Comments on When a supposedly godly guru gets sick, what does this mean?TypePad2013-12-07T02:29:31ZBrian Hineshttps://hinessight.blogs.com/church_of_the_churchless/tag:typepad.com,2003:https://hinessight.blogs.com/church_of_the_churchless/2013/12/when-a-supposedly-godly-guru-gets-sick-what-does-this-mean/comments/atom.xml/Juan commented on 'When a supposedly godly guru gets sick, what does this mean?'tag:typepad.com,2003:6a00d83451c0aa69e201b7c8d47016970b2017-02-10T15:39:36Z2017-02-11T02:43:38ZJuanBabaji Don Gurinder Singh Dhillon was admitted in Fortis Hospital, Mohali because of Food Poisoning. The doctors have advised him...<p>Babaji Don Gurinder Singh Dhillon was admitted in Fortis Hospital, Mohali because of Food Poisoning. The doctors have advised him One week rest, so his programme of satsang of 12th Feb. 2017 is cancelled. </p>
<p>There are rumors that he will be leaving for Singapore.</p>David W commented on 'When a supposedly godly guru gets sick, what does this mean?'tag:typepad.com,2003:6a00d83451c0aa69e201b8d20a957b970c2016-07-28T22:38:40Z2016-07-30T21:36:19ZDavid W"X", I hope you weren't replying to me there. Because if you were, you are a loser.<p>"X",</p>
<p>I hope you weren't replying to me there.</p>
<p>Because if you were, you are a loser.</p>X commented on 'When a supposedly godly guru gets sick, what does this mean?'tag:typepad.com,2003:6a00d83451c0aa69e201b7c87f1b00970b2016-07-24T20:05:36Z2016-07-25T02:48:28ZXFuck you okay?<p>Fuck you okay?</p>david r commented on 'When a supposedly godly guru gets sick, what does this mean?'tag:typepad.com,2003:6a00d83451c0aa69e201bb090f4bb8970d2016-06-10T18:57:04Z2016-06-11T02:05:36Zdavid r God is not a guru. God doesn't get sick. Hope that answers the question.<p>God is not a guru. God doesn't get sick.</p>
<p>Hope that answers the question.</p>Juan commented on 'When a supposedly godly guru gets sick, what does this mean?'tag:typepad.com,2003:6a00d83451c0aa69e201b8d1f5775c970c2016-06-10T12:12:04Z2016-06-11T02:05:36ZJuanI remember GSD QnA where he said that no one can take anyone else's karmas. Maybe this applies to normal...<p>I remember GSD QnA where he said that no one can take anyone else's karmas. <br />
Maybe this applies to normal people and not to Saints/ True Masters. They can do whatever they like, there is no restriction on them.<br />
I would try to put here a Q&A, more or less relating to Karmas, of this year in April in Malaga, Spain.<br />
Q- Babaji, I have children staying with me from my first wife with whom I divorced, and now my marriage with my second wife is also causing big troubles and she is not behaving properly. <br />
A- You should try to make adjustments and live in harmony. <br />
Q- But Babaji, inspite of changing her behaviour she wants a divorce, please bless her.<br />
A- What can I do in this?<br />
Q- Babaji, you are the one who has initiated me. You have to take care of the karmas<br />
A- So what if I have initiated you, I have to take your karmas. She has not initiated you that she is going to take your karmas. This is not a marriage counsellor office.<br />
This indicates that these Masters sometimes take karmas of their disciples, who knows? The mysterious ways of these Masters are beyond the comprehension of a normal mind.</p>Neon commented on 'When a supposedly godly guru gets sick, what does this mean?'tag:typepad.com,2003:6a00d83451c0aa69e201b8d1f46e87970c2016-06-08T15:53:40Z2016-06-09T22:48:22ZNeonI remember GSD QnA where he said that no one can take anyone else's karmas. But then he 2 questions...<p>I remember GSD QnA where he said that no one can take anyone else's karmas. But then he 2 questions later he said that we shouldn't beg since we take that persons karmas onto us.</p>Juan commented on 'When a supposedly godly guru gets sick, what does this mean?'tag:typepad.com,2003:6a00d83451c0aa69e201b7c869bb79970b2016-06-06T20:49:11Z2016-06-07T04:17:20ZJuanMy observation God took the Karmas of satsangis to make them comfortable and He suffers their karmas otherwise He is...<p>My observation God took the Karmas of satsangis to make them comfortable and He suffers their karmas otherwise He is Pious Soul. He is above from this world. </p>
<p>….These saints are kind and soft hearted and so much in love with the humanity that they take the karmas of their disciples and only a real Gurmukh can see it.</p>
<p>His words are full of Amrit which can turn any impossible work into possible. </p>
<p>….Nothing is impossible for these Masters but they would not go against the will of the Lord.<br />
