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May 29, 2018

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So, did Hillary's lies bother you? http://www.politifact.com/personalities/hillary-clinton/statements/byruling/false/ How about Bill's? I think this is a partisan issue. And if Trump was telling the same lie over and over is each one counted as a new one? Is he lying in some cases or just wrong? Some of the lies I've heard others quote just seem a different view of the same thing. I voted for Hillary knowing she was also a liar. What was our choice as it was six of one and half dozen of the other. I've heard people say Obama lied when he said you could keep your insurance only you could not. Was he lying or wrong? I bet your view of it depends on your partisan view...

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"* So, did Hillary's lies bother you *"

IMO Trump's rank far higher on the "liar, liar, pants on fire" index.
They're mostly 5-alarm too: "Obama wasn't born in the US", "that
sicko 'O' was wiretapping me", "I saw thousands of Muslims in
Jersey City cheering as the Towers came down", "Hey, that doesn't
sound like my voice on the Access Hollywood tape", "Stormy, er,
Ms. Clifford, is lying...". etc. So many lies...

Of course, we all embellish a little (or alot) for dramatic effect, or
perhaps we mis-hear or mis-interpret or, even at times, are mis-informed,
or just plain deluded but plow right ahead. Yet most feel a bit
unsettled when they sense they should be reaching for a fire hose.
,
A little voice whispers to us and we at least throw in a qualification
or disclaimer, especially when we're really not sure at all. We hear our
better angels and admit we were wrong when a correction comes.
At our best, we apologize and laugh at ourselves for the lapse... instead
of doubling down, or deflecting, or blaming someone else.

I'm not sure Trump ever does that... or if he's capable of it any more.

People are so obsessed with their hatred of Trump that they actually go through everything he said looking for lies, or what they interpret as a lie, and the Washington Compost actually pays them to do it! Why not pay them to find all the wasteful budget excesses in various govt. departments and report on that?

Trump is prone to hyperbole. It's his style.. "This is going to be the biggest, the best, the greatest, so amazing, fantastic, incredible. So, as Rain said, I think this is partisan. I mean, if Trump found a cure for cancer, the media would say he failed because he didn't also find a cure for heart disease, strokes and MS. They will never give him a break. He isn't their boy. He wasn't supposed to win. They went all in for Hillary and he still won. They can't understand how a crude, sophomoric lout whose lack of decorum, dignity and mmanners could win the election. How could he? " It must have been the Russians who got him in. This is impossible!"

Conservative-thinking people have tried dignity. There could not have been a man of more quiet dignity than George W. Bush as he suffered the outrageous lies and politically motivated hatreds that undermined his presidency.

We tried statesmanship. Could there be another human being on this earth who so desperately prized “collegiality” as John McCain?

We tried propriety – has there been a more mild mannered, polite human being ever than Mitt Romney?

And the results were always the same. This is because, while we were playing by the rules of dignity, collegiality and propriety, the Left has been, for the past 60 years, engaged in a knife fight where the only rules are those of Saul Alinsky and the Chicago mob.

I don’t find anything “dignified,” “collegial” or “proper” about Barack Obama’s lying about what went down on the streets of Ferguson in order to ramp up racial hatreds because racial hatreds serve the Democratic Party. I don’t see anything “dignified” in lying about the deaths of four Americans in Benghazi and imprisoning an innocent filmmaker to cover your tracks. I don’t see anything “statesman-like” in weaponizing the IRS to be used to destroy your political opponents and any dissent. Yes, Obama was “articulate” and “polished” but in no way was he in the least bit “dignified,” “collegial” or “proper.”

The Left has been engaged in a war against America since the rise of the Children of the ‘60s. To them, it has been an all-out war where nothing is held sacred and nothing is seen as beyond the pale.. It has been a war they’ve fought with violence, the threat of violence, demagoguery and lies from day one – the violent take-over of the universities – till today. The problem is that, through these years, the Left has been the only side fighting this war. While the Left has been taking a knife to anyone who stands in their way, the Right has continued to act with dignity, collegiality and propriety. With Donald Trump, this all has come to an end. Donald Trump is America ’s first wartime president in the Culture War.

During wartime, things like “dignity” and “collegiality” simply aren’t the most essential qualities one looks for in their warriors. Ulysses Grant was a drunk whose behavior in peacetime might well have seen him drummed out of the Army for conduct unbecoming. Had Abraham Lincoln applied the peacetime rules of propriety and booted Grant, the Democrats might well still be holding their slaves today. Lincoln rightly recognized that, “I cannot spare this man. He fights.”

