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The ex-satsangi writer was lucky to get de-programmed so quickly after just 7 or 8 years of involvement with RSSB. It took me a few decades from the date of my first satsang in the summer of 1968 to wise-up. So, hats off to him.

He wrote:

"One way or another, I ended up in the Silverlake area of Los Angeles at the apartment of a somewhat dour, but not unlikable, woman named Mary Blakemore at a local "satsang."

My first encounter with RSSB and my first satsang was given by Mary Blakemore. I was invited to go by a friend. It was in the L.A. area for sure but I don't remember if it was a Silverlake apartment. She had a certain charisma and the teachings captivated my imagination rather than my reason. I purchased a copy of "Sar Bachan", sort of the bible of Sant Mat, at least the RSSB version of it.

After the Satsang we went to a vegetarian restaurant called H.E.L.P. which is now long gone but it was the hip veg restaurant in L.A. for a long time. I had steamed vegetables with a scoop of millet topped with chia seeds. I was sold that night in the summer of '68. The veg diet and the teachings just seemed right to me.

They say that once you form an emotional bond with a house when house-hunting, usually formed within the first few minutes of seeing it, you will rationalize away any negatives and buy it. That was how it was with me and Sant Mat.

The writer said he had a revelation after a number of years and experienced Sant Mat as "pure evil". I actually had that in the very beginning while reading Sar Bachan and some of the passages in it. But I had already bought the house and pushed those feelings, doubts and intuitions out of my mind. I wanted it to be real and true. So, I made it that way...for decades.

I heard Mary Blakemore developed her own following and moved away from L.A. to New Jersey or someplace and had her own little Sant Mat splinter group.

I actually ended up working at HELP for a while making sandwiches, but I wasn't fast enough (I sweated the details) so I was made dishwasher. There was no pleasing the very intense owner, Warren Stagg, and I flew the coop. The kitchen was pretty filthy and I wouldn't eat there after seeing what went on behind the swinging kitchen doors.

Your Ex-Satsangi came in at the right moment (???)

He said :!
""Standing in my living room, I felt an overwhelming wave of evil""

Funny , . that I just related to the same, 2 days ago
my phrase about what Swami Ji writes on page 302 and how
I also expirienced this blackness :
that I could -(the Mind could)-
easily and under the right stalin circumstances
do
everything devilish, we find everywhere described in history books . . . and much more !

This the catholic mystics from old said "the" dark night of the Soul"
this is perhaps unavoidable, . . anyway in my case , having done mass-murder
and remembering that

and I do not know for others
(I believe there are also many angels )
but
this is my advise :

If such deep awareness comes
and rivers of tears come also , because of it

DON'T STOP MEDITATION BECAUSE OF IT
( yes He just was standing in the room - but med is not only while sitting )
Go to the bottom, . . or better
go to where the Guide -out of necessity- brings you for a relatively short time
and I hesitate to say it in this group
do e your 5 swords - They are All Excaliburs.

The trampoline will after this experience bring you to heights you never dreamed they were possible

stopping the black
one also blocks the white

and more : you might live the rest of your life in fear of the devil you saw , next blaming the wrong one
and miss totally the purpose of this life

Try it again, . . stop name calling here
and BELIEVE IT

You are initiated

Most Satsangis don't want to be reborn
perhaps it's also the wish of most ex-satsangis
( if EX was possible )

That correspondant was really far already,
it happens INSIDE the first crooked tunnel


May karmas this time be more in line :)

PS
There a a giant grand necessaty for this 'dark night' to happen before you
can't cross the eye of the needle
and
Realisations coming, experiences that a satsangi will dive in are so enormous

and go so together together with a majestic feelings
, yet if one deconnects a nano-second the link with the Guide, The Satguru
that
the mind seeing you comming back from meditations
starts nagging you with the thought of being God,
and seduce you to start your own RS group,
blocking you and what you ever collected it vanished to pseudo disci
ples

If not those black experiences would occur beforhand
and you know for sure
you really are and were the Lowest scum
and filth of the earth

you have no possibity to tell the mind that you are not God
at least : that nothing of what IT ever established
has any value as compared with the vibrations
of the Shabad

I hope I was clear with my bad english
and avoided sciptures you are all allergic to

Perhaps my presence is for this writer, perhaps for Brian, perhaps for Gaz to tell his parents
perhaps only One reader

These Radha Soami Masters
are collosal

They and other Masters of the Sound are the meaning, the purpose of the universes

If there was only One per Galaxy
God had a Good time

Cheers again

Question :