</p>C. K. Kapoor commented on 'When a supposedly godly guru gets sick, what does this mean?'tag:typepad.com,2003:6a00d83451c0aa69e201bb090be6ad970d2016-06-04T05:33:01Z2016-06-05T01:27:35ZC. K. KapoorMy observation God took the Karmas of satsangis to make them comfortable and He suffers their karmas otherwise He is...<p>My observation God took the Karmas of satsangis to make them comfortable and He suffers their karmas otherwise He is Pious Soul. He is above from this world. His words are full of Amrit which can turn any impossible work into possible. C. K. Kapoor </p>D. D. commented on 'When a supposedly godly guru gets sick, what does this mean?'tag:typepad.com,2003:6a00d83451c0aa69e201bb07f1d6be970d2015-02-16T18:21:39Z2015-02-17T03:44:48ZD. D.Anybody considered that He may have been got at by the CIA?<p>Anybody considered that He may have been got at by the CIA?</p>One Initiated commented on 'When a supposedly godly guru gets sick, what does this mean?'tag:typepad.com,2003:6a00d83451c0aa69e201b7c74df61e970b2015-02-16T13:13:41Z2015-02-17T03:44:48ZOne Initiatedhttp://profile.typepad.com/oneinitiatedJust got the following info: 14th and 15th there were the Satsangs at Beas. Babaji delivered the Satsang on Sunday...<p>Just got the following info:</p>
<p>14th and 15th there were the Satsangs at Beas.<br />
Babaji delivered the Satsang on Sunday 15th Feb, 2015.<br />
At the end of the Satsang, Babaji said:<br />
"I've been told to not to travel much thus probably I won't travel much for the rest of the year.<br />
Everyone is welcome to come to Beas and attend the Satsang.<br />
Satsangs at Beas will continue."</p>
<p>~OI</p>Juan commented on 'When a supposedly godly guru gets sick, what does this mean?'tag:typepad.com,2003:6a00d83451c0aa69e201b8d0d7083c970c2015-02-15T22:58:19Z2015-02-16T03:12:04ZJuanHis satsangs abroad of Malaga in April and in Jakarta and one more place have been cancelled.<p>His satsangs abroad of Malaga in April and in Jakarta and one more place have been cancelled.</p>G.K. commented on 'When a supposedly godly guru gets sick, what does this mean?'tag:typepad.com,2003:6a00d83451c0aa69e201b8d0d6bfaa970c2015-02-15T12:15:43Z2015-02-15T18:55:55ZG.K.I heard Gurinder Singh has got cancer again and cancelled Satsangs. Some say he has left for Singapore. Is it...<p>I heard Gurinder Singh has got cancer again and cancelled Satsangs. Some say he has left for Singapore. Is it true? Anybody know more about it? </p>cc commented on 'When a supposedly godly guru gets sick, what does this mean?'tag:typepad.com,2003:6a00d83451c0aa69e201a511f352b1970c2014-08-09T16:29:24Z2014-08-09T23:37:48ZccAt Master's recent visit in Petaluma "Master"? You have a master? Are you a talking dog? Pretty funny.<p>At Master's recent visit in Petaluma</p>
<p>"Master"? You have a master? Are you a talking dog? Pretty funny.</p>Ray Ford commented on 'When a supposedly godly guru gets sick, what does this mean?'tag:typepad.com,2003:6a00d83451c0aa69e201a511f3244a970c2014-08-09T05:47:28Z2014-08-09T23:37:48ZRay FordAt Master's recent visit in Petaluma (July 23-24), someone said (paraphrasing), "...it is good to see you in good health....<p>At Master's recent visit in Petaluma (July 23-24), someone said (paraphrasing), "...it is good to see you in good health. You look well". He replied, "how did you expect me to look?" and he stuck out his eye and tongue like someone from Walking Dead. Pretty funny.</p>Premi commented on 'When a supposedly godly guru gets sick, what does this mean?'tag:typepad.com,2003:6a00d83451c0aa69e201a3fd42d1d7970b2014-08-08T14:24:04Z2014-08-09T02:49:59ZPremi If Jesus would like to stop his pain full death he could do it but he love God and want...<p>If Jesus would like to stop his pain full death he could do it but he love God and want to be in God wish. Saint and messengers do not interfere with God's planning. </p>One Initiated commented on 'When a supposedly godly guru gets sick, what does this mean?'tag:typepad.com,2003:6a00d83451c0aa69e201a73d7a4266970d2014-02-17T20:59:53Z2014-02-18T04:03:47ZOne InitiatedFeeling the love inside our heart is of utmost importance. Love is the only reason of the existence of everything...<p>Feeling the love inside our heart is of utmost importance.</p>
<p>Love is the only reason of the existence of everything and anything.</p>
<p>The only true physical form of love in the physical world is the true saint. They are the reflection of the Truth, the Shabd, the Naam or the Word.</p>
<p>As my lord says, as 777 repeats in most of his comments, 24x7 makes the big difference.</p>