General George Patton was a vulgar-talking.. In peacetime, this might have seen him stripped of rank. But, had Franklin Roosevelt applied the normal rules of decorum then, Hitler and the Socialists would barely be five decades into their thousand-year Reich.

Trump is fighting. And what’s particularly delicious is that, like Patton standing over the battlefield as his tanks obliterated Rommel’s, he’s shouting, “You magnificent bastards, I read your book!”

That is just the icing on the cake, but it’s wonderful to see that not only is Trump fighting, he’s defeating the Left using their own tactics. That book is Saul Alinsky’s "Rules for Radicals" – a book so essential to the Leftists’ war against America that it is and was the playbook for the entire Obama administration and the subject of Hillary Clinton’s senior thesis. It is a book of such pure evil, that, just as the rest of us would dedicate our book to those we most love or those to whom we are most indebted, Alinsky dedicated his book to Lucifer.

Trump’s tweets may seem rash and unconsidered but, in reality, he is doing exactly what Alinsky suggested his followers do. First, instead of going after “the fake media” — and they are so fake that they have literally gotten every single significant story of the past 60 years not just wrong, but diametrically opposed to the truth, from the Tet Offensive to Benghazi, to what really happened on the streets of Ferguson, Missouri — Trump isolated CNN.. He made it personal.

Then, just as Alinsky suggests, he employs ridicule which Alinsky described as “the most powerful weapon of all.”... Most importantly, Trump’s tweets have put CNN in an untenable and unwinnable position. ... They need to respond. This leaves them with only two choices. They can either “go high” (as Hillary would disingenuously declare of herself and the fake news would disingenuously report as the truth) and begin to honestly and accurately report the news or they can double-down on their usual tactics and hope to defeat Trump with twice their usual hysteria and demagoguery. The problem for CNN (et al.) with the former is that, if they were to start honestly reporting the news, that would be the end of the Democratic Party they serve.

It is nothing but the incessant use of fake news (read: propaganda) that keeps the Left alive. Imagine, for example, if CNN had honestly and accurately reported then-candidate Barack Obama’s close ties to foreign terrorists (Rashid Khalidi), domestic terrorists (William Ayers & Bernardine Dohrn), the mafia (Tony Rezko) or the true evils of his spiritual mentor, Jeremiah Wright’s church. Imagine if they had honestly and accurately conveyed the evils of the Obama administration’s weaponizing of the IRS to be used against their political opponents or his running of guns to the Mexican cartels or the truth about the murder of Ambassador Christopher Stevens and the Obama administration’s cover-up.

So, to the Leftist Progressives — and the #NeverTrumpers as well — do I wish we lived in a time when our president could be “collegial” and “dignified” and “proper”? Of course I do. These aren’t those times. This is war. And it’s a war that the Left has been fighting without opposition for the past 50 years. So, say anything you want about this president - I get it - he can be vulgar, he can be crude, he can be undignified at times. I don’t care.

I can’t spare this man. He fights for America as the Founders intended it to be.

You forgot to credit your copying of others work tucson. Part of your response is from here:

https://townhall.com/columnists/evansayet/2017/07/13/he-fights-n2354580?amp=true

NW, Yes, I lazily copy-pasted and posted the comment at the end of what i wrote from an email sent to me. I thought it was pretty good but I don't hold Bush, Romney and McCain in as high an esteem as the writer apparently does.

Here's another email I copy-pasted. I think my friend embellished a few of the points. It's from Breibart.com ....

This President is becoming GREAT !

The Great President Trump, it's only been 15 months, but look at all this . . .
● ISIS Gone in IRAQ
● Illegal immigration down 40%
● DJI up 6,500+ (Yes, even with the "OMG THE MARKET HAS DROPPED",
it's still up Yuge!)
● 3.3 Million+ jobs created already.
● Home builder confidence at a 15 year high
● Peace Breaking out in Korea (talks with Un are happening)
● Wages Rise at Strongest Pace in Nearly a Decade
● 4% economic growth forecast. (5% forecast by Larry Kudlow)
● Black unemployment at all time low
● Hispanic unemployment at all time low
● Women's wages at an all-time high
● Corporate profits at 13 year high
● Unemployment at 18 year low
● Iran BlTCH SLAPPED with Full Sanctions
● Freed 4 hostages from North Korea
● Reversed everything obama did except getting rid of obamashitcare, but that is coming soon

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