I start to believe after only few weeks on this blog
that most writers are Not satsangis

If "initiated" by a pseudo saint
without any power
any negative result is possible

even if they gave the right words
there ios nothing
and one is victim of fraud

Before the eye of the needle
before the third Eye crooked tunnel,
way before entering
there is a profound silence

It's the place where the bible says God placed some cherubines
to keep us out
Symbolic talk it is around some perfect truth like in
the Bardo Todol

The Boddisatwas are our own desires

Yogis, priests and all kind of "practicioners"
might have approached that silence
or have heard of it
and they claim : "God is Silence"

and next start a spiritual business, . . of their own

The USA is a fruitful ground with classifieds in magazines :
"Be a millionair, start your own church in 3 months"


777, you consistently creep me out, brother!

Although I never had fireworks in Sant Mat meditation, after a meditation in the middle of the night (eg. 3 - 5am), I would go back to sleep and often experience some awesome lucid dreams, including those that might be considered 'out of body' experiences (although I never verified whether they were any more than just cool dreams, and I suspect that's what they were).

I've done some mindfulness meditation at about the same time, but without the lucid dreams.

Could it be that concentrative meditation (as opposed to observational meditation) enhances dream lucidity ? Who knows.

777
I refuse to accept that humans are categorized whether they are satsangis or not.
Moreover you think that there are Saints and Pseudo Saints.
It is pure romance to think that there are humans who are saints.
There are no saints at all. It’s fiction. It’s business.
You are believing in fairy tales.
And – to use your own words – you are a victim of fraud.

It’s your brain which does all these stories. Your experiences are pure imagination. It’s fact that the brain is able to produce hallucinations. Step out of your bubble and have a look!

Thank You Sceptic

Tony,
Have you ever seen a diamond
that is - a appearance of a say a 3 dimensional kind of 'object'

not as described a flash - although they come flashy but not with the random of a flash
but yes a "suddenly" appearance

but more stable

stable that is that although it's half a second at the start,
the observer sees an enless clarity in the thing
and you have even time to do some study about it


Of course these phenomenae are different per person
but my wife and I had that once in a while at the start
and my wife saw immediately Sawan Singh in it
who 'saved' her at her raping incident in 1947 in now Pakistan

I said diamond s because of the extreme clearness
as if the resolution is a billino x a billion
although it's analogue, no pixels :)
and it has volume

It was the beginning on the light side

like the extreme light at the end of the tunnel

For satsangis
itr is what the Bardo Todol says exactly in the middle of the book


ps
On a forum like this , it would be nice if Charan-Gurinder initiated writers would start with: #


Beam me Up Scotty

Tony , in my case but opposed to the forum-tenure
the strenth, the Power is in those words - 24/7

and in the person who gave them
so
from who do you have them?

Brian, maybe you should start a blog about the Sant Mat religion because there are a lot of disciples and ex-disciples who need to vent, but most of what they say is lost on the unititiated. Church of the Churchless should be non-denominational.

I can't speak for anybody else but in my personal experience; after all my reading and praying and meditation (maybe not the sufficient amount according to some and I agree somewhat);all I can say is...I have not reached any closer to the ideals I once had as a young person, my fantasies were there to be broken; I dreamt up some idyllic scenario where I have a soul which can be romanced; I felt more love and longing in my lonely frustration than I did in the company of a thousand satsangi's; in spite of whatever love and longing I felt I am none the wiser, not even half the man I feel I should be in terms of spiritual development. Perhaps this is my purpose. I could play my role on this Earth cheerfully but then I would not be doing it any service as the cynic I have been born to play. A cynic that secretly hopes to be wrong everyday. Goodnight all

You can't die anymore, no joke.
Religion is dead.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gzlNoyCUkAM

the9thgate
that is a beautiful name
i would say : the highest
if there was any highest :)

777
7.77@mail.com

Brian, hope you will post this, a bit off topic but as a Charan initiate, this is now where I am at...

to the9thGate - I think, or maybe I should say I feel, that you will enjoy this movie... taking back your power...

THE COSMIC GIGGLE (full film) (1:03:54)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3lhOX1aY5DE

A documentary film that explores the human energy field’s dynamic relationship with our environment…

"The Cosmic Giggle is a randomly roving zone of synchronicity and statistical anomaly.

Should you be caught up in it, it will turn reality on its head.

It is objective and subjective, simultaneously “really there” and yet somehow sustained by imagination and expectation."

Quote: Terence McKenna

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