<p>The sentiments in many comments are the results of the feeling of failure from the meditation. The thing is there is no such thing as failure in SantMat. It won't matter if we forget our Lord, Lord is not going to forget us. his Astral form is waiting for us with much more curiosity than us.<br />
It may have been 100s of 1000s of years and births we've been struggling, why can't we struggle just for another some 10s of years. All this chaos for every single initiate is going to end forever. Feel the love, feel the contentment, feel the "Santosh". It's going to be really amazing for everyone.</p>
<p>If one's super determined to realize it during their lifetime, it needs one greatest of the effort. It's not going to be easy. One thing to follow "Never giveup".<br />
But yes, many of us gave up... hear the audible life stream, hear to your inner conscience. <br />
Even if we do not want to spend time on meditation/satsang now, still let's help ourselves and make sure not even to think of taking a single byte of meat/egg. </p>
<p><br />
As repeated by Maharaj Ji numerous times,<br />
The only efforts are required to collect your passport, essential papers, ticket and climb the stairs and sit in the plane. The Captain of the plain knows every single bit that when to take off, at which speed and where to.</p>
<p><br />
Whether you are on the path or not, never ever abuse the saint. Everyone's going to realize the eternal beauty sooner than later. This life is all about 60/70/80 or 90 years, but it still is very less to be able realize the eternal if we know we have been waiting for this day since uncountable births in an unpredictable bodies.</p>
<p></p>
<p>regards.<br />
One Initiated.<br />
</p>777 commented on 'When a supposedly godly guru gets sick, what does this mean?'tag:typepad.com,2003:6a00d83451c0aa69e201a3fbc1995d970b2014-01-06T11:16:40Z2014-01-06T18:01:21Z777HiHi Yes - I wouldn't miss it ! I see it already :) 77777<p>HiHi</p>
<p>Yes - I wouldn't miss it !<br />
I see it already :)</p>
<p>77777</p>the9thGate commented on 'When a supposedly godly guru gets sick, what does this mean?'tag:typepad.com,2003:6a00d83451c0aa69e201a51069bd66970c2014-01-05T23:20:19Z2014-01-06T18:01:22Zthe9thGate777- Blessings to you and your positivity. May you live to see the dawn.<p>777- Blessings to you and your positivity. May you live to see the dawn. </p>777 commented on 'When a supposedly godly guru gets sick, what does this mean?'tag:typepad.com,2003:6a00d83451c0aa69e2019b0368a113970c2013-12-21T15:57:02Z2013-12-22T06:42:57Z7779thgate sais : If I could give God a human form I would want it to be a hot temptress...I...<p>9thgate sais :<br />
If I could give God a human form I would want it to be a hot temptress...I could meditate on that for hours...Sach Khand guaranteed baby please!</p>
<p>Consider it done<br />
A kind of third Eye chaturbate.com for spiritual starters ag EX-cers</p>
<p>When the cams will be 3 dimensional<br />
you will have dhyan like that<br />
From many SatGuru s , All genuine<br />
and women too</p>
<p>Read my lips</p>
<p>God bless You All</p>
<p>777</p>
<p>ps<br />
9th gate : you are the one who was sad for your parents<br />
isn't it -<br />
Y'r young and will witness the giant spectacle</p>the9thGate commented on 'When a supposedly godly guru gets sick, what does this mean?'tag:typepad.com,2003:6a00d83451c0aa69e2019b0279dd48970c2013-12-10T00:04:53Z2013-12-10T04:12:20Zthe9thGateIf I could give God a human form I would want it to be a hot temptress...I could meditate on...<p>If I could give God a human form I would want it to be a hot temptress...I could meditate on that for hours...Sach Khand guaranteed baby please!<br />
Back up option- someone in the Iron Man suit.<br />
When all Guru's are turban wearing Sikhs coming from India it becomes quite unoriginal. Get with the programme Sat Purush...us mortals have better imaginings!</p>Blogger Brian commented on 'When a supposedly godly guru gets sick, what does this mean?'tag:typepad.com,2003:6a00d83451c0aa69e2019b0273208e970d2013-12-09T17:35:27Z2013-12-09T17:35:30ZBlogger Brianhttp://profile.typepad.com/brihinesThe South Africa-related comments obviously don't fit with this topic. Off-topic conversations are OK up to a point, but then...<p>The South Africa-related comments obviously don't fit with this topic. Off-topic conversations are OK up to a point, but then they become distracting. </p>
