (this would also require changes to at least Commercial, Liberty, and High streets) as well as the approaches on Hwy 22 and Wallace Rd. on the west side (not likely "relatively low-cost" regardless of what anyone says), one could more honestly say there are two vehicular bridges. In the second place, adding a lane to each span will actually do little to alleviate traffic issues since neither the surface streets on both sides of the river nor Hwy 22 between Wallace Rd and Rosewood (not Rosemont) by Capital Manor can be modified to accommodate the additional lanes without dramatic destruction of property, especially downtown. Even then such changes are not worth the cost. While the bottom line amount might be less than that of an additional bridge, there is no way that the return on investment (ROI) comes close to the value of the new bridge crossing the river from the Parkway.

Frankly I see not comparison to the current bridge issue and the southern "wall" proposed by President Trump and see no value in unnecessarily facilitating and spreading political division. Fracturing doesn't help your cause. I got an email by your Bridge Solutions group and came to get the other side, not feel threatened, frustrated or drawn into another issue altogether by bad attitude. So to the point, did ODOT rate the bridges, Center St and Marion St, as functionally obsolete? If so, and probably either way, and without need of and before visiting your "snarky" blog, I recommended to Rep. Schrader, the reinforcement and possibly widening of each as you suggest. Just sayin,' I have been an Oregon resident for all of my 62 years, am well educated AND rural by choice, and we are not all dumb, lacking common-sense or led astray. In fact, the problem of over-crowding on the Salem bridges was not a big issue and well managed prior to 2014-15. So before you decide "snarky" is "in" maybe you should ask yourselves, How long have you lived here? Where are you from? and Why didn't you leave the hurtful, unproductive attitude where you came from, when you came here to start a new, better life?

Vicki, I moved to Salem in 1977. So I've been here for 41 years. I don't have a "hurtful, unproductive" attitude. I want to make Salem a better place to live, just as I did when I moved here from Portland many years ago.

The Center Street bridge is slated to be seismically reinforced so it will stand up in a major earthquake. So that takes away one reason for a new bridge. And the Salem City Council has voted to work on various ways to reduce rush hour congestion without building a new bridge. That should take away the other main reason to build a Third Bridge.

So what is the reason for spending half a billion dollars, or much more with financing costs and inflation, on a Third Bridge? I can't think of a reason.

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