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August 06, 2017


Ditto. I met the man 6 months later over a couple of days, then a month in 1983. Spend a few decades within the teachings. And am now happily following my own path. They almost seem like 'the good old days' to me now.

Hi Brian!

Nothing is supernatural. Just outside our experience.

But if we are all connected, can we find communion with a higher power?

We are hard wired to feel the presence of a greater benevolence. Especially in moments of quiet reverence.

It is natural and healthy, and beautiful all of its own.

Beyond that, who knows? But maybe that IS the higher power and no other words are needed?

If you feel an intense joy witnessing the awesomeness in a moment of a beautiful Oregon late summer day, or witnessing the awesome expense of stars in an internal experience in space, both are, for those wired for it, just wonderful moments in the human experience.

Then, what matters but to worship in thankfulness that reality, however it comes to us, expand on that, enjoy such innocent and uplifting experiences as rare gifts?

We are limited, so whatever we experience that is so beautiful to us becomes sacred, as it should.

Theology aside. As it should be.

"The big 'miracle' of my visit for me was that even though I wore contact lenses, I never got sand in my eyes."

—That's not a miracle, of course you wouldn't get sand in your eyes as they were protected and covered by your contact lenses!

Brian - Huzar certainly had those qualities as a father figure. I lost my father when I was 7 years old so in many ways wanted that void filled by Huzar. I was 18 years old when Huzar passed away. I was gutted. I only saw him once when I was 9 years old holding my late mothers hand at the Dera. He smiled upon me. I do miss that. I am not sure why this present master leaves me feeling cold - the only memory I have of him is when he called me a "cheat" playing soccer at Haynes. I did nothing bad intentionally - i think. I stopped going to satsang a few years ago. Going made me feel lonely and yes I guess that's more to do with me. I don't really miss it as I believe why worry about anything - even though I'm initiated- Master probably doesn't even know who I am. if only I was a millionaire or good looking Bollywood star I would get attention lol. It's all fun. All the best!

I consider myself a die hard atheist ......
desperately in search of God.

Mathematics says it is a certainty a creator exists .....
The cosmological constant and the fact life itself,
over the eons, would produce a creator from evolution,
even if there had originally been none.

But, if God exists, this does not mean He has given men
an eternal soul.

Logic predicts all men are ants ... and God tramples us under foot.

If Godmen existed ... they would come down to earth to save doves
and rabbits..


I have been reading this blog fora while - can someone please explain why Master's close family and friends are so rich? Is this gods grace or something I am missing. Surely money ceases to be of interest when you are seeking.

Let's see who answers this rather than debating wishy washy stuff! Amen

They are rich because dumb people give them money in exchange for bullshit.

Thanks D.r

It annoys me that so many people in the world are suffering due to poverty and hunger - and this Path condemns them by saying they are suffering due to their karma. The people who follow is path are told to forgive but what greater thing is there than helping the unfortunate. But instead RSSB lot look down upon these souls - there is massive double standards. Surely feeding children in third world countries who have no parents is an act greater than anything. Not against the rich if the money is earned by honest means if such a thing exists. This God we are told to reach is a pretty unforgiving God! I say! They say he is Love- really? If the rich in that group did something worthwhile with their money - I would really say wow!!! Money is the true Satguru!

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