<p>I'm not going to publish any more related to the history and current conditions in South Africa. Worthy subject to talk about, but not here.</p>Sukhbir Singh commented on 'When a supposedly godly guru gets sick, what does this mean?'tag:typepad.com,2003:6a00d83451c0aa69e2019b0271eb52970b2013-12-09T17:02:00Z2013-12-10T04:12:20ZSukhbir SinghSo when a disciple gets cancer, he/she is working out their own karma. But when "Master" gets cancer, he/she is...<p>So when a disciple gets cancer, he/she is working out their own karma.</p>
<p>But when "Master" gets cancer, he/she is taking on the disciples' karma. Fancy how that works. (You see, because the Guru has no karma's of his own since he is God in Human Form).</p>
<p>Kind of sucks doesn't it?</p>
<p>There goes that "heads I win, tails you lose" game I read about in the Satguru Handbook.</p>A Student of History commented on 'When a supposedly godly guru gets sick, what does this mean?'tag:typepad.com,2003:6a00d83451c0aa69e2019b02714bfc970c2013-12-09T16:52:00Z2013-12-10T04:12:20ZA Student of HistoryJesse: You condemn yourself out of your own mouth. I said nothing about the violence in S.A. being justified in...<p>Jesse:<br />
You condemn yourself out of your own mouth. I said nothing about the violence in S.A. being justified in any way. It's heartbreaking and appalling. But we live in a world of cause and effect. Violence always has a cause (anger, lust, greed, insanity) and an effect (more violence). </p>
<p>There is a reason S.A. is awash in violent criminality. Perhaps it's people like you who, even now, still want to see other people in hell, and wish horrific things to happen to other human beings. Your sick, violent "hoping" and "wishing" demonstrates my point exactly. There won't be true harmony and peace in S.A. or anywhere else, until the hypocritical haters, who wish for horrific things to happen to people who disagree with them, are gone to their graves.<br />
And BTW, read a book why don't you: Dutch slave-traders settled Cape Town in the mid 1600's, not a hundred years ago. </p>A Student of History commented on 'When a supposedly godly guru gets sick, what does this mean?'tag:typepad.com,2003:6a00d83451c0aa69e2019b0270fb39970c2013-12-09T16:38:22Z2013-12-10T04:12:20ZA Student of HistoryJune: I agree with you entirely. The history of humanity is a bloody one, no doubt. My only observation is...<p>June:<br />
I agree with you entirely. The history of humanity is a bloody one, no doubt. My only observation is that the people who have benefited from the violent conquests of their ancestors ought not to be finger pointing and absolving themselves now that the historically inevitable backlash has South Africa in the grip of violent criminality. It's going to take generations to clean up the mess left in the wake of apartheid, and the beneficiaries of that system should be the last to complain about it. It would be lovely if we could just convince the whole country to sit down and meditate their way to peace and harmony but unfortunately that's not the reality of the situation. Even at Dera I've seen the open hostility between white Afrikaners and black South Africans. While Huzur's visits to S.A. had a very positive effect I'm sure; it was Mandela (whom Jesse wants to see in hell) who was the instrument to bring about justice in a political system that legally held Indian "coloreds" like Huzur to be just another nigger.</p>A Student of History commented on 'When a supposedly godly guru gets sick, what does this mean?'tag:typepad.com,2003:6a00d83451c0aa69e2019b02712942970b2013-12-09T16:25:02Z2013-12-10T04:12:20ZA Student of HistoryObserver: These appalling statistics are in no way unique to South Africa. They are unique only to an age in...<p>Observer:<br />
These appalling statistics are in no way unique to South Africa. They are unique only to an age in which statistics are kept by modern means. How many people do you think died during the 400 years of the trans-Atlantic slave trade; men, women and children? The scholarly estimate is between 9 and 15 million. We'll never know but the trail of human bones on the ocean floor, along the shipping lanes between Africa and the New World, is still visible by satellite.</p>
<p> <br />
Rape? Look at old photos from the American slave holding states---see all those light skinned slave children? How'd that happen? Rape was institutionally considered the slave master's right. Young African women were routinely raped during the Middle Passage--- after all, a pregnant nigger wench was more valuable on the auction block-- Two for the price of one, Mister. And, ain't she purty.</p>
<p> <br />
Women and children have always been the first to suffer at the hands of men of all nations, during times of social upheaval. It's a horrifying but historically inevitable consequence in the wake of violent oppression, economic depression and genocidal suppression of one ethnic people at the hands of another. What you see in South African society today is a linear result of the dynamics put in play by the greedy, Dutch settlers who thought, Oh well, we can just take this land, subjugate these people and everything will be just fine--for us. But it's not just fine, is it?<br />
<br />
Centuries of brutal colonization of the African continent is going to take decades, if not centuries more to recover from the disruption of the natural, cultural and political evolution that should have been allowed to take place in Africa over the last 500 years. That Africa, and South Africa in particular, is in the immediate violent throes of societal rebirth is a direct result of the violent disruption wrought by centuries of colonial rape, murder and pillage. </p>
<p> I'm sure there are white South Africans anxious to just wash their hands of the blood in the streets now, and claim victim status in "their" beautiful country. But the country of South Africa was conceived in violence, flourished through violence and is now having to endure a violent criminality that will take generations to unlearn. It was inevitable; but without a powerful conciliator like Nelson Mandela the overthrow of apartheid would have been a gruesome battle to the death of the white oppressor. South Africans are right to thank their stars (as most do) that such a rational and powerful figure as Mandela was able to take over the reins of revolution and bring about a humanitarian, and relatively peaceful resolution to the overthrow of apartheid. It could have been much, much worse. </p>jesse commented on 'When a supposedly godly guru gets sick, what does this mean?'tag:typepad.com,2003:6a00d83451c0aa69e2019b026bbab8970d2013-12-09T11:21:58Z2013-12-10T04:12:20ZjesseA student of white guilt, I'm sorry but iv don't think Dutch greed from a century ago justifies someone raping...<p>A student of white guilt,</p>
<p>I'm sorry but iv don't think Dutch greed from a century ago justifies someone raping and killing today. It absolutely sickens me that you would say something like that and I'm not kidding, i hope horrific things happen to you. You deserve pain and suffering.</p>
<p>Here's a quote from your other hero, Ghandi</p>
<p> “Only a degree removed from the animal.” “Kaffirs are as a rule uncivilized - the convicts even more so. They are troublesome, very dirty and live almost like animals.” </p>
<p><br />
Jesse</p>june schlebusch commented on 'When a supposedly godly guru gets sick, what does this mean?'tag:typepad.com,2003:6a00d83451c0aa69e2019b0269e436970c2013-12-09T10:16:55Z2013-12-10T04:12:20Zjune schlebuschNow student of history, just a few facts.... First of all it was the Portuguese sailors who bravely faced The...<p>Now student of history, just a few facts.... First of all it was the Portuguese sailors who bravely faced The Unknown, in their little ships, to discover The See Route to India. Then the Dutch came and found a pastoral community, with no technology, just very content to live their lives tending their cattle. Nothing wrong with that by the way.Then the were the French,Germans and of course the English.... But then they had been conguered by the the Vikings so this entire world is nothing other than one conguest after another. My own ancestors were Serfs in Europe..... The Blacks here have a concept called Ubuntu, loosly translated means........We are all one, I am because of you, and you are because of me. All nations contribute something unigue to the collective and if we are now a global community we could not have achieve it without the history we have had. Just ask anyone where and how they would like to live and I guarantee it will be in a western democracy........ Just one other things perhaps the reason we all went in our droves to the east in the 60,S was that we where looking for a more gentle approach to life India is after all very passive.</p>an observer commented on 'When a supposedly godly guru gets sick, what does this mean?'tag:typepad.com,2003:6a00d83451c0aa69e2019b02678898970b2013-12-09T06:44:53Z2013-12-10T04:12:20Zan observerA student of history - this is how it is now South Africa - The rate of sexual violence in...<p>A student of history - this is how it is now South Africa -</p>
<p>The rate of sexual violence in South Africa is among the highest in the world.<br />
An estimated of 500,000 rape cases take place in the country, every year.<br />
While women's groups in South Africa estimate that a woman is raped every 26 seconds, the South African police estimates that a woman is raped every 36 seconds.<br />
South Africa has some of the highest incidences of child and infant rape in the world. <br />
In 2001, it was reported by the South African Police Service that children are the victims of 41 percent of all rapes reported in the country.<br />
Some cite a 400% increase in sexual violence against children in the decade preceding 2002. The largest increase in attacks was against children under seven.<br />
A third of the cases are committed by a family member or close relative.<br />
Around 50 people are murdered in South Africa each day.<br />
</p>A Student of History commented on 'When a supposedly godly guru gets sick, what does this mean?'tag:typepad.com,2003:6a00d83451c0aa69e2019b0267375a970b2013-12-09T06:14:31Z2013-12-10T04:12:20ZA Student of HistoryWell, Jesse, what goes around comes around, as they say. If the 17th century Dutch slave traders who founded Cape...<p><br />
Well, Jesse, what goes around comes around, as they say. If the 17th century Dutch slave traders who founded Cape Town hadn't been so greedy for Africa's land, diamonds and gold; if the Dutch government hadn't been in an Empire building frenzy, the Zulu and Bantu and Xhosa would have been able to socially and economically evolve and flourish as primitive European populations had to do. So, if it's a mess now Afrikaners have no one to blame but yourselves.<br />
You'll likely be dead and gone, but eventually South Africans will get their act together, despite the devastating cultural and ethnic setbacks caused by Dutch colonization and apartheid. You have no moral right to condemn black Africans throwing off an inhumane, colonial oppression, or to boo-hoo-hoo the inherent post-colonial chaos that has ensued. <br />
Your comments must be similar to those of the peoples of the Greco/Roman civilizations who were overrun by the Old Frankish savages, from whom the Dutch Afrikaners descend, thus plunging Europe into the 800 years known as the Dark Ages. Your attitude makes about as much sense historically as the rest of the world holding you responsible for the brutish extinction of classical antiquity wrought by your 5th century, savage Dutch/Norse/Germanic forebears. <br />
400 years ago the Dutch grabbed as much of the African continent as you could get your hands on, and systematically enslaved and oppressed the inhabitants who'd never done you any harm. Now the chickens have come home to roost. Fair-minded and freedom loving people the world over thank God for Mohandas Gandhi in India, Rev. Martin Luther King, Jr. in the U.S. and Nelson Mandela in South Africa! </p>jesse commented on 'When a supposedly godly guru gets sick, what does this mean?'tag:typepad.com,2003:6a00d83451c0aa69e2019b0266747b970d2013-12-09T04:02:28Z2013-12-10T04:12:20ZjesseJune, In my opinion, one who commits certain acts would be more honorable to commit suicide or resign oneself to...<p>June,</p>
<p>In my opinion, one who commits certain acts would be more honorable to commit suicide or resign oneself to abject poverty.</p>
<p>Love sounds nice but the Aurelius in me can't accept it as more than a fantasy.</p>
<p>I actually treasure a certain amount of bitterness in myself nowadays. It leads to a skepticism that has improved some aspects of my life as i criticize myself as much as others or the world.</p>
<p>If it's not one prison it's another. Trapped in love may be just as bad as being trapped in cynicism or hate. I guess it depends on goals. </p>
<p>Thanks for replying,</p>
<p>Jesse</p>june schlebusch commented on 'When a supposedly godly guru gets sick, what does this mean?'tag:typepad.com,2003:6a00d83451c0aa69e2019b0265c19f970d2013-12-09T02:43:59Z2013-12-10T04:12:20Zjune schlebuschJesse you missed the comparation I was trying to make. I actually relate to your comments. Dec 5th about the...<p>Jesse you missed the comparation I was trying to make. I actually relate to your comments. Dec 5th about the throat and lies makes sense. But what Madiba said when he got out of prison was .... :If I remain angry and bitter I would still be in prison: Very profound don't you think. The farm murders you mentioned are actually much more than that and you don't even know about the other atrocaties, but I still want to come out with the belief that love and only love will matter in the end.</p>some_guy commented on 'When a supposedly godly guru gets sick, what does this mean?'tag:typepad.com,2003:6a00d83451c0aa69e2019b02608241970b2013-12-08T17:04:42Z2013-12-08T21:45:18Zsome_guyI think this all started after an initiation so there must've been some difficult karmas for the guru to take...<p>I think this all started after an initiation so there must've been some difficult karmas for the guru to take on for his disciples. They say Jesus died for his disciples' sins, I hope guru ji doesn't die for ours...</p>jesse commented on 'When a supposedly godly guru gets sick, what does this mean?'tag:typepad.com,2003:6a00d83451c0aa69e2019b025c8df9970c2013-12-08T11:20:17Z2013-12-08T21:45:19ZjesseBabaji is a business man. Nelson Mandela is directly responsible for turning much of a 1st world nation into a...<p>Babaji is a business man. </p>
<p>Nelson Mandela is directly responsible for turning much of a 1st world nation into a 3rd world slum and for murdering, by some estimates, nearly 80,000 innocent white farmers, many through the vicious act known as necklacing. </p>
<p><br />
He changed the world for the worse and i hope he meets Stalin in the hottest part of hell. Sorry you South Africans still believe in his holiness. </p>
<p>I guess media is all-powerful. <br />
</p>777 commented on 'When a supposedly godly guru gets sick, what does this mean?'tag:typepad.com,2003:6a00d83451c0aa69e2019b025c83f0970c2013-12-08T11:17:00Z2013-12-08T21:45:19Z777Well said June, Jesse You are relatively right High IQ s go for the fall The story of Lucifer with...<p>Well said June,</p>
<p>Jesse<br />
You are relatively right<br />
High IQ s go for the fall<br />
The story of Lucifer with his 9²² IQ and he still crabs his wounds</p>
<p>Humans have this Sound<br />
The 'weak' sweet sweet high frequency -bee-like tone<br />
each human of compassion can catch !</p>
<p>You do not even need initiation</p>
<p>Initiation / meditation is just for being able to handle ( let GO ) <br />
the phenomenon when it goes wild ( roaring )<br />
Without the force of the Oversee-er it is<br />
as if you received the key of Fukushima<br />
( before it explosed )</p>
<p>When overtones come and are added , when reverberations do the rythmic gong sound up to the thunder and the hurricane<br />
when you start crying because of the pureness of it<br />
compared with what you are/were ( the mind)<br />
just to be able to cope<br />
it's valuable to have the practise of dulling<br />
this ENEMY of it<br />
the usurper and the thief, THE RAPIST of decency, the ugly uglyness, the fitth of filths , , that is our mind</p>
<p>Let me fir the first time add a few scripoture lines</p>
<p>_________________________________________<br />
Adi Granth :</p>
<p>Countless the Unwise in black ignorance reel, . .<br />
Countless the usurpers and those that steel, . .<br />
Countless the Rulers who force their way, . . .<br />
countless the cut-throats whom violence sways, . .<br />
Countless the sinners whom sin engages, . .<br />
countless the liars who wander in Mazes, . .<br />
Countless the wretches , . . have filth as fill, . countless the slanderers, carrying loads of evil, This thinks Nanak, the lowliest of the lowly, . .<br />
Sacrifice I am unto Thee Oh Holy, . .<br />
______________________________________<br />
It's about the mind - the thing we presently think you are</p>
<p></p>
<p>the more you will appreciate the sound this ugly<br />
carbage can will fight <br />
It knows it's end is near</p>
<p>I asked our beautiful Maharaji why typing this here<br />
and not in a decent group<br />
but He just smiled .</p>
<p>You guys have spent more time being cynics on God than many say gurmukhis <br />
You should have better understanding that objectivity<br />
is the TOOL of that enemy</p>
<p>That the elixir and everything around is JUST FOR YOU<br />
and cannot put in words<br />
Therefore it seems insane at all times<br />
and it is for the mind</p>
<p>Hafiz, Rumi Bullah, Mirabai, Kabir, Nanak always insane</p>
<p>I gave the advise to Tucson<br />
It works for the compassionates<br />
not for the killers and torturers</p>
<p>This Sound is your Soul</p>
<p>After capturing you don't have to die because you saw long before<br />
that the body is just a temporary cover up<br />
and we are integrated in the Love_stream</p>
<p>I tried to say the best way I could<br />
perhaps the bad english may help to read between the words</p>
<p>Terrific are the RSSB initiations and its SatGurus<br />
in a way also subjectif<br />
They care so much for their disciples -you couldn't believe it</p>
<p>777</p>
<p><br />
</p>june schlebusch commented on 'When a supposedly godly guru gets sick, what does this mean?'tag:typepad.com,2003:6a00d83451c0aa69e2019b025aacb9970d2013-12-08T07:23:41Z2013-12-08T21:45:19Zjune schlebuschWow Jesse and 777! Good comments! Im somewhere in between the two of you. We here in SA think Nelson...<p>Wow Jesse and 777! Good comments! Im somewhere in between the two of you. We here in SA think Nelson Mandela changed the whole world. But in the final conclusion, for me... To quote Maharagi "Love and Love Alone counts in the Court OF The Lord" Im a little mad myself.</p>Jesse commented on 'When a supposedly godly guru gets sick, what does this mean?'tag:typepad.com,2003:6a00d83451c0aa69e2019b0255853a970c2013-12-08T01:16:28Z2013-12-08T21:45:19ZJesse777, If you're happy and healthy, then more power to you. Be well, Jesse<p>777,</p>
<p>If you're happy and healthy, then more power to you.</p>
<p>Be well,</p>
<p>Jesse</p>777 commented on 'When a supposedly godly guru gets sick, what does this mean?'tag:typepad.com,2003:6a00d83451c0aa69e2019b0251883a970b2013-12-07T19:04:42Z2013-12-07T19:29:38Z777Jesse Yes : Love has an insane aspect. Kind of inversed goose bumps :) Keep calm It's just subjective except...<p>Jesse</p>
<p>Yes : Love has an insane aspect.</p>
<p>Kind of inversed goose bumps :)<br />
Keep calm<br />
It's just subjective except<br />
the 777+vivaldi comment<br />
of months ago<br />
That's 1000% objective</p>
<p><br />
777</p>
<p>-<br />
</p>jesse commented on 'When a supposedly godly guru gets sick, what does this mean?'tag:typepad.com,2003:6a00d83451c0aa69e2019b02500d37970c2013-12-07T17:48:30Z2013-12-07T19:29:39ZjesseSkeptic I don't recall that story, but i can remember being in Delhi and hearing about a bus full of...<p>Skeptic</p>
<p>I don't recall that story, but i can remember being in Delhi and hearing about a bus full of satsangis on their way to chattarpur, and the bus drove off a cliff killing all who were in it.</p>
<p>I guess all the GOOD satsangis know when to be in the right place at the right time.</p>jesse commented on 'When a supposedly godly guru gets sick, what does this mean?'tag:typepad.com,2003:6a00d83451c0aa69e2019b0250e29c970d2013-12-07T17:39:48Z2013-12-07T19:29:39Zjesse777, Everything that you write creeps me out. It's insanity. Like if Hafiz had an IQ of 80. More crazy...<p>777,</p>
<p>Everything that you write creeps me out.</p>
<p>It's insanity. Like if Hafiz had an IQ of 80. More crazy than 'spiritual.'</p>
<p>Jesse</p>Skeptic commented on 'When a supposedly godly guru gets sick, what does this mean?'tag:typepad.com,2003:6a00d83451c0aa69e2019b024f34e5970b2013-12-07T15:52:20Z2013-12-07T19:29:39ZSkepticBrian, thanks for linking back to the November post. I enjoyed many of the comments as well. I was never...<p>Brian, thanks for linking back to the November post. I enjoyed many of the comments as well. I was never a Satsangee but had an inside view because of particular company I kept for close to 20 years. There is one mystery that perhaps you or one of your skeptic readers can explain away for me. </p>
<p>In 2000 we were in Thailand and we heard that Baba Ji was building a centre in Phuket. We were perplexed because Phuket is a small tourist destination and to our knowledge, unlike Bangkok, did not have many resident satsangees. Why there we asked ourseves?</p>
<p>Then came the 2004 tsunami hitting Phuket on boxing day when many tourists from all over the world would be staying in resorts on the beach. Magically though it occurred during satsang when satsangees vacationing in Phuket from all the world were safely at the center which was built well out of harms way. </p>
<p>Does anyone reading this blog know more about this? Perhaps I have some facts wrong, which having them put straight could alleviate one last piece of nagging magical sant mat mystery for me.</p>
<p>Most appreciated.</p>777 commented on 'When a supposedly godly guru gets sick, what does this mean?'tag:typepad.com,2003:6a00d83451c0aa69e2019b024aff9e970b2013-12-07T10:27:23Z2013-12-07T19:29:39Z777- We are all GOD Nothing that's matter is not God Believing our not ; when God exists He must...<p>-<br />
We are all GOD</p>
<p>Nothing that's matter is not God</p>
<p>Believing our not ; when God exists He must be Love<br />
A SatGuru is/contains just the 'maximum' of that Love</p>
<p><br />
Like a c-130 cargo plane full of food in the Philipines</p>
<p>The plane is just a plane</p>
<p>My personal intuition is <br />
that Gurinder s 'karma' <br />
changed world events !</p>
<p>777</p>
<p>-